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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: January 06, 2018, 11:54:12 pm »
I think he is basically a semi-aware collection of assumptions and insecurities more than he is an actual person.

I spotted a new social media platform that takes an interesting approach to the problem of complex arguments not fitting into bite-sized blurbs and tweets. presents arguments where instead of endless threads full of people sniping at each other, every issue is supported by a number of "pro" and "con" arguments, each in short tweet-format, each of these arguments is in turn supported by its own set of pros and cons, and so on. Ranking is done by votes, but rather than voting on whether you agree with a given statement, you rank its effect on the argument it is attached to.

Arranging ideas this way allows small ideas to be voiced as part of larger arguments, and the complexity and nuances of a discussion can grow exponentially without descending directly into chaos. I don't know how useful or important the site will be over time, but I think the approach is neat.

i'm going to need a new pair of pance.

A major evil rises to menace America about every 70-90 years. The last one was the Third Reich and Imperial Japan, and before that there was the Confederacy

well, they say the third time's the charm. The thing about the last two times was that the South never really had a chance. They were outnumbered and outgunned and had no manufacturing base. WWII was a bit closer, but still, America didn't even show up to the fight in Europe until the Nazis were already in an untenable position. The war in the Pacific was harder, but even if we'd lost there it isn't like Japan would have also invaded and conquered the mainland, at least not without the help of a Europe unified under Nazi Germany. This time around is sort of like the Civil War, except that the Confederates are already in power.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: December 18, 2017, 08:39:25 pm »
They're already talking about how Mueller got emails from the Trump campaign "illegally" as if Mueller is the kind of person to make rookie mistakes like that. Of course it's all bullshit but as long as Fox News has something to beat over Mueller's head, nobody on the right (yes that includes Congressional Democrats) will do anything about firing him. Maybe they'll make some kind of general wishy-washy statement about allowing the (Trump-controlled) FBI to take on the "investigation" as a standard case (which will promptly go cold and won't even be mentioned anymore). The fact is there's no reason for Trump to hesitate on this. There is no one willing to hold him to any kind of standard whatsoever. He could have the Secret Service shoot Mueller in the back in broad daylight, and nothing would happen.

Apple Talk / Re: Introductions, Part VI: Welcome to Our PD Party
« on: December 18, 2017, 01:34:18 pm »
This is a lot of new blood. Looks like my riffraff conjuration spell worked.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: December 18, 2017, 01:25:14 am »
Rumour is Trump is going to shitcan Mueller on the 22nd, while Congress is out of town.

All the current manufactured outrage about the transition team emails Mueller legally requested is intended to be the opening salvo in making an immediate case for his dismissal.

Just thought you'd like to know. Nothing is set in stone, of course.  But Adam Schiff, the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, voiced his concerns that this was going to happen even before the email thing blew up.  And while he may be something of a hawk, Schiff has always come across as thoughtful and not inclined to hysterical pronouncements in the past.

I saw today that some Trump admin spokesperson claimed in no uncertain terms that "there have been no discussions whatsoever" about firing Mueller, which means of course that it's a foregone conclusion. If (when) it happens, I expect the Democrats to whine about it for a couple of days and then roll over, as usual.

Why nihilism?
Do you think everyone else here can't also see how fucked things are? What good is hopelessness?
If you truly believe that nothing can be done and there is no hope, why not just kill yourself now (please don't take this the wrong way, I am not telling you to kill yourself) ? Or ignore the hopelessness of the situation and have fun while the world still exists?

I'm bad at expressing the exact emotions attached to this state of affairs. My outlook isn't one of nihilism, exactly. It's more like frustrated apocalypticism.

We all have our limits of what we can handle, but at what point does pessimism become a self-fulfilling cycle of guaranteed failure? No one knows how this shit is going to pan out. There is no useful precedent to compare to.

Playing down your agency as a human is a safe bet though, because wallowing in your sense of helplessness is the “thoughts and prayers” of the left right now. It exempts your sad sack ass from having to spend energy even imagining what may be within your power to influence, let alone blazing a trail to goddamn victory.

But that’s okay. No single person or ideology is going to fix this, and everybody needs a break from time to time.

You Gen-Xers are in love with being jaded pragmatists, which is fine. I find it quite endearing how you cast yourselves as stoic, anti-hero observers that disavow any charges of seeming slightly optimistic about anything, but nonetheless still contribute towards the greater good like the ironic little fuckweasels you are.

I can still see the hope stains on your shoes though.

a ) I'm a millennial, young man.
b ) you're probably right about everything else, but at this point i'd rather see a nuclear apocalypse than put any effort into fixing things.

Apple Talk / Re: It's me! Ask Me Anything!
« on: December 17, 2017, 06:07:28 pm »
a. i knew it was you anyway. i mean the nickname was sort of a giveaway.
b. how do you find time to post online these days at all, what with the world literally unravelling in 3 or 4 states and all the pot zombies running around murdering innocent people?
c. okay whatever i hardly ever post anyway it isn't like i'm the management.

