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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Is anyone here an advocate for non-violence?
« on: August 20, 2017, 08:06:53 am »
Not to keep being needlessly critical, but something else I've noticed about the most frequent posters here: Anytime someone new comes along and has anything remotely contrary or engaging to offer, you puff up, hold hands, start name-calling, and proceed to muse about it being a sockpuppet for some other (usually oddly specific) individual. Paranoia, insularity, and hyperreaction all rolled into one.

This really is a delightful if elaborate front you manage.

Still, my question stands, and I think my position is clear. If there are any non-chest-beaters that frequent the board, I'd be glad to have you chime in.

no, lol. actual new people get treated like human beings until they prove themselves not to be such. you, on the other hand, are not new, your "points" are not new, your "questions" are not new, your approach is definitely not new. just tossing in the "maybe i was wrong" thing in your OP doesn't mean anything when you go directly back to the same tired shit within 3 posts.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Is anyone here an advocate for non-violence?
« on: August 20, 2017, 04:52:47 am »
first appearance: is obvious troll
second appearance: 'guys it was just an experiment, i've decided not to be a troll', is still obvious troll.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Is anyone here an advocate for non-violence?
« on: August 19, 2017, 05:44:02 pm »
Then again, you know all this and you're just here to hear your keyboard clatter. So, whatever.

You had me right up until this point. Not to cry about it, but I think it was uncalled for. If I've given that impression, I'd like to know how.

If I haven't forgotten what the Nazis did after 70 years, why would I forget you being a troll after a matter of weeks?

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When fly a Nazi flag or don a stupid bedsheet like you're doing the world a favor, you are allying yourself not just with the disgusting ideology behind those murders, but the acts themselves.

As for this, my only rebuttal that it is easier to hold an enemy to their standards than your own. In other words, understanding (not assuming, but finding agreement on) how your enemy sees themself (and particularly how they see you) can be useful in strategizing against them - in both diplomacy and war.

I understand how they see themselves. As warriors for the preservation of "white culture" or "white genes" or whatever euphemism they think will get their foot in the door of polite conversation. That is, they are militant opponents of multiculturalism and racial and sexual equality. They believe -- at the very least -- that white people exist as a somehow distinct subset of the human species, that our history and genes give us moral, intellectual, or other advantages over non-whites, and that it would be folly to lose those advantages by mingling with "other races". That is as benign as they get. By identifying themselves with symbols of murder, they are saying outright what lengths they are willing to go to in order defend their repugnant beliefs. They use those symbols specifically because of their violent connotations in an attempt to intimidate people and incite violence. I reject every foundation of every belief they have, forcefully. They see themselves as living outside the rules and regulations of our open and inclusive society -- and since "rights" are only meaningful in the context of civilization, by rejecting civilization, they have forfeited whatever rights they may have had.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Unofficial What are you Reading Thread?
« on: August 19, 2017, 05:25:45 pm »
I'm taking a break from R. Scott Bakker, because it's intense and depressing.

So, like an idiot, I started Song of Ice and Fire, which is even more depressing.

I'm done with Game of Thrones and just starting A Clash of Kings. Also, I refuse to watch the TV adaptation until the books are done. Christ, this series should have been called "Everything Gets Worse".

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Is anyone here an advocate for non-violence?
« on: August 19, 2017, 05:07:26 pm »
I can't make grand statements about what motivates people, other than myself. I am not particularly fond of the idea of engaging in violence. But for all the reasons you can find in any argument about this, which everyone has seen repeated over and over again everywhere, I would count myself closer to Antifa than to MLK-style nonviolence. Where some people see more reactionary, "that person disagrees with me and I want to hurt them" politics, I see only a need for an abrupt, forceful negation of violence -- both actual and implied -- represented by the emergence of proud Nazis in the mainstream of American political discourse.

Everyone can be nonviolent, but few of them will ever be MLK. I think part of the reason I'm drawn to the militant side is that it seems borderline useless to be just one more frowning face in a nonviolent crowd. It isn't morally wrong to be that, and more often than not that is the only option open to me, but it doesn't feel like enough. Being a monkey, this frustrates me. Being a frustrated monkey, I want to hit things. That will feel like more.

But that isn't even half of it. The larger part of the drive comes from knowing exactly what Nazis, the Klan, and neo-Confederates represent. Not some vague ideology of nebulous hate, but the very real, historically documented murder of millions and millions of innocent people. When you fly a Nazi flag or don a stupid bedsheet like you're doing the world a favor, you are allying yourself not just with the disgusting ideology behind those murders, but the acts themselves. And worse, really, because unlike Germans in the 1920s and 30s, there is no possibility in today's world of "accidentally" falling in with murderers flying the swastika. We know what they are. There is no excuse for joining them. The act of being a Nazi is a violent act in and of itself, because it is a public proclamation that you refuse to value other human beings and are willing to murder them for no reason at all.

