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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 26, 2017, 08:42:18 pm »
Does he have the power to pull out of NATO, or is it just a stunt?

He'd need Congress to ratify it, since NATO is enshrined in treaty law.

But he could always pull a France and downgrade cooperation with the rest of NATO.  Withdraw troops from Europe, remove remaining troops from unified command...he has options short of leaving.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 26, 2017, 07:42:14 pm »
If you're trying to drive a wedge between the US and its European allies, it makes perfect sense.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 26, 2017, 02:14:01 pm »
He's the head of the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Though probably not for long at this rate  :lulz:

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BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY LIBERTARIANISM, ALTY.  AS A REAL SCOTSMAN, I OBJECT TO YOUR SLANDER.

TAXATION IS THEFT (Y\N?)

Obviously, taxation is rape.  And slavery.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 26, 2017, 01:25:34 pm »
Meanwhile, the Trump is continuing to make the best deals

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-dismisses-white-houses-intimidating-300bn-bill-for-defence-dl7dk629k

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Donald Trump handed the German chancellor Angela Merkel a bill — thought to be for more than £300bn — for money her country “owed” Nato for defending it when they met last weekend, German government sources have revealed.

The bill — handed over during private talks in Washington — was described as “outrageous” by one German minister.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 26, 2017, 01:15:04 pm »
Meanwhile, Mike Flynn discussed with Turkey about how to kidnap Gulen while on Turkey's payroll

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-cia-director-mike-flynn-and-turkish-officials-discussed-removal-of-erdogan-foe-from-u-s-1490380426

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The discussion late last summer involved ideas about how to get Fethullah Gulen, a cleric whom Turkey has accused of orchestrating last summer’s failed military coup, to Turkey without going through the U.S. extradition legal process, according to Mr. Woolsey and those who were briefed.

Mr. Woolsey told The Wall Street Journal he arrived at the meeting in New York on Sept. 19 in the middle of the discussion and found the topic startling and the actions being discussed possibly illegal.

The Turkish ministers were interested in open-ended thinking on the subject, and the ideas were raised hypothetically, said the people who were briefed. The ministers in attendance included the son-in-law of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the country’s foreign minister, foreign-lobbying disclosure documents show.

Mr. Woolsey said the idea was “a covert step in the dead of night to whisk this guy away.” The discussion, he said, didn’t include actual tactics for removing Mr. Gulen from his U.S. home. If specific plans had been discussed, Mr. Woolsey said, he would have spoken up and questioned their legality.

It isn’t known who raised the idea or what Mr. Flynn concluded about it.
:lulz:
I'll have to remember that one.

"It wasn't no "conspiracy to commit" we was just havin' one of them nice, open-ended thinking hypothetical conversations. Ain't no crime in that yer honor."

It gets better.  Devin Nunes was also present at that meeting

https://twitter.com/yottapoint/status/845712917764845568

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 26, 2017, 12:15:38 pm »
While I'm glad it didn't pass, it's still disturbing that the reason the Freedom Caucus rejected the bill was that it wasn't draconian enough. It makes me worried what they'll try to push next time.

They're pushing FREEDOM, comrade.  It's in the name.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: EU Referendum 23rd June: In or Out?
« on: March 26, 2017, 12:14:44 pm »
So just what is in the water in Clacton anyway?  I mean, voting for Carswell when he was a Tory was bad enough, but I can sort of understand it.   But now?

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BUT THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY LIBERTARIANISM, ALTY.  AS A REAL SCOTSMAN, I OBJECT TO YOUR SLANDER.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 25, 2017, 08:41:19 am »
Meanwhile, Mike Flynn discussed with Turkey about how to kidnap Gulen while on Turkey's payroll

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ex-cia-director-mike-flynn-and-turkish-officials-discussed-removal-of-erdogan-foe-from-u-s-1490380426

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The discussion late last summer involved ideas about how to get Fethullah Gulen, a cleric whom Turkey has accused of orchestrating last summer’s failed military coup, to Turkey without going through the U.S. extradition legal process, according to Mr. Woolsey and those who were briefed.

Mr. Woolsey told The Wall Street Journal he arrived at the meeting in New York on Sept. 19 in the middle of the discussion and found the topic startling and the actions being discussed possibly illegal.

The Turkish ministers were interested in open-ended thinking on the subject, and the ideas were raised hypothetically, said the people who were briefed. The ministers in attendance included the son-in-law of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the country’s foreign minister, foreign-lobbying disclosure documents show.

Mr. Woolsey said the idea was “a covert step in the dead of night to whisk this guy away.” The discussion, he said, didn’t include actual tactics for removing Mr. Gulen from his U.S. home. If specific plans had been discussed, Mr. Woolsey said, he would have spoken up and questioned their legality.

It isn’t known who raised the idea or what Mr. Flynn concluded about it.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 24, 2017, 07:43:59 pm »
Trumpcare vote withdrawn  :lulz:

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Unofficial What are you Reading Thread?
« on: March 24, 2017, 03:25:54 pm »
It was, though I read it quite a while ago - I can't actually remember how it ends.  I do remember enjoying it though. Speaking of hard science, The Expanse on Syfy is quite fun.  The books are meant to be pretty good as well.

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Well they're Greek, and individualist anarchists, so it wouldn't surprise me either way.

Of course, that would just mean them sending a badly made firebomb in the post to where the Chicago Manual of Style lives.

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Just wrote about the terrorist group with the most ridiculous name - the Conspiracy of the Cells of Fire.

Fortunately there is an abbreviation, or I would've hit my word limit much quicker than planned.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Unofficial What are you Reading Thread?
« on: March 24, 2017, 03:03:14 pm »
I read one of KSR's previous books - 2312.  Definitely the gold standard for hard science fiction, that guy.

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