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I wish I were qualified to talk about the far-right  :sad:

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I actually can't read.  My shameful secret is now exposed :oops:

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4,000ish troops in Afghanistan and all of a sudden Trump is "presidential" once again.

4000 soldiers aren't going to do squat, of course.  The Taliban control more territory now then they have at any time since 2002 or thereabouts.  Afghan security forces, counter-terrorism special forces aside, are a complete shambles, and as a consequence of that their only worthwhile troops are being run into the ground and sooner or later it's going to get them all killed. ISIS in Afghanistan, who as I've previously mentioned are a bunch of no-hopers who couldn't cut it in the Taliban - along with the usual psychopathic foreign fighter contingent - are able to penetrate security in Kabul with appalling ease, so when the Taliban do make a push for the capitol, it will collapse like a house of cards, along with the government.

To add to the mix, Trump has decided now is the time to crack down on Pakistan.  I don't give two fucks for the ISI or the Pakistani Army, but the best time to pick a fight with them is probably not at the same time as we are relying on their ports to supply troops in-country.  Trump thinks he can offset this by appealing to India, but India's currently in a gigantic pissing match with China, the kind of pissing match which may devolve into a conflict if people don't tone it down soon.

If Pakistan does close its ports, or the ISI arranges some "unofficial action" to prevent those supplies getting through, the only other option would be from the north...via Russia.  Russia is believed to be supporting the Taliban.

But hey, "presidential", amirite?  Nothing more statesmanlike than jamming your dick in a hornet's nest over and over again.

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Oh dear.  He's caught us out.  Time to wrap it up guys, we're done here.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Is anyone here an advocate for non-violence?
« on: August 22, 2017, 05:38:59 pm »

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Is anyone here an advocate for non-violence?
« on: August 22, 2017, 04:27:45 pm »
Yeah, I briefly considered answering this seriously, until I realised who it was.

I mean, even without that, it was pretty clear that this was stage 2 of the trolling, after no-one took the super-obvious bait the first time around.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: August 22, 2017, 02:01:08 am »
Well, Murdoch's ex-wife was reportedly with Putin  :lol:  Whether this was before, after or at the same time she was reportedly spending a lot of time with Tony Blair is not entirely clear.

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The Spanish police are not fucking around when it comes to the Barcelona cell.  Out of a suspected 12 members there are:

3 on the run
6 shot dead
2 blown up (self-inflicted)
1 in the ICU (also self-inflicted)

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: August 21, 2017, 11:10:20 am »
Yeah, if Bannon starts leaking information he was privy to during his time in the White House, that has any kind of clearance rating or non-distribute clause attached, he's going to get smacked down hard by the courts.

That's assuming Rupert Murdoch does not tear him a new asshole first, of course.  News International and Breitbart are allegedly squaring up for a showdown.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Unofficial What are you Reading Thread?
« on: August 20, 2017, 06:19:50 pm »
No, but this is the real spoiler:

Joffrey is such a cunt.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Unofficial What are you Reading Thread?
« on: August 20, 2017, 10:14:05 am »
You haven't even gotten to the most depressing part yet: reading A Feast For Crows and finding out, after going through 11 million pages, that almost nothing has happened.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: August 19, 2017, 06:07:40 am »
Yes, there was quite a bit of confusion on that point.

Still, I think it's a safe bet that "fighting for Trump" will manifest itself in trashing the "globalists" at the White House.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: August 19, 2017, 12:32:41 am »
Anyone else feeling like he can do more damage as a free agent than in the WH?



Bannon is confirmed out.  Resigned 2 weeks ago, apparently.

Wait, what? So the "is he going" speculation went on when he was already gone?

Presumably they gave him two weeks to clear the cheap whiskey bottles from his office.

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History of Shitposting

A topic close to my heart


A good place to start is the usenet rec.pets.cats invasion. This is one of the first instances of organized internet trolling. The short version:

alt.tasteless mass-invaded this newsgroup specifically for cat lovers. They started slowly, by posting bad cat advice. Then they slowly turned up the temperature, getting more extreme ("when my cat misbehaves I pick him up by the tail and swing him around 3-4 times"), and participating in the hostile reaction to those posts ("people like you should be beaten to death with hammers"). This was before the September that Never Ended, so there wasn't a lot of irony on the net yet, people didn't have good tools for recognizing it and routing around it. It became a huge, hilarious spectacle.

I actually first heard about this in a sociology of the internet class - good times.




To speak a little bit more about the modern day form of shitposting....

Last weekend, a kid showed up at the Charlottesville rally, marched with the white nationalists, got separated from them and was surrounded by counter-protesters.... took off his shirt and said "I'm not a real white supremacist, I'm just here for the fun". http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/white-supremacist-march-for-fun_us_5994647de4b009141641d8f4

I think that if you can understand what happened here, you can understand a lot about right-wing youth radicalization via 4chan and similar places.

The anonymous internet forum gives people license to say what they want without any blowback. There is no identity at play there, all content is evaluated by itself, with no context of who said it.

The veil of anonymity gives you a safe space to say shitty taboo things without really meaning them. A lot of people experiment with racist ideas there, not motivated by hatred or fear, but mainly thrillseeking--the rush of violating a taboo. They know they're not supposed to say the n-word, and that's why it's fun to say it.

But the thing about irony is, if you gaze too deeply into the ironic abyss, it gradually becomes sincere. Our minds have a way of rationalizing the things we're thinking.

and it doesn't help that stormfront and other genuinely racist groups like to get into the mix -- so the ironic racism gets mixed with genuine racism, creating a fuzzy border between the two, a gradient across which osmosis takes place.

Pop it in the oven for 45 minutes and you've got kids shouting WHITE POWER for fun, the living shitposter.



I call this phenomenon THE MAN IN THE IRONIC MASK

This is exactly what Angela Nagle talks about in her book, Kill All Normies.  And I'm inclined to agree.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: August 18, 2017, 06:14:52 pm »
Bannon is confirmed out.  Resigned 2 weeks ago, apparently.

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