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Or Kill Me / Re: Five Blind Men and an Elephant
« on: August 14, 2008, 09:49:54 pm »
I really don't like syncretists. (fixed)

Why not?

One of Christianity's big points is that salvation can only come through God, specifically the form of Jesus of Nazareth.  To try to save yourself without God is essentially denying God.  Buddhism explicitly makes the statement that humans can discover the truth and thereby save themselves, without teachers or gods - and goes so far as to say that gods can't really help with enlightenment.  Syncretists would have you believe that both religions are simultaneously correct, describing different perspectives of the same truth as the various blind men are describing the same elephant.  Similarly, Mohammed was the last prophet... there just happen to be many other prophets (J. Smith, Baha'u'llah) of God who came later.  It's okay in that it doesn't say that any religion is wrong, it just recognizes that the people who say that that religion is wrong are also correct.

It's doublethink and compartmentalization of beliefs at a massive level under the banner of tolerance.

I'm a few posts late for this, but I'd just like to point out that the idea that Christianity demands you be saved "through Jesus" is only one interpretation. When Jesus says "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Light; no man comes to the Father but by me," he could just as easily have been saying "What I am is the way... no man comes to the Father but by being what I am." It's a matter of how you read the language. It sort of works that way in English, and I suspect that interpretation would work even better in whatever language the passage was written in.

As to syncretism - I think all religions are true in that they are similar, and they are similar in that people everywhere are similarly stupid and superstitious.

Also the premise of the OP is completely false: a Discordian would generally not give two shits about charging admission -- we'd leave that to the Subgenii.

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Beyond the wall / The Rev. Loveshade FAN CLUB Thread!
« on: August 14, 2008, 05:45:38 am »

3003
does BGP speak with an accent?

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Vs. Organized Religion
« on: August 10, 2008, 06:28:00 am »
Meanwhile, back at the Original Topic of this thread:

In a general context, I dislike organized religion because it is a drop-in replacement for personality and character. It presents a set of rules that cover, in theory, every single situation you might ever be faced with. It doesn't even try to hide the fact that its purpose is to program you and remove your responsibility and desire to think for yourself. It's also easy to abuse, easy to hijack, and easily gets out of control. It approaches life with a formula, when life is anything but formulaic or predictable. It drives a wedge between you, and anything and anyone you don't already know, effectively castrating your ability to expand your personal horizons. It rewards ignorance and bigotry. It reinforces the Us-vs-Them paradigm in every activity and every situation.

Specifically, the reason that is all bad as far as I'm concerned is because I have watched organized religion become the root cause of a lot of unnecessary suffering in the people surrounding me throughout my life. It robbed my cousin of his sense of humor, leaving instead an impenetrable cloud of self-loathing and guilt. It infected my father with a chronic lack of ambition and motivation. It has put strain on relationships that have no business being strained. Worst of all, it drove me to literally kill my grandmother, the closest friend I had until I met my wife.

Organized religion has no place in a modern society if that society wants to outgrow the tribalism and separatism that continues to define the Human race long after we have any real evolutionary need for such views.

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BGP found Jesus, so of course he sounds different. Having eternal joy makes you different.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: OFFICIAL POLITICAL CARTOONS/PIC FREAD.
« on: August 10, 2008, 05:06:52 am »
that's exactly what they mean by "Liberty and Justice for All"

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Beyond the wall / Re: ITT: You find LSD
« on: August 06, 2008, 01:57:06 pm »
i'm sure it happens, but its occurrence is probably lower than people who have severe/fatal reactions to legal prescription medication.

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Beyond the wall / Re: ITT: You find LSD
« on: August 06, 2008, 05:58:18 am »
sometimes they also show up because they were picked up at the local post office overturning trash cans and setting garbage on fire.

just saying.

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Beyond the wall / Re: ITT: You find LSD
« on: August 06, 2008, 05:21:51 am »
speaking as a person who at one time had a very long and intense affair with LSD, i can say that the "flashbacks" are much exaggerated. they happen, but it isn't like falling into a random 8-hour trip all over again. also, i'm pretty sure neither of my children were born with any defects, physical or otherwise. as for long-term "effects," i think what they mean is that by taking LSD repeatedly and with the intent to expand your perception, you have a higher risk of not falling for their bullshit all the time, which is a problem, but not for the user.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: OFFICIAL POLITICAL CARTOONS/PIC FREAD.
« on: August 05, 2008, 11:36:32 pm »

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Beyond the wall / Re: ITT: You find LSD
« on: August 05, 2008, 06:22:25 am »
i have kids man, why do you have to bring up LSD? you're tempting me to throw it all away!

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GASM Command / Re: POSTERGASM: Calvin Ball Edition
« on: August 04, 2008, 11:38:35 pm »
jesus, i must have been tired when i made those. i'll fix tonight if i get a chance.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Political Steam Blowing
« on: August 04, 2008, 11:36:24 pm »
TGRR, I apologise.  It seems you have an issue with my opinion, i can only prostrate myself at your feet and beg for mercy.  Maybe your 1 of the touchy americans i mentioned or maybe its something else, i don't know where you live.  I have no proof for any of my opinions, the things i can prove are what i like to call facts. I AM SO IMPRESSED WITH YOU - WILL YOU BE MY FRIEND.

Compared with the other 500 people I've seen try to tell Roger off, this rates about a 1.5 out of 10.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Political Steam Blowing
« on: August 03, 2008, 09:21:34 pm »
if he took too active a stance against racism, he could easily painted as a crusader against white people, too.

i don't think electing obama would immediately remove racism as a factor in american society, but it could point to the fact that race is no longer the ultimate issue for many people -- that there are people who, while maintaining racist views, are able to see that the issue of race is of a lower priority than other societal problems like the economy, the war, etc.

but my assumption for now is still that there are some lines Americans won't cross under any circumstances, race being one of them.

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