Randomness I guess. Been awhile since I've tried to write it down been 10 years since I've had to use thermoscience. Things like crystals don't form against entopy but because of it. They're seeking the lowest energy state and it's less chaotic than before.
The more I learn about entropy the less I think of it as a chaos phenomenon. It's the reason why things happen the way they do.
How are you defining chaos, here?
Sort of thinking that the universe started as chaos and will end as chaos, but seems to be less so in the middle due to entropy.
Chaos, properly, encompasses both entropy and emergence, which are the forces which contribute to the total order and disorder of energy and matter.
Well, yes order is a subset of chaos. Then we get into chaos as everything, and entropy is a part of it. I'm stuck on chaos=disorder and probably shouldn't be. Entropy is more of an agent of change, and things are more ordered with it than without it. I was thinking went back to my days of arguing on creationist boards. They think of entropy as everything getting disordered, but if we didn't have it, every chemical reaction could spontaneously reverse, no energy required which to me is more disordered than ordered. Then I'd muse about people atomizing. Good times.
Not sure if I'm cut out for discussing the nature of chaos on a board that has probably argued about it a thousand times over before I even thought to look here.
There are a few old conversations about chaos = order+disorder and all that. Not to shamelessly plug*, but much of the results were distilled into the Chao te Ching
, if you don't mind that sort of thing.
*This is a shameless plug.