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Re: The Death of the Vampire Trope
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2014, 12:31:54 am »
Here's the link for "Wish you were Here" far and away the best written Crossed arc, (Save for Garth Ennis's bit at the launch of "Badlands") Enjoy.
http://www.crossedcomic.com/category/chapters/
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Re: The Death of the Vampire Trope
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2014, 09:56:15 am »
I read Garth Ennis's run and it was disgusting, unenjoyable though ended on funny note I didn't think I'd read any more of it.

I read a bit of Wish you were here (Si Spurrier wrote it I think) and I found myself oddly bored (maybe I was expecting the same level of revulsion as Ennis's run). Not sure which is worse, being physically sickened by what your reading or bored, either way, crossed definitely isn't a comic for me.
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Re: The Death of the Vampire Trope
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2014, 10:36:03 am »
I've had a soft spot for Crossed since the first Ennis run and the "Salt!" scene. There's some seriously good writing in there, particularly on WYWH but many will be unwilling to deal with the overt sexdeathkill that is a fairly constant feature. That's one of the reasons WYWH worked quite well as their appearances and interactions was relatively limited and used fairly well. There's a good chunk of content which is just murder porn though and it's certainly one of these things where the quality varies vastly from writer to writer.

That said though, if you don't want to fish through murderporn for a decent story, I couldn't really blame you. There's plenty of good tales that don't rely on fuckkillfuck to get their horror across.

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Re: The Death of the Vampire Trope
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2014, 09:19:09 pm »
The dolphin thing was real funny, then I'm intrigued to know what the Cross(Ed) represents.  Kind of wanted to breeze through some stuff and probably would prefer hardcopy to slow refresh-rates.  Good incentive, still my attitude kind of reflects the narrator's indifference, less of that framing would work better for me.
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Re: The Death of the Vampire Trope
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2014, 05:53:24 pm »
I've had a soft spot for Crossed since the first Ennis run and the "Salt!" scene.
Oh, the"Salt scene". It's writing like this that makes me love Garth Ennis so much.

 
The dolphin thing was real funny, then I'm intrigued to know what the Cross(Ed) represents.  Kind of wanted to breeze through some stuff and probably would prefer hardcopy to slow refresh-rates
WYWH is all taken from the perspective of Shaky's diary. The Crossed are humanity, after some time released engineered plague got loose from a Lab. Garth Ennis's arc "Bloodlines" covers it, (although I haven't read it yet) WYWH has been released as 3 TPBs. They're all up on Pirate Bay for free if you wanted to download them. Seeing as they were all a free webcomic anyway, there shouldn't be too much of a conscience twinge. 

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NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul"


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
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Re: The Death of the Vampire Trope
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2014, 11:13:51 pm »
Just finished wish you were here, probably gonna buy some of the other volumes.  Anyone have any suggestions on which ones are best or are they all pretty good?

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Re: The Death of the Vampire Trope
« Reply #36 on: August 16, 2014, 03:37:59 pm »
I've had a soft spot for Crossed since the first Ennis run and the "Salt!" scene.
Oh, the"Salt scene". It's writing like this that makes me love Garth Ennis so much.

 
The dolphin thing was real funny, then I'm intrigued to know what the Cross(Ed) represents.  Kind of wanted to breeze through some stuff and probably would prefer hardcopy to slow refresh-rates
WYWH is all taken from the perspective of Shaky's diary. The Crossed are humanity, after some time released engineered plague got loose from a Lab. Garth Ennis's arc "Bloodlines" covers it, (although I haven't read it yet) WYWH has been released as 3 TPBs. They're all up on Pirate Bay for free if you wanted to download them. Seeing as they were all a free webcomic anyway, there shouldn't be too much of a conscience twinge. 



Thank you.  Not meaning to whinge about it here.  I actually liked the lay-out, just a little indisposed at the moment for totally unrelated space/time reasons. :)
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Re: The Death of the Vampire Trope
« Reply #37 on: August 16, 2014, 05:49:29 pm »
Just finished wish you were here, probably gonna buy some of the other volumes.  Anyone have any suggestions on which ones are best or are they all pretty good?

Quality varies drastically depending on the author, the art is pretty consistent.

I'd suggest the original Ennis run (Horsecock and the "salt" scenes set the tone excellently. The WYWH run is also up there and I'd strongly suggest reading it in order or you'll spoil huge chunks for yourself by accident.

Beyond that, It's pretty open. The various Ennis runs in "Badlands" are worth a look(first 3 and 50-56 i believe, one or two others as well.), but by and large the all function as standalone peices so it's a fair bit of pot luck. There's some that are up there with Ennis/Spurier in quality but to be blunt, not many.

Badbeast - Lay your hands on the bloodlines run ASAP. It's right up your proverbial. 
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Re: The Death of the Vampire Trope
« Reply #38 on: August 16, 2014, 08:20:36 pm »


Badbeast - Lay your hands on the bloodlines run ASAP. It's right up your proverbial. 
Downloading them as I type this. 
"We need a plane for Bombing, Strafing, Assault and Battery, Interception, Ground Support, and Reconnaisance,
NOT JUST A "FAIR WEATHER FIGHTER"!

"I kinda like him. It's like he sees inside my soul"


Whoever puts their hand on me to govern me, is a usurper, and a tyrant, and I declare them my enemy!

"And when the clouds obscure the moon, and normal service is resumed. It wont. Mean. A. Thing"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpkCJDYxH-4