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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: December 08, 2018, 04:12:35 pm »
Yup.  Elijah Cunningham passed on some highly relevant reservations about Flynn to Pence, in a letter, which Pence then lied about.

Worth noting, since it's always missed in these discussions, that Flynn not only had suspicious contacts with the  Russian government, but also with the Turkish government who had hired his consulting firm, Flynn Associates, to provide information on Turkish opposition figures in the US and in one case, to figure out a plan to illegally rendition one back to Turkey.  At the very least Pence's vetting should have picked up on the Turkish government contracts.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« on: December 08, 2018, 12:03:16 pm »
The UK DOES remember the Potato Famine!

AS UK PRIME Minister Theresa May has just five days to try to rally support for her Brexit deal, a Tory MP has suggested using the possibility of food shortages in Ireland in the event of a no-deal Brexit to encourage the EU to drop the backstop.

A government report, leaked to the Times of London, has indicated that there could be food shortages in Ireland in a no-deal Brexit scenario, and the economic impact on Ireland would be worse than in the UK.


Tory MP Priti Patel has told the paper that these warnings should have been used as leverage against Ireland to encourage them to drop the backstop.

“This paper appears to show the government were well aware Ireland will face significant issues in a no-deal scenario. Why hasn’t this point been pressed home during negotiations? There is still time to go back to Brussels and get a better deal.”

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: December 07, 2018, 11:38:25 pm »
Looks like the courts have rejected Mueller's advice, and want to sentence Cohen to 3-4 years of prison time.

That's not the interesting part though, this is:

Aneristic Illusions / Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« on: December 07, 2018, 02:53:08 pm »
Latest projections are six months of chaos at Dover with a "no deal" outcome.

Kent County also projected an outcome where bodies could not be collected, schools would be closed and rubbish left on the streets all as a result of the traffic disruption.

The Lib Dems are trying to table legislation for another referendum, but they've lost the support of People's Vote, who want to build cross-party consensus on a second referendum before putting legislation before Parliament.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« on: December 06, 2018, 08:03:33 pm »
We still have to wait for the final comment from the European Courts on that (which incidentally occurs on Monday, the day before the vote), but yes.

Roger, what I keep on hearing, not just from TV but from actual people in the civil service and pub talk in Westminster (so...people in the civil service) is that this is The Will Of The People.  They've worked up the crazies, the hard Brexit gang and their supporters and the hard right media, into a monster of mythic proportions that they are deadly afraid of crossing.  I mean, I seem to remember a shit ton of people marching to prevent the war in Iraq, and Blair basically told them to go piss in the wind.  The Will of The People didn't matter then, but of course it was being articulated by hippies and professional activists, not The Telegraph and Sun newspapers.

They would quite literally prefer to wreck the country than possibly lose their jobs.  It's the very definition of cowardice.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« on: December 06, 2018, 05:28:10 pm »
We still have to put up with another 2 days of debate before the vote next week.

What will happen:

- Parliament will reject the deal
- Everyone will rush to come up with a new deal
- There will be no consensus for any of these deals, because they are all either crap, insane, will never be agreed to by the EU or do not pander to the fantasies sold to the British public for well over 2 decades now.  Certainly none of them will appeal to more than any 30 given MPs.
- No-one will actually challenge May for the leadership, because, you know, poison chalice
- There will not be a general election.  There will not be a second referendum.
- Everyone will stare at each other gormlessly until we crash out of the EU without a deal in place

Aneristic Illusions / Re: UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?
« on: December 06, 2018, 10:33:04 am »
So, there are two rumours currently swirling around Whitehall:

1) Everyone, from Cabinet members down to junior civil servants, is expecting there to be a major Brexit inquiry once this is done.  Everyone is keeping personal records.
2) In an interesting contrast to the above, there are secret cabinet-level meetings going on.  These involve members of the Cabinet and the PM, but not the civil service, and what happens in them is not being recorded.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: December 05, 2018, 10:50:25 pm »
He also runs a cybersecurity company, Guiliani Partners  :lulz:

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: December 05, 2018, 11:36:39 am »
It's a definite possibility.

I had three potential thoughts myself:

1) Money laundering.  We know Mueller has retained experts in prosecuting money laundering and international financial crimes.
2) The DNC hack.  Assange has been named in another sealed indictment.  Could it be the same one? 
3) Turkey.  Flynn wasn't only in with the Russians, he was doing some very dodgy work for the Turkish state, including planning a kidnapping.  Did Turkish penetration of the Trump administration go further than that?

Aneristic Illusions / Re: Hypocrisy
« on: December 05, 2018, 10:00:51 am »
The problem with attacking people for hypocrisy is the assumption that they actually hold the values they claim to hold dear in any regard in the first place.

In the case of, say, Evangelicals and Donald Trump, the very existence of the relationship makes it clear that they do not.

I hate to use the phrase, but it's like the purported values they have are in fact "virtue signalling" than statements of belief and value judgement. 

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: December 05, 2018, 09:20:39 am »
So, Mueller's sentencing recommendations on Flynn have been released.

Of interest: he requests that Flynn serve no prison time due to his high level of cooperation with the investigation, and that Flynn has been helpful in three investigations, the third of which is completely censored on the public version of the memo.

Speculation abounds as to what that investigation may be, but it's pretty intriguing.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: UNLIMITED 2018 Midterm Thread.
« on: December 04, 2018, 07:16:35 pm »
Logical extension of their approach to gerrymandering, IMO.  When you don't accept the opposition party as being legitimate, you can take any steps to prevent them from seizing power - or doing too much with that power.

Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Drinks are on the Supreme Court
« on: December 04, 2018, 03:51:35 pm »
Sounds like someone isn't



a wonderful Christmas time!

Aneristic Illusions / Re: UNLIMITED Immigration Nutbaggery Thread
« on: December 01, 2018, 10:37:34 am »

Back in my day, the exam to get into the civil service covered mathematics, political analysis, law, calligraphy, horse riding, archery, and knowledge of the classics, not to mention the ability to write strictly metered poetry.

I guess the standards are a bit lower in modern America.

You're doing well for someone 1400 years old.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: November 29, 2018, 10:00:14 pm »
Operation Twitter Deathwatch is a go.

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