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Started by Anna Mae Bollocks, August 11, 2012, 08:11:52 PM

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A lot of our products are metric, people just ignore it. A liter of hootch is still called a "fifth" by most people.
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Cain

Quote from: Dear Departed Uncle Nigel on August 15, 2012, 01:30:31 AM
Man, people need to learn about shades of gray.

There are 50 of them.  And it means if you agree to be the sex-slave of a corporate billionaire, you will be treated very well, barring acts of sadism and buttplugs.

Juana

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It also gives me a reason to link to this http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2012/07/fifty-shades-of-capitalism-pain-and-bondage-in-the-american-workplace.html

QuoteQuivering with trepidation, Anastasia signs a contract to become Christian's submissive sex partner. Reeled in by his fantastic wealth, panty-sopping charm, and less-than-convincing promise that the exchange will be to her ultimate benefit, she surrenders herself to his arbitrary rules on what to eat, what to wear, and above all, how to please him sexually. Which frequently involves getting handcuffed and spanked. "Discipline," as Christian likes to say.

Quoting industrial tycoon Andrew Carnegie, Christian justifies his proclivities like an acolyte of Randian Superman ideology: "A man who acquires the ability to take possession of his own mind may take possession of anything else to which he is justly entitled." (Rand's worship of the Superman obliged to nothing but his intellect is well-known and imbued with dark passions; she once expressed her admiration for a child murderer's credo, "What is good for me is right," as "the best and strongest expression of a real man's psychology I have heard" in a 1928 diary.)

Christian Grey, our kinky CEO, started his literary life as a vampire when Erika Leonard, the woman behind the pseudonym "E.L. James," published the first version of her novel episodically on a Twilight fan site, basing the story on the relationship between Stephenie Meyers' love couple Edward Cullen and Bella Swan. It was later reworked and released in its current form. Gone was Edward the vampire, replaced by Christian the corporate slave-master.

Drunk on the intoxicants of wealth and power, Fifty Shades of Grey hints at a sinister cultural shift that is unfolding in its pages before our eyes. The innocent Anastasias will no longer merely have their lifeblood slowly drained by capitalist predators. They're going to be whipped, humiliated and forced to wear a butt-plug. The vampire in the night has given way to the dominating overlord of a hierarchical, sadomasochistic world in which everybody without money is a helpless submissive.

Welcome to late-stage capitalism.

QuoteAmericans are supposed to be people who love freedom above everything else. But where is the citizen less free than in the typical workplace? Workers are denied bathroom breaks. They cannot leave to care for a sick child. Downtime and vacations are a joke. Some – just ask who picked your tomatoes – have been reduced to slave-like conditions. In the current climate of more than three years of unemployment over 8 percent, the longest stretch since the Great Depression, the worker has little choice but to submit. And pretend to like it.

As Corey Robin, who no doubt inspired the above article notes:

QuoteOn pain of being fired, workers in most parts of the United States can be commanded to pee or forbidden to pee. They can be watched on camera by their boss while they pee. They can be forbidden to wear what they want, say what they want (and at what decibel), and associate with whom they want. They can be punished for doing or not doing any of these things—punished legally or illegally (as many as 1 in 17 workers who try to join a union is illegally fired or suspended). But what's remarkable is just how many of these punishments are legal, and even when they're illegal, how toothless the law can be. Outside the usual protections (against race and gender discrimination, for example), employees can be fired for good reasons, bad reasons, or no reason at all. They can be fired for donating a kidney to their boss (fired by the same boss, that is), refusing to have their person and effects searched, calling the boss a "cheapskate" in a personal letter, and more. They have few rights on the job—certainly none of the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, and Seventh Amendment liberties that constitute the bare minimum of a free society; thus, no free speech or assembly, no due process, no right to a fair hearing before a panel of their peers—and what rights they do have employers will fight tooth and nail to make sure aren't made known to them or will simply require them to waive as a condition of employment. Outside the prison or the military—which actually provide, at least on paper, some guarantee of due process—it's difficult to conceive of a less free institution for adults than the average workplace.

In addition to abridging freedoms on the job, employers abridge their employees' freedoms off the job. Employers invade employees' privacy, demanding that they hand over passwords to their Facebook accounts, and fire them for resisting such invasions. Employers secretly film their employees at home. Workers are fired for supporting the wrong political candidates ("work for John Kerry or work for me"), failing to donate to employer-approved candidates, challenging government officials, writing critiques of religion on their personal blogs (IBM instructs employees to "show proper consideration...for topics that may be considered objectionable or inflammatory—such as politics and religion"), carrying on extramarital affairs, participating in group sex at home, cross-dressing, and more. Workers are punished for smoking or drinking in the privacy of their own homes. (How many nanny states have tried that?) They can be fired for merely thinking about having an abortion, for reporting information that might have averted the Challenger disaster, for being raped by an estranged husband. Again, this is all legal in many states, and in the states where it is illegal, the laws are often weak.

