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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Last post by The Johnny on Today at 06:07:02 am »

Update: I watched an hour of the debate till i couldnt bear it anymore, and i still stand by my point.
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Literate Chaotic / Re: Dent-ALL
« Last post by The Wizard Joseph on Today at 03:33:40 am »
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Awake) early K's away  = no chess today peace talks  ::

( LAUGHTER: let me know : mental block : .. well K tell Abu
The talks with the Arab at Safeway (checking) 28@7PM

Tripoli to Aburi ? Was considered top notch, on rent day,
( I ) ' poise it will be K's way but Android has bet
Williams,  she V lost in the 1st round to :" Schmiedlova ":

It truly is difficult for me to say that I have a good idea .
I will try to grab a $creen$hot of Frames from the game
IF I can find the video. My Search  methods are not so
Great, and Android is not much better for gaming (.) ??

6:54@Tower 4 corrections (it is cool in here ) window was
left open. @ :" Schmiedlova ":   ?? HERE |Mental BlockAid:
Diego(R U there [of course connected \oFF (HELP FIND THAT)
[yeah @ 7:57 hold ON] }7:27{ K present & counting. 7:43

Hey hirley0! Glad to see your processors are still running cool as a liquid nitro Cray. I've always been hit or miss at best understanding you at first read, but you speak of a game?
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It occurs to me that watching the debate with the sound muted might have actually made it more informative (not to mention palatable).  I.e, just watching the candidates' body language and facial expressions.  Much of the audio was just low-quality noise.

I feel sorry for anyone who has to caption that.

one of the things that really kills me about these debates is that people think shit like body language and "coming off as alpha" actually matters

like, we all know on some level that Trump talking over Biden for 90 minutes doesn't actually mean anything.
But we accept that people are persuaded by arbitrary, symbolic bullshit, so when we discuss the debate, we elevate the importance of "looking good on camera"
[...]

It really matters a lot, but not in a direct face value sense, rather in the "what is this guy's communication strategy" sense.

Trump having no composure and acting like the psychotic wanna-be-alpha animal that he is, shows exactly how he acts all the time in practically every setting. At least Biden has some ammount of self-awareness when there isnt some female to sniff below the radius of social distancing measures.

Having said that, the goalposts of the debate mean nothing, what trascends is their respective aesthetics and emotional message, which brings us back to the original point, in which watching the debate without audio might be more informative than hearing it.

The SCREENCAP value alone could be astronomical. I might just do this.
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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Last post by The Johnny on Today at 12:30:02 am »
It occurs to me that watching the debate with the sound muted might have actually made it more informative (not to mention palatable).  I.e, just watching the candidates' body language and facial expressions.  Much of the audio was just low-quality noise.

I feel sorry for anyone who has to caption that.

one of the things that really kills me about these debates is that people think shit like body language and "coming off as alpha" actually matters

like, we all know on some level that Trump talking over Biden for 90 minutes doesn't actually mean anything.
But we accept that people are persuaded by arbitrary, symbolic bullshit, so when we discuss the debate, we elevate the importance of "looking good on camera"
[...]

It really matters a lot, but not in a direct face value sense, rather in the "what is this guy's communication strategy" sense.

Trump having no composure and acting like the psychotic wanna-be-alpha animal that he is, shows exactly how he acts all the time in practically every setting. At least Biden has some ammount of self-awareness when there isnt some female to sniff below the radius of social distancing measures.

Having said that, the goalposts of the debate mean nothing, what trascends is their respective aesthetics and emotional message, which brings us back to the original point, in which watching the debate without audio might be more informative than hearing it.
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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Last post by Cain on Yesterday at 05:49:44 pm »
Yeah, the body language was interesting. Biden clearly decided early on that debating Trump was a fool's errand, and instead decided to talk with the audience directly.
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It occurs to me that watching the debate with the sound muted might have actually made it more informative (not to mention palatable).  I.e, just watching the candidates' body language and facial expressions.  Much of the audio was just low-quality noise.

I feel sorry for anyone who has to caption that.

one of the things that really kills me about these debates is that people think shit like body language and "coming off as alpha" actually matters
Well, I'm not claiming that.  Leaving the audio off would have been less hard on my nerves, and if I treat the whole debacle as a character study, watching them without the distraction of the background noise would have given me a different perspective.  How the candidates felt the debate was proceeding might have been more interesting than what they were actually saying.

The images I recall most clearly are:

Biden addressing the camera directly.
Biden looking down and laughing.
Trump looking sideways, with a belligerent and idiotic expression on his face (he makes it very easy for news publishers to select unflattering pictures).

Is any of that important to the American public?  I dunno.  I find it interesting, though.

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like, we all know on some level that Trump talking over Biden for 90 minutes doesn't actually mean anything.
I was slightly surprised at Trump's apparent inability to stay on topic, or adhere to anything resembling normal debating etiquette.  I guess he's always been like that, but I didn't know he'd gotten that much worse.
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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Curbside Pickup Only
« Last post by Trivial on Yesterday at 04:56:53 pm »
Actual work discussion:
"We should take the debate and feed it to the AI captioner.  I want to see what it spits out. Maybe we can use it as a stress test"
"Sure if you want to depress it"
"Or if you want the server to explode"
"Maybe it'll become sentient and destroy everything?"
"I'm not into making skynet"
"Eh, we deserve it"
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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Last post by Cramulus on Yesterday at 04:46:49 pm »
But maybe we are past the days when debates have winners and losers.

To be quite honest, I'm not sure I can remember the last time a debate changed my mind about a candidate, outside of one or two primaries.

sure - I've never been undecided by the time a debate happens
but I do remember many debates where there was a consensus about who won or lost

now, the construction of reality is more explicit - each outlet reports their preferred interpretation


It occurs to me that watching the debate with the sound muted might have actually made it more informative (not to mention palatable).  I.e, just watching the candidates' body language and facial expressions.  Much of the audio was just low-quality noise.

I feel sorry for anyone who has to caption that.

one of the things that really kills me about these debates is that people think shit like body language and "coming off as alpha" actually matters


like, we all know on some level that Trump talking over Biden for 90 minutes doesn't actually mean anything.
But we accept that people are persuaded by arbitrary, symbolic bullshit, so when we discuss the debate, we elevate the importance of "looking good on camera"


I just thinking back to Jon Stewart on Crossfire, when he talked about how the presidental election is a process, and it's not about selecting the best president, its about selecting the guy who is best at that process.
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It occurs to me that watching the debate with the sound muted might have actually made it more informative (not to mention palatable).  I.e, just watching the candidates' body language and facial expressions.  Much of the audio was just low-quality noise.

I feel sorry for anyone who has to caption that.
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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Last post by LMNO on Yesterday at 04:00:40 pm »
But maybe we are past the days when debates have winners and losers.

To be quite honest, I'm not sure I can remember the last time a debate changed my mind about a candidate, outside of one or two primaries.
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