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#4666
Or Kill Me / Re: Elizabeth Bathory, where did you go
February 21, 2009, 03:58:48 PM
:asplode:

The ending blew me away. Well done.
#4667
 :lulz: That was pretty funny. Man, we were seething over this.
#4668
PD.com "Recent Unread Topics" is my homepage.

I always, always have it open in a tab when I have my browser open.




I have a problem. :sad:
#4669
Ossum.


Hey, LHX: My eco-green-recyclable-treefucker-savethewhales hippie school throws around the word "sustainability" like it's going out of style. Mind if I adapt this into flyer form?
#4671
IF I CAN'T EXTEND THE METAPHOR TO ACCOUNT FOR EVERY SINGLE FUCKING REAL-LIFE ASPECT OF IT, I'LL SHIT MY PANTS AND ALSO IT MEANS I'M SMARTER THAN ALL OF YOU FUCKS


Wow, I can see why DK does this; it's fun. I'm going to stop before I get addicted.
#4672
If you're going to use green to imply growth, that implies that the LEGO blocks themselves are growing, which totally doesn't happen. Your metaphor is mired in Cartesian BUTTSLOLism!
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Quote from: Enki-][ on February 18, 2009, 05:54:46 PM
Quote from: Cainad on February 18, 2009, 05:52:36 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 18, 2009, 05:47:08 PM
Why is it green?  It should be purple.  Obviously everyone's concept of LEGOs has them being purple, not green.  Come on!

Also, LEGO implies that you're going to spend ten minutes at a time digging through the box for that one piece you saw a billion times but can't find now that you actually need it.

WHY DOES YOUR METAPHOR NOT ACCOUNT FOR THIS? :argh!:

You mean that you have the entirety of the Principia booklet and the BIP booklet memorized?

:lulz:
#4673
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on February 18, 2009, 05:47:08 PM
Why is it green?  It should be purple.  Obviously everyone's concept of LEGOs has them being purple, not green.  Come on!

Also, LEGO implies that you're going to spend ten minutes at a time digging through the box for that one piece you saw a billion times but can't find now that you actually need it.

WHY DOES YOUR METAPHOR NOT ACCOUNT FOR THIS? :argh!:
#4674
Quote from: Dead Kennedy on February 18, 2009, 01:05:52 PM
So the Alt. BIP (that's yours, as it is chronologically later in development) is fighting it out with the RAW BIP in my head.  And the thing I keep noticing is that the use of a prison as a metaphor makes great sense in RAW BIP model, and very little in the Alt. BIP.

Your problem.

It's certainly not mine.
#4675
Quote from: Dead Kennedy on February 18, 2009, 06:13:10 AM
I'll bet money you can't find one.  That meets my definition of nobody.

http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=4486.msg165212#msg165212

Do never test the search function. It is wise and terrible.
#4676
Quote from: Dead Kennedy on February 18, 2009, 04:16:09 AM
Quote from: LMNO on February 18, 2009, 02:47:52 AMOk, how many people have misunderstood Plato's Cave because they "know about caves" rather than reading the text?

Nobody, but Plato's Cave doesn't challenge one's assumptions about caves.  It uses those assumptions to strengthen its own argument.  That's one of the reasons its such a famous metaphor.  It's very powerful.

:spittake:
#4677
Quote from: Dead Kennedy on February 17, 2009, 08:59:12 PM
Quote from: Cainad on February 17, 2009, 08:42:52 PM
Alright, I don't really care to read the last few pages, because I have a bone to pick.

The Black Iron Prison does NOT have Cartesian Dualism built into it. The mind and body are not separated into Prisoner (mind) and Prison Cell (body), because a huge component of the prison cell is the mind itself. I would personally go so far as to say that the mental component of the prison cell is the one many of us are most interested in.

You're so not actually listening to what I'm saying.

I know that the concept of the Alt. Black Iron Prison (the territory) is not Cartesian in nature.  The problem is that the metaphor of a prison and the metaphor of a prison cell both imply a prisoner, and thus introduce Cartesianism.

The Cartesianism isn't in the territory, it's in the map of the territory.

Sorry, who's not listening?

QuoteThe mind and body are not separated into Prisoner (mind) and Prison Cell (body), because a huge component of the prison cell is the mind itself.

Sure, there's a prisoner and a prison. However, they are NOT metaphors for mind and body, or at least not exclusively. The prisoner may be representative of the mind, but a major part of the prison itself is also representative of the mind.

Quote from: Dead Kennedy on February 17, 2009, 08:59:12 PM
QuoteFurthermore, it is very strongly implied that our personalities and interactions with the world around us depend heavily on how we are able to perceive the world though the bars. So it is pretty clear that the mind (soul, self, ego, whatever the fuck) is intrinsically connected to the physical body (which also forms part of the Cell), not a separate entity.

And the metaphor implies the exact opposite.

If you want to take the name of it literally, which is not how it's intended.

The actual metaphor, if you're willing to take it beyond the immediate assumption that Prisoner=Mind and Prison=Body, clearly suggests that our minds are directly tied to both physical and self-imposed psychological limits.
#4678
Alright, I don't really care to read the last few pages, because I have a bone to pick.

The Black Iron Prison does NOT have Cartesian Dualism built into it. The mind and body are not separated into Prisoner (mind) and Prison Cell (body), because a huge component of the prison cell is the mind itself. I would personally go so far as to say that the mental component of the prison cell is the one many of us are most interested in.

The beliefs and thought patterns we don't (or won't) question are as much a part of the cell as our physical limitations. The only difference is that we have a pretty strong say in whether or not we will allow those "bars" to exist, or what form they will take.

Furthermore, it is very strongly implied that our personalities and interactions with the world around us depend heavily on how we are able to perceive the world though the bars. So it is pretty clear that the mind (soul, self, ego, whatever the fuck) is intrinsically connected to the physical body (which also forms part of the Cell), not a separate entity.
#4679
Principia Discussion / Re: Discordia Prophetica
February 17, 2009, 08:25:25 PM
Quote- We are NOT making it available electronically.

FAIL :argh!:

I guess someone will just have to buy it and upload scans the old-fashioned way.
#4680
INSTANT CLASSIC