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While every word of this is true, Reason 1 explains why having this piece thrown out into the media for public consumption would simply result in "TL;DR"-type responses, or none at all.

I try pointing out shit like this (Although, not nearly as eloquently and thoroughly as you've done, here) all the time, but no one wants to read anything for longer than a few seconds at a time. It's honestly one of the most frustrating aspects of this list, in that it prevents discussion that could solve the other items in the list.

Yeah, this. It's really at the point now where the only "hope" that really exists is that maybe we'll actually have some kind of nuclear Armageddon that wipes out 95% of humanity, and maybe whoever picks up the pieces will do a better job next time around.

They won't, though.

And civilization hasn't been all bad. After all, it gave us Snuggies and internet forums, so at the very least, it made a few lives a little more comfortable than they might have been without it. And there were a few generations in a few places for a while that really got to live it up. That's small comfort to the billions of people who have consistently held the short end of the stick, I know, but statistically it was better than nothing. And if not, don't worry, we'll get to see how nothing compares soon enough.

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Our leaders use Fascist tactics, but they aren't really Fascists. They're Feudalists building a system where peasants pay tribute to the new nobility first on economic divisions, and to each other secondarily based on those social divisions.

Well stated!

I became aware of this fairly recently. Unfortunately, I donít know what those few of us who are both aware of and upset by this political movement can do to stop it. 


As for what we can do to stop it, allow me to direct your attention to the title of this thread.

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8. The kinds of progressives who are currently being laughed out of global politics because of their "crazy ideas"... are not nearly progressive enough to do any good, even if they got everything they asked for. Despite half of the planet being consumed with Hollywood blockbuster entertainment about superheroes and spaceships, it turns out nobody actually has any imagination.

It's kind of worse than this. In the last 6 months I can't recall hearing a new "progressive" idea. When was the last time you heard one? The next one you're likely to hear about is equal rights for Whatever nominal fetish or sexuality you want to invent. Being progressive is no longer about advancing everyone, just your own tiny and inconsequential agenda. Seriously, hit me with an idea that's not either been talked to death a billion times over for decades. If you can pull out anything more helpful to everyone than "Equal rights for furries" I'm all ears.





I am not implying V3x or Howl are furries. I am insinuating it.
No, you're right. Identity politics and equality are important of course, but people act like that's all there is left to fix. And everyone sees the world through the prism of whichever persecution most directly affects them. I can't speak to the urgency of these things because I don't encounter much outright persecution. It's possible I am doing the same thing by seeing everything  through the prism of economics, but it really seems that the systematic financial repression of "commoners" reinforces every other kind of oppression. But if you talk about economic liberation, you're pinned as someone who doesn't care about identity politics. Everyone thinks we have to choose one or the other, and that's fine for individuals but not when it gets to the point of actively tearing down any movement that isn't *your* movement.

The elite in this country are still straight white "Christian" males, and yes, they do work to keep it that way. But I think they use ethnic, racial, religious, and gender divisions as tools rather than as ends in and of themselves. Our leaders use Fascist tactics, but they aren't really Fascists. They're Feudalists building a system where peasants pay tribute to the new nobility first on economic divisions, and to each other secondarily based on those social divisions.

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9.  Humans who do attempt to fix anything are, historically-speaking, murdered or driven off by the other humans.

And even if they manage to succeed somehow, they become the next problem.

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The list is getting pretty long, so I am going to start writing it down.

1. The problems society faces are complicated, nuanced, and typically have no obvious or satisfying solution that benefits everyone. Unfortunately, our ability to compromise is basically dead, and everything about modern communication centers around bite-sized ideas. We are at a rare point in human development where the tools we have developed are exactly the opposite of what we need to solve our problems.

2. Speaking of our tools, we have designed the Internet: a miraculous platform for communication that transcends all historical barriers to the flow of information and ideas. We have then done the eminently Human thing and used this platform to segregate ourselves morally, philosophically, and along every other fault line we can think of, creating new barriers to the flow of ideas. Now we find ourselves in disposable communities, surrounded by people we suspect of not belonging. It's not exactly a recipe for the unity required to take on large systems of oppression or violence.

3. We refuse to face real problems, because we're too busy being righter and louder than everyone else, and being honest about our problems introduces the risk that we might not be as correct as we think we are. We're subconsciously aware that we're full of shit, but are scared of admitting it.

4. The systems we have built to automate society have grown bigger and more powerful than us. They're more complex than our mental models of them, and they are just efficient enough to fool us into thinking we don't need to maintain them. They also rot from the inside out, so by the time we notice a problem, it's way too late to fix it.

5. The lies we used to tell our children about what made civilization work are now the fables grown-ass adults tell themselves they must abide by in order to keep it working. This is ... not advised.

6. We have convinced ourselves that the way things are is the way things must be. We are incapable of dreaming or thinking big about the things we need to change in order to survive as a species. It is absolutely outside the scope of most people's universes to even consider, for example, post-scarcity economics. This is despite the fact that we actually have the technology to make it work, or the fact that we need to make it work if we're to have any hope.

