Open Bar: Arguments About Turtles, All the Way Down

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

Chilling post work-apocalypse with friends. Tonight they are showing me a thing called 'Cowboy Bebop'. We do this weekly to help me boot up some of the popular culture.

Cue the earworm theme song.

At least it's an instrumental. I always feel more intelligent when I have instrumentals stuck in my brain.

[Roly Poly Oly-Garch]

So today I got an email from my former sister-in-law informing me that my ex-husband died a few days ago.

Oh wow, Nigel...that's...yeah. Tricky.

I still spend a lot of time around the old hood if you want to get a pitcher and talk about foosball, or anything.

[The Wizard Joseph]

I'm OK... it's a little weird, but I'm OK. The weird thing is that a friend of mine mentioned him just the other day, and I said "I have a feeling he's dead" and, well, now he is.

So weird. I'll probably be processing a lot of stuff over the next couple weeks. I married him very young and he was not a good man to be married to.

Very sorry to hear this.  As to the intuition, I've seen weirder. I don't pretend to understand everything, but have pretty much written off secular materialism.

Hang in there, I've lost people close to me and it always brings up stuff.

[The Wizard Joseph]

Chilling post work-apocalypse with friends. Tonight they are showing me a thing called 'Cowboy Bebop'. We do this weekly to help me boot up some of the popular culture.

Cue the earworm theme song.

At least it's an instrumental. I always feel more intelligent when I have instrumentals stuck in my brain.

We saw the movie and the score was amazing! The whole thing was a wonderful work of art. There's a series too I'm told... may just have to acquire it.

[Doktor Howl]

Finally, a half hour to get scrubbed down and internet access.

Then the horror begins again.  I love LA.  It makes me feel dirty.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

So today I got an email from my former sister-in-law informing me that my ex-husband died a few days ago.

Oh wow, Nigel...that's...yeah. Tricky.

I still spend a lot of time around the old hood if you want to get a pitcher and talk about foosball, or anything.

I'd like that. Probably not this week, but almost certainly after the memorial.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I'm OK... it's a little weird, but I'm OK. The weird thing is that a friend of mine mentioned him just the other day, and I said "I have a feeling he's dead" and, well, now he is.

So weird. I'll probably be processing a lot of stuff over the next couple weeks. I married him very young and he was not a good man to be married to.

Very sorry to hear this.  As to the intuition, I've seen weirder. I don't pretend to understand everything, but have pretty much written off secular materialism.

Hang in there, I've lost people close to me and it always brings up stuff.

I'm just kind of sad for him right now. I just got off the phone with his sister and it just sounds like after we split up he was in and out of rehab. Last time I saw him was ten years ago and since then it sounds like he spent a couple of years homeless, was finally clean again (for two years) but his health was just terribly degraded and he ended up dying of a garden-variety stomach bug.

The rational part of me is saying "thank god you got out before he took you down with him", and the irrational part of me is saying "I wonder if things would have been different if I'd stayed?"

[Doktor Howl]

Oh, shit, Nigel...I have no idea what to say.   

[Doktor Howl]

I'm OK... it's a little weird, but I'm OK. The weird thing is that a friend of mine mentioned him just the other day, and I said "I have a feeling he's dead" and, well, now he is.

So weird. I'll probably be processing a lot of stuff over the next couple weeks. I married him very young and he was not a good man to be married to.

Very sorry to hear this.  As to the intuition, I've seen weirder. I don't pretend to understand everything, but have pretty much written off secular materialism.

Hang in there, I've lost people close to me and it always brings up stuff.

I'm just kind of sad for him right now. I just got off the phone with his sister and it just sounds like after we split up he was in and out of rehab. Last time I saw him was ten years ago and since then it sounds like he spent a couple of years homeless, was finally clean again (for two years) but his health was just terribly degraded and he ended up dying of a garden-variety stomach bug.

The rational part of me is saying "thank god you got out before he took you down with him", and the irrational part of me is saying "I wonder if things would have been different if I'd stayed?"

I think the rational part of you is talking sense.  Of course, the only real question for me would be "did you still love him when you left?"

If not, then maybe it's just a survivor guilt thing.

[Eater of Clowns]

Awful. Your rational and irrational thoughts are both right and both, of course, equally useless. Sorry, Nigel. 

[Doktor Howl]

I had an ex smash herself on a motorcycle.  I felt bad about it all for a few days.  Then I realized that I didn't feel anything for her when she was alive (anymore), so why would I be overly upset when she died (anymore, that is, than hearing about anyone's death).

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Oh, shit, Nigel...I have no idea what to say.   

Thanks, man.

[Doktor Howl]

Oh, shit, Nigel...I have no idea what to say.   

Thanks, man.

Then I fucked it up by saying something anyway.  My apologies, I am half-drunk and all the way stupid.  I have a comatose chemist on my hands and it's Tim's turn to sleep.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

I no longer loved him and knew I couldn't stay with him, but I cared about him. Sometimes I hated him (he did some pretty fucked up things, to me and to other people). I actually tried to find him for several years, but eventually gave up.

[Doktor Howl]

I no longer loved him and knew I couldn't stay with him, but I cared about him. Sometimes I hated him (he did some pretty fucked up things, to me and to other people). I actually tried to find him for several years, but eventually gave up.

Sometimes mission failure is a success.

Trust the doktor on this one.