Cain

Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 16, 2012, 01:20:51 PM

There seems to be a trend in schools teaching worthless subjects rather than critical thinking, life skills or how to be an empathic citizen that aims for social equality.

Gee, it seems that students are being taught how to be good little drones that follow orders for corporate interests.

NAH, i must be getting the crazies, for fucking real.

Well, the problem is, are schools meant to educate a student, or are they meant to prepare them for a life of work?  Most people say "both", but in practice it ends up being more the latter, and since the majority of work nowadays is corporate in nature....

In the UK, up until the age of 16, certain subjects are mandatory, and the school system is largely set up to teach these subjects.  Only from the start of AS levels onwards does the student get a say in their own education, picking subjects they want to study in order to get into University in order to study what they want.

However, of course, even at University there is a level of corporate influence.  While traditional subjects like Classics, Philosophy and Literature are still taught, subjects are increasingly reliant on outside funding for expensive research, such as scientific research or large population-based studies.  Often there will also be internship-based relationships between the University in question and those companies providing outside funding - internships which frequently pay nothing or next to nothing, in return for "work experience", it should be noted.

As the government has further slashed higher education funding over here, not only have tuition fees risen, so has the educational sector's reliance on the corporate sector.

Ironically, one of the places where corporate influence may be the least pervasive is in private education.  Because they rely on their students to turn a profit, they are less reliant on outside funding, and have a measure of freedom that is not always the case in other institutions.  They also frequently have longer hours and smaller classes than state schools, which can improve educational standards.

Cain

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 16, 2012, 09:25:02 PM
In UK we have a two tier education system. Comprehensive school is a factory that churns out proles. Then there's the ironically titled Public school which costs a lot of money and teaches societies chosen ones, how to best go about lording it over the unwashed masses. I don't know for sure but I have a sneaky suspicion that the "fact" that we are now a classless society is only taught in comprehensive schools.

Public schools, however, have to take on anyone who can pay their fees.  Private schools, on the other hand, are like public schools, only they do not, and so are much more selective.

There are also academies, which are schools which take funding from the state but do not have to follow the cirriculum or hiring standards of an actual school, and so can hire crazy preachers to teach that the world is flat off government funds, if they so wish.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Cain on August 17, 2012, 10:50:07 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 16, 2012, 09:25:02 PM
In UK we have a two tier education system. Comprehensive school is a factory that churns out proles. Then there's the ironically titled Public school which costs a lot of money and teaches societies chosen ones, how to best go about lording it over the unwashed masses. I don't know for sure but I have a sneaky suspicion that the "fact" that we are now a classless society is only taught in comprehensive schools.

Public schools, however, have to take on anyone who can pay their fees.  Private schools, on the other hand, are like public schools, only they do not, and so are much more selective.

There are also academies, which are schools which take funding from the state but do not have to follow the cirriculum or hiring standards of an actual school, and so can hire crazy preachers to teach that the world is flat off government funds, if they so wish.

I stand corrected - I thought private and public were the same deal :oops:

And, yeah, of course academies but, yknow, I meant real world :lol:

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Quote from: Cain on August 17, 2012, 10:48:04 AM
Well, the problem is, are schools meant to educate a student, or are they meant to prepare them for a life of work?  Most people say "both", but in practice it ends up being more the latter, and since the majority of work nowadays is corporate in nature....

In the UK, up until the age of 16, certain subjects are mandatory, and the school system is largely set up to teach these subjects.  Only from the start of AS levels onwards does the student get a say in their own education, picking subjects they want to study in order to get into University in order to study what they want.

However, of course, even at University there is a level of corporate influence.  While traditional subjects like Classics, Philosophy and Literature are still taught, subjects are increasingly reliant on outside funding for expensive research, such as scientific research or large population-based studies.  Often there will also be internship-based relationships between the University in question and those companies providing outside funding - internships which frequently pay nothing or next to nothing, in return for "work experience", it should be noted.

As the government has further slashed higher education funding over here, not only have tuition fees risen, so has the educational sector's reliance on the corporate sector.

Ironically, one of the places where corporate influence may be the least pervasive is in private education.  Because they rely on their students to turn a profit, they are less reliant on outside funding, and have a measure of freedom that is not always the case in other institutions.  They also frequently have longer hours and smaller classes than state schools, which can improve educational standards.