7. Everyone seems to have a collective sense of impending doom. This is not mass delusion, it's a finely-tuned evolutionary mechanism. The alarms are ringing, but we are just monkeys, so our solution is to screech louder than the alarms until they shut up. This is also a finely-tuned evolutionary mechanism. Nobody said natural selection had any particular preference for intelligence.

8. The kinds of progressives who are currently being laughed out of global politics because of their "crazy ideas"... are not nearly progressive enough to do any good, even if they got everything they asked for. Despite half of the planet being consumed with Hollywood blockbuster entertainment about superheroes and spaceships, it turns out nobody actually has any imagination.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: December 04, 2017, 05:30:17 pm »
I almost think the whole thing is just smoke and mirrors to keep support for Congress from completely collapsing and dragging the GOP's coalition down with it. They're parading around like they just solved world hunger or something (well, not that, since they'd never admit to doing that) despite the fact that the bill is still mired in parliamentary procedures. They've already pleased their base by portraying the Senate bill's success as something that matters, and if the bill does eventually die, they'll let it do so quietly and let their voters keep on thinking something was done.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: December 04, 2017, 12:07:27 am »
Now they'll be emboldened to come up with even more stupid shit to push through Congress while the President is "learning the ropes" (aka admitting crimes on Twitter).

I believe there's at least one more vote the tax plan has to go through before becoming law though, right?

It goes back the House, which means it's as good as passed. The only hope we have that it fails at this point is that some of the TEA Party representatives decide the Senate version doesn't fuck enough poor black people and refuse to support it. But that won't happen because the base is already gung-ho for the "Republican Tax Plan" and will support anything that can be labeled that. The base would support universal income and free healthcare for everyone as long as the people pushing it insulted Obama's mother at the press conference.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Unofficial What are you Reading Thread?
« on: December 02, 2017, 09:42:16 pm »
Oathbringer should have been titled "Things could be worse -- wait, nevermind." But it was alright. Now to wait 4 years for #4. Maybe I'll do the Riyria books next.

I tried to switch gears and take on The American War, about the 2nd American Civil War, but I couldn't cope with the author's cloyingly purple prose and torturously avoiding ending any phrase with a preposition. Shame on me, I know, but I can't help it. Plus, I don't need the overly optimistic assumption that America will stave off collapse until 2074.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: December 02, 2017, 06:27:39 pm »
Well, maybe now that the GOP has passed their horrific tax plan, they'll start wondering whether keeping Trump around is more political risk than it's worth.

LOL jk

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Apple Talk / Re: Open Bar: Free Russian Orphans with Every Purchase
« on: November 24, 2017, 04:56:16 am »
today I learned that my home router's web interface title is a reference to a novel about (among other things) a Nazi V2 rocket with secret technology embedded in it. I'm sure it's just a software dev being funny.


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Principia Discussion / Re: The message board is broken
« on: November 21, 2017, 01:31:07 pm »
There appears to be something wrong with the website, it keeps throwing "untrusted connection" warnings on all of my web browsers and loadig without page styles

What part of this place should be trusted?

You can trust me.
I feel like a crime is going to take place.

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Climate change is a real phenomenon that has been shown repeatedly, scientifically and mathematically, to be caused primarily by human activity.

This is better phrased as "the scientific consensus is agreement that human activity is responsible".

you're bad this.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: AN IMPORTANT POLITICAL CONFESSION
« on: November 20, 2017, 02:39:42 am »
Once again, when presented with the means and opportunity to do so, I did not punch any nazis.

Just because it is never wrong to punch Nazis doesn't mean it is always right to punch Nazis, especially when people depend on you not being in jail.

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Apple Talk / Re: things I will do when I am emperor of the universe
« on: November 20, 2017, 02:38:35 am »
I DEMAND 3D6 MECHANICS AT THE VERY LEAST. THE PROBABILITY SPREAD ON D20 IS BULLSHIT AND YOU KNOW IT.

That's way too complicated for the general public. Maybe for Senate, because nobody really understands what those suits do anyway. Then again, if we keep it to things most people can comprehend, all elections would have to be settled by literal pissing matches. I'll compromise. 2 D6+1D8.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Unofficial What are you Reading Thread?
« on: November 19, 2017, 04:49:53 pm »
Ok, done with all the Cycle of Arawn and Cycle of Galand books. The last one drove me all the way up the wall and back down again 6 times. Robertson insists on spending 3 chapters in a row saying "the party is having a hard time advancing to the next level of skill". To his credit, he manages to do so without repeating the same words in the same order too often, but it's still annoying. Also, he has a tendency to traipse off on rabbit trails in the middle of battle sequences to reiterate recent events or explore the inner philosophical meandering of characters who are about to be sliced into bits by magic or swords. I get the feeling he does it on purpose to force the reader into a sense of impatience and suspense, but that feels like cheating.

ETA: There are parts where it's clearly evident what the protagonists need to do in order to solve some puzzle or problem in order to advance the story, but a third of the book is spent waiting for them to figure it out. That seems to happen more frequently the farther in the series you go, and it's intensely frustrating. Hopefully, Robertson fixes this bug in his program.

Anyway, next is Oathbringer, which looks like it's about 900 pages long so maybe it'll wash enough of the taste of this one out of my brain to let me read the next one when it arrives next spring.

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