Then again, you know all this and you're just here to hear your keyboard clatter. So, whatever.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: ITT: Confess your WOO!
« on: August 18, 2017, 06:29:14 am »
David Avacodo Wolfe is like Breitbart for vegans.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: The Work
« on: August 17, 2017, 05:47:56 pm »
I'm not here to tell you that what you're doing isn't work. I'm not here to tell you your work isn't enough. I'm not even here to passive aggressively bitch at you if you are one of the people with whom I have had to do work.

I'm doing work, and it's hard, and I need to keep reminding myself that it is the only thing worth getting up for, even if it feels like it's killing me.

And if I need to hear that, I know there are other people doing the work who need to hear it, too. I know there are other people who are doing it and don't think of it as work, who are beating themselves up for being tired, for being not good enough, not strong enough, not engaged enough.

But maybe there are people who aren't doing the work at all, and want to be a good person and don't know how to move past passive not-badness, who see scary things on the TV and don't know what to do or what to say and are scared and depressed and curled up in a ball that is equal parts fear for others and self loathing. Maybe some of those folks are here. I want them to know that the only way out of that death spiral is to do the work. Even if you only do a little bit. Even if you reward yourself with ice cream breakfast for it. Even if you have to take frequent breaks to preserve your own sanity (because you can't do the work if you're broken or dead). We are fighting a war on infinite fronts, and every small act to hold the line is how we hold the line, and every advance is a victory for us all, even if it is inches.

I am celebrating the work. I am acknowledging that it is work.

Your honesty and sharing are inspiring. I don't mean to imply with my post that I feel shamed, only that I see the deficit in my actions thanks to your post, and I intend to do something about it. What, I don't know. Whether it amounts to anything more than a change of outlook and attitude, I can't say. But I am glad you're here to say what you're saying and as cursed as we are to live in these interesting times, we are also lucky to share these times with people as dedicated as you are.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: The Work
« on: August 17, 2017, 06:40:31 am »
I am probably not doing the work.

I don't tolerate my acquaintances' bullshit, but I'm no good at convincing them to do anything other than shut up when I'm around them. I do what every other piss-ant "activist" does, post things on Facebook and Twitter, but even that's dragging. The Tangerine Shitgibbon himself is scheduled to be here on Saturday, unless the mayor's borderline-hostile demand that he go fuck himself is listened to (which it won't be), and I have no plans to go because I've got "shit to do" that day, like every other time there's a reason to get off my ass.

I have a decent job, but it's not the kind of job that will survive me being tossed in county for a week, and my kids have medical shit and that's why I can't risk employment and there are plenty of excuses. I did buy some fine new curbstomping boots, but more because my last pair wore out than because these new ones will get any of the right kind of use. I used to be reasonably good at propaganda, at least, but there's a wall there too. So many people to shout out, and nothing to say to them other than "fuck you" and "go away". It's bleak for me. Summer is a shit time for me emotionally anyway, and seeing the country fall apart isn't helping.

I don't actually know anyone, or where to go to find anyone to know, or any goddamn time to go there even if I did. Or any energy to maintain human relationships beyond the ones that already keep me on empty. The city is about 70 miles from one end to the other, and there are probably decent people out there worth banding together, but they all blend in with the stucco. Politically, Arizona is locked down tighter than Ft. Knox. The Republican establishment here fears no one, and the Democrats have about half as many teeth as a jellyfish.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: August 14, 2017, 11:24:51 pm »
Trump's considering definitely going to be pardoning Sheriff Joe.
fixed for clairvoyance

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I don't know whether or not they'd be able to materially change the outcome of an election (who knows what life in America will even be like in another 15 months anyway). I just mean that they could make just being at the polls a miserable and possibly violent experience, which is bad enough without swaying the election.

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I'm almost* dreading the 2018 elections. If what we are seeing now seems bad, imagine what it'll be like when the Fascists realize they may lose everything at the polls.


*"almost", but not quite, as long as they don't make socks and ball bearings illegal.

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I'm happy because it seems the counter-protesters/Antifa haven't just gotten bored and returned to their playstations as I half expected them to do. And at every rally, they seem to outnumber the racists at least 2 to 1, which is saying something since at least in Charlottesville, the Antifa almost certainly weren't as busy filling buses across the country to congregate there.

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Bring and Brag / Re: Stang did another of my rants at Starwood.
« on: August 13, 2017, 03:20:08 am »
awesome!

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Bring and Brag / Re: WEIRDOVERSE
« on: August 08, 2017, 04:35:46 am »
I'm sure this has been asked, but do you allow these to be distributed on social media? If so, what kind of attribution do you want? Is there a link or something?

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: August 08, 2017, 04:34:30 am »
On the plus side, I doubt Trump has the attention span to make it past the first paragraph of that memo.

True. On the negative side, though, is that Trump is a useful idiot to the people who are moving into position and will be taking the reigns of actual power shortly.

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