Well yes, the stated purpose of schooling tends to be "politically correct aligned" in its model to supposedly provide the tools for a better developtment of the person, being a responsible citizen, teaching humanist values and being socially useful -nevermind that ALL of these are contradictory objectives-, but any basic analysis of the curricula shows otherwise, which is, yes, aimed at being a "good employee". (and everyone here knows what "good" means)

The mandatory assignment of subjects is just a way of saying and teaching "this needs to be done/learned, i know its useless, but you have to do it" which will come to use for employers; i mean, whomever thinks teaching all this over-specialized knowledge is good or useful, must have been born in the Rennaissance and doesnt grasp how jobs and society work nowadays, which is under a scheme of specializations.

To go to my current university, i pay in tuition about.... $40 USD per year... the required "textbooks" are in reality just photocopies, which i must spend about $24 more USD... to me its a completely alien concept to have to pay for "public university", hell, for what americans pay in tuition i would go easily to the most expensive university in my country!

I mean, the threat is looming over Mexico over letting corporations control universities, but its not quite there, i mean, im a bit out of the loop because im in social sciences, but i think i would be able to notice. There exists the threat to create a standarized test for graduates that would be another requirement besides the university diploma, but it doesnt exist yet. But yes, slashing public education investment is indeed a global trend.

So in conclusion, the stated objectives are hypocritical, and the real objectives are corporate, but i think it shouldnt be that way, cause, you know, big money tends to corrupt critical thinking and knowledge and all that.
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P3nT4gR4m

Education is not something people do to you.

That's indoctrination.

Education is something you do to yourself.

That's fucking dangerous and they know it.

Which is why they teach you not to.

The sole purpose of state "education" is to cripple your learning faculty by flooding it with propaganda

The sole purpose of state education is to make you a fully functional but ignorant slave

I sensed this whilst I was at school

I learned it after I left

It's the only thing school taught me that I wouldn't have learned just as effectively if I hadn't been there.


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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 17, 2012, 11:58:50 AM
Education is not something people do to you.

That's indoctrination.

Education is something you do to yourself.

That's fucking dangerous and they know it.

Which is why they teach you not to.

The sole purpose of state "education" is to cripple your learning faculty by flooding it with propaganda

The sole purpose of state education is to make you a fully functional but ignorant slave

I sensed this whilst I was at school

I learned it after I left

It's the only thing school taught me that I wouldn't have learned just as effectively if I hadn't been there.

Yes; it's called "the hidden curriculum". The primary purpose of the education system (note that I did not say "schools" or "education") is to systemitize and indoctrinate the population. This is not necessarily a bad thing, but it is when the indoctrination reinforces a social structure which is not operating in its members best interest.
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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 17, 2012, 11:58:50 AM
Education is not something people do to you.

That's indoctrination.

Education is something you do to yourself.

That's fucking dangerous and they know it.

Which is why they teach you not to.

The sole purpose of state "education" is to cripple your learning faculty by flooding it with propaganda

The sole purpose of state education is to make you a fully functional but ignorant slave

I sensed this whilst I was at school

I learned it after I left

It's the only thing school taught me that I wouldn't have learned just as effectively if I hadn't been there.

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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on August 17, 2012, 11:58:50 AM
Education is not something people do to you.

That's indoctrination.

Education is something you do to yourself.

That's fucking dangerous and they know it.

Which is why they teach you not to.

The sole purpose of state "education" is to cripple your learning faculty by flooding it with propaganda

The sole purpose of state education is to make you a fully functional but ignorant slave

I sensed this whilst I was at school

I learned it after I left

It's the only thing school taught me that I wouldn't have learned just as effectively if I hadn't been there.

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I admit I might be biased, as someone who intends to teach and is from a long time of teachers, but I'm not liking what I see thus far.

Quote from: Joh'Nyx on August 17, 2012, 11:27:57 AM
To go to my current university, i pay in tuition about.... $40 USD per year... the required "textbooks" are in reality just photocopies, which i must spend about $24 more USD... to me its a completely alien concept to have to pay for "public university", hell, for what americans pay in tuition i would go easily to the most expensive university in my country!
I fucking haet you. I shell out almost $7000 a year in tuition with about $450 in books. Haet haet haet.
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Quote from: TEXAS FAIRIES FOR ALL YOU SPAGS on August 16, 2012, 10:53:06 PM
A lot of our products are metric, people just ignore it. A liter of hootch is still called a "fifth" by most people.

A liter is closer to a quart.  A fifth is roughly .750 liters, and is what most alcohol is sold in.
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