Literate Chaotic / Re: ITT: Original Story Ideas
« on: December 12, 2017, 04:07:10 pm »
A mad scientist manages to generate a stable, long-lasting micro-singularity in his lab. He uses it as a sex toy.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: Universal Basic Income
« on: December 10, 2017, 01:50:04 am »
I'm definitely a supporter of UBI, but there's no limit to the number of reasons it will probably never be adopted. It's true that it's basically an expansion of basic welfare (SSI, unemployment, etc), but it also transforms not only welfare but the entire social concept of work. Most American "progressives", not to mention conservatives, are completely flabbergasted by the idea. It completely disassembles the idea that a person's social value is equivalent to the work they do. It isn't even about economics, it's about the notion that I am more important than you because I don't have to worry about where the money for rent is coming from. UBI requires that everyone, or at least most people, admit that human life is worth supporting simply because it exists. And while that sounds like an easy thing to get agreement on, it really isn't.

There's also all the work that's done by people who take jobs just to survive. Walmart cashiers, hospitality workers, shelf-stockers, food service, and tens of other jobs just wouldn't get done, because nobody would need to do them. Employers would have to raise the wages for those jobs to something more appealing, and most of these industries run on low margins as it is, which means either a sharp spike in consumer prices all over the place or entire industries crashing. For this reason, UBI won't really be viable until almost all low-wage jobs are threatened by automation. The flipside of that is that when automation threatens those jobs, which is going to happen anyway, UBI will be one of the only reasonable solutions.

UBI does simplify just about every kind government assistance program. Right now there are hundreds of programs to help the unemployed and underemployed, displaced workers, people who can't afford housing, people who can't afford food, and so on. The underlying assumption in all of these programs is a recognition that our capitalist economy doesn't work out for everyone all the time, and people deserve some help righting themselves when they slip through the cracks. But modern political trends basically deny this idea. Even if it's never stated outright, the popular philosophy now says that if you need help in a capitalist economy, it's because you're stupid or lazy or irresponsible. Before UBI can even be considered, that idea has to go away and we have to return to a more realistic understanding of economics among the general population. It doesn't have a chance while people are still talking about "welfare queens" and "group x stealing jobs from Americans".

As for subsidizing consumption, that's a valid concern. I don't think it's a show-stopper, but it would certainly be a problem while renewable resources and other green technologies were still being artificially restrained by vested interests in old-fashioned energy and production. The fact is that the way we do things now is just good enough for just enough people to keep us from moving forward. While a large enough percentage of people can be fooled into thinking everything is fine, there won't be enough political will to change things. We're sort of at an impasse right now where there is no direct line from here to there. The system we have now has to fail before it can evolve. The problem, of course, is getting the system to fail without letting it fail catastrophically. Which seems unlikely, to say the least.

Overall, UBI is a superb solution to a lot of problems, but it is so incompatible with traditional thinking and existing economic patterns that it has zero chance of even being attempted on any scale, let alone succeeding. It is both necessary and impossible.

Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: December 09, 2017, 04:28:56 am »
I'm being made to do online training.  About radicalisation.

I'm actually doing the test, mostly for the lolz, but I'll be damned if I'm emailing my certificate to the training coordinator, when I have an entire thesis on this topic.

this is like that time I had to take online training about how to not fall for email scams.

This is awesome. I'm glad to have been part of its inspiration.

A lot of variables go into making attention span evaporation a reality. As often as not, the person trying to convey a complex idea is doomed from the outset because probably more than half of the communication taking place on social media isn't intended to convey information in the first place, but to declare allegiance to or campaign for the acceptance of an established group. That's partly why the factuality of memes has practically no value -- it doesn't matter whether your information is true, it matters that you're on one side or another.

When you tear apart a factually incorrect meme, the only positive impact you can really have is to deter undecided people from being swayed by that information. But in that case, it isn't the exposition of the misinformation that has that effect, but how you look when delivering it. In the near future, everyone will assume all information is, or at least potentially is, false. If that's the case, then veracity has no bearing on "rightness", and the only measure of whether or not a particular side is "right" will be whether or not it seems like they're winning. There are already plenty of people in this state of mind and openly admitting it, even boasting about it.

This is partly what drives social media toward ever-shorter, less informationally dense forms of communication. Since the information you could deliver in five paragraphs is secondary to the purpose of interacting, you might as well just use clever one-liners and memes instead. It increases your exposure, gaining numbers of "readers" that long-form writing never could.

Of course, there is still a lot of long-form writing around. Print journalism, magazines both online and off, blogs, and novels are still there. The biggest difference between these and social media, besides convenience, is that people are unlikely to encounter views that diverge from their own in long-form mediums. People actually do have longer attention spans when they can be relatively sure they're not going to be challenged. Maybe the strictly curtailed attention spans we see on social media is a kind of proactive defense mechanism?

Anyway thanks for your post, it gives me something to ponder about.

Here’s my offering to the list:

We humans lack the intelligent required for our long-term survival.
That's definitely true. All the truly intelligent species had the good sense not to evolve in the first place.

Now that I'm reading it instead of just formatting blindly, "those social divisions" may need to be reworded...

Agreed... but the format looks amazing!

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