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It kinda still can. Because the box controls culture.

I live in Tucson.  Culture is something that happens to other people.  In places like Boston and Portland.

But they have shit like Kozy Shack, whatever the fuck that is, so I think I win.

Kozy Shack is love. Kozy Shack is light.

Literate Chaotic / Re: Strange Relations
« on: October 11, 2015, 05:53:27 pm »
Yes, interesting. I'd like to hear more, maybe some unpacking of why it had the effect on you that it did.

What, is this old home week or some shit?

A couple of mass shootings, a war or three, and suddenly everyone wants to come back to Discordia.



Principia Discussion / Re: Im not dIscordIan
« on: October 11, 2015, 05:48:48 pm »
Can fish?

Can dog food?

Can vegetables?

Principia Discussion / Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
« on: October 11, 2015, 05:47:58 pm »
Also, this is not the place where those of us who do revolutionary shit get things done.

There's also that.

The sexual fustration extending from highschool well into college thing is interesting.

That plus a culture that encourages arrested development, deminished responsibility, while simultanously pushing that they are the protagonist...

Its going to increase, further.

I've expressed my views on gun ownership in the past, I see no valid reasons to own one and want to see reduction of availability. But I dont think it would make much difference in these cases.

Something cultural is going to have to change or its going to get worse.

Yes. This.

In other words, I'm saying that being unable to get laid and the shootings are likely both byproducts of related factors.

A combination of a feeling of powerlessness, American gun culture, toxic, aggressive masculinity, and just for shits and giggles, white male privilege?

The white male privilege may be a more important contributor than most people seem to give it credit for. Since Elliot Rodger has come up as an example, let's refer to him again; his primary distinguishing characteristic was that he felt entitled to things he wasn't getting. He had good looks and money; America promised him popularity and sex, but he wasn't receiving those things. He was angry at being denied what he believed was his inherent due. Most shooters are middle-class or better; they are angry and thwarted and powerless and believe that they are being denied something that they are owed, and, most of all, that it is other people's fault.

Principia Discussion / Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
« on: October 11, 2015, 03:14:47 pm »
You know, for all the semi punk anti the machine TM discordianism, this group at least, isn't very revolutionary.

Revolution isn't my bag; too many people dying. I'm more of a cultural shift kinda girl.

I mean, we didn't  get same-sex marriage, socialized medicine, assisted suicide, municipal composting, free community college, and legal marijuana via revolution. I'd personally like to work it out so that we keep  all the good  things about our governmental infrastructure and eliminate the bad things as much as possible, rather than scrap the whole thing and start  over, which often as not just results in a different shitty overlord the same as the last one.

In other words, I'm saying that being unable to get laid and the shootings are likely both byproducts of related factors.

I completely don't buy the sexual frustration angle, either. While it's a very facile explanation, it isn't based on anything other than speculation and projection, and doesn't seem to have any historical analogues or really any other support whatsoever. I think it's about powerlessness, authority, and a sense of futility. I think it has something to do with the power and social dynamics inside schools.

I'm not sure the sexual angle can really be ruled out.

Malformed rant:
  • White males predominantly seem to do this
  • Eliot Rodger's explicit comments on being entitled to sex
  • Oregon shooter apparently a virgin
  • Who really wants to kill anyone when you're still high on sex oxytocins?
  • I remember being a horrible little teenager with murder in my heart, and if I hadn't been getting laid, I'm not sure what I may have done with the handgun I smuggled to school one day in my JNCOs.
  • In a patriarchal system, women are valuable as sex and status objects. So with the firm depressive belief that you will never have sex or status that you really want and having decided on being a cowardly little bitch that's going to kill himself anyway, you might as well try to score a few Man™ points by killing those assholes at school that ridicule you all the time when they aren't living their perfect, sheltered little lives.
  • Sex as a rough indicator of social competency.
  • Social competency as a key to your overall happiness as an ape

I could see sex being one of the contributing frustrations, but I also think it's important to keep in mind that being  unable to find a sexual partner is usually a byproduct of other forms of social incompetency. I really do not think there is a good case for it being the driving factor behind the shootings, even though it is simple and appealing on a gut level for that  reason.

It is certainly well worth noting that the majority of adolescents, male and female, are sexually frustrated, many well into their college years, making it in itself a wholly inadequate explanation, however compelling it feels from an "I can relate to that" standpoint. It also implies that simply not getting laid is enough to make young men into mass murderers, and I would certainly like to give men more credit than that.

On the other hand, loneliness, isolation, powerlessness and rejection on a more holistic level are far more plausible as primary contributing factors.

Yeah. I'm also not keen on a narrative that implies that girls need to be getting boys laid or the school will get shot up.

Yes, also this.

Literate Chaotic / Re: Discordianism Revealed!
« on: October 11, 2015, 02:46:36 pm »
Isn't this suuuuper old?


Squat toilets were pretty much the second best thing about East Asia. The first best thing was GODDAMN HANDHELD BIDETS. Spraying your ass clean is the best. Goddamn best.

Also, you can't accidentally crap in the handheld bidets when you've been into the booze.


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