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High Weirdness / Re: ITT Mandela Effect fuckery biblical or otherwise
« on: July 02, 2017, 05:40:58 pm »
I don't know if this qualifies (probably not), but I remember as a kid in the late 80s/early 90s playing these "choose your own adventure" games via telephone hotlines. I was curious one day and decided to look them up online, but they're not mentioned anywhere I can find them (or my google-fu is poor) except on one forum post somewhere with no replies. Maybe the Time Lords cancelled their existence.

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High Weirdness / Re: ITT Mandela Effect fuckery biblical or otherwise
« on: July 02, 2017, 05:24:39 pm »
Are there any even remotely plausible explanations for the phenomenon that veer into Weird territory? I've heard the LHC one, and time travel, but really the LHC thing is silly because the effects of those experiments are scientifically unsurprising even when they produce new information. I mean it isn't like they've discovered gigantic holes in the standard or relativistic models or there's some kind of "might puncture the spacetime continuum" warning from anyone other than nutters on Reddit.

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High Weirdness / Re: ITT Mandela Effect fuckery biblical or otherwise
« on: July 02, 2017, 04:35:45 pm »
I remember Winston having a much larger role in Ghostbusters than he actually does in either movie, but I think it's because I watched the cartoon version a lot as a kid. But I never paid that much attention to the behind the scenes stuff.

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High Weirdness / Re: ITT Mandela Effect fuckery biblical or otherwise
« on: July 02, 2017, 09:15:04 am »
I may be wrong but I think the Lord's Prayer example results from differences between the KJV translation and the traditional Catholic recital, which is heard more often in popular culture.

The rest of it is definitely due to time travelers or the Large Hadron Collider, though.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: ITT: Confess your WOO!
« on: July 02, 2017, 05:49:04 am »
"judge not lest ye be judged" is actually "judge not that ye be not judged"
"The lion shall lay down with the lamb" is actually "the wolf shall lay down with the lamb"
bottles/wineskins confusion
Etc

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: ITT: Confess your WOO!
« on: July 01, 2017, 07:32:26 pm »
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/77341766/&ved=0ahUKEwin8pis0-jUAhWFOz4KHY9IB1AQFggsMAE&usg=AFQjCNEkQxsPlf5n1x57kCOGbXVBCydLlQ

That's no big deal. I mean, so what. So what if everything I ever thought I knew is a lie and nothing has any meaning anymore? It's par for the course in this decade.

Honestly I don't know what to make of the Mandela Effect. I can see how some details can be easily overlooked and filled in by the human brain with what seems like logical stuff. I'm sure that most of it is the result of our ability to fill in the gaps in perception automatically, combined with generally fuzzy memories and some bandwagon-itis. But sometimes a bit of it, or a similar phenomenon, will strike me as a little too weird or on-the-nose. I usually ignore that though because as I've said before, the central tenet of my cosmological system is that the universe is boring and nothing exciting ever happens.

I'm 100% on board with the lost civilization thing, though. Even if it's BS, it doesn't hurt anything to believe it. We are postmodern after all, and reality is helpless to define itself without us. Might as well make it interesting.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: ITT: Confess your WOO!
« on: July 01, 2017, 06:50:48 pm »
Wait what silver leg? C3PO has 2 golden legs, there's no silver leg.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: July 01, 2017, 05:12:07 pm »
Most presidents end up being out of touch with something, but never before has a president managed to be out of touch with literally everything and everyone, including himself.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: July 01, 2017, 02:26:40 pm »
The WH is allegedly mulling more strikes in Syria and possibly attacks on Iran.

As I'm sure you recall, the last bombing of Syria and Afghanistan led to nearly orgasmic praise from the press.  It was actually disgusting to watch.

Iran?

Jesus H Christ.  It's like having monkeys specifically trained to brake hard on the freeway.

"I heard Obama was pro-Westphalia, so I'm, like, really really anti-Westphalia and everything that goes along with that -- which is really bad, by the way, so bad -- because I'm, you know, much smarter and more statesmanlike."

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: ITT: Confess your WOO!
« on: June 30, 2017, 07:31:40 pm »
I find it ironic that the simulation hypothesis implies a creator and is, therefore, not compatible with atheism

I suppose they get past that by not defining the programmer as a god, which, really is just moving the goal posts. The end result is the same. Some entity outside our universe created this one.

Personally, I don't so much disbelieve in God as I reject God. If there were some programmer out there responsible for children suffering through worms eating their eyes, yeah fuck that guy too. It doesn't matter who is creating the misery, it's that misery is being intentionally created. If that's moving goalposts, then get me a wrench, I've got some goalposts to move.

Aw but come on man, what about beautiful sunsets and your team winning the Super Bowl sometimes? Surely that makes up for a few million dead foreign kids.

Seriously tho, I think if there is any power outside the universe responsible for our existence, it has to be either entirely accidental and natural (or whatever word means 'natural' on a scale that big), or only vaguely intentional and experimental with almost no ability to perceive the daily lives of creatures inside the simulation.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Look both ways before you cross
« on: June 30, 2017, 05:18:24 pm »
Also, can we talk about Islam? All the Abrahamic religions are religions of hate! That's what Abrahamic religion is about! Islam is not an exception! I understand that most actual Muslims are good people, but like Christians and Jews they're good despite their religion, not because of it. They're good because they ignore 90% of what the book has to say just like your everyday Christians and Jews who ignore most of the bible. Why is it ok to shit on Christianity but not on Islam? How is the bible belt worse than the middle east? The bible belt is phenomenally horrendously shitty, but the middle east is shit, and in a perfect world they would both disappear. I get that sometimes it's fundie christians saying it and that they really ought to remove the beam from their own eye first, but it's still accurate.

Centering your argument around religion is the problem. There is no possible future where humanity has completely abandoned ridiculous superstition, so it's only prudent to treat religion as a given. Rather than complain that Christians/Jews/Muslims adhere to a violent and hateful religion, we should emphasize the (many) exceptions to that rule as the enlightened/civilized way to practice those religions. Attacking Islam itself grants sanctuary, however limited or momentary, to the Christian bigot who thinks Islam is a religion of hate and violence. The same goes for attacking Christianity and Judaism. What we should be doing, in my opinion, is to loudly recognize that the source of strife in these areas is not really the religion, but the extremist interpretations of the religion used by political and economic powers for decidedly un-religious purposes.

Islam is not the problem, and neither is Christianity or Judaism. The problem is extremism, which turns out more or less exactly the same in all cases. The only reason we don't have Westboro Baptists running around beheading infidels is because we have a strong secular state that would put an end to that pretty fast. But attacking that sort of violence as some kind of inevitable result of religion only makes it worse.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Look both ways before you cross
« on: June 30, 2017, 03:17:30 pm »
Worrying about immigrants draining the welfare half of us don't even want to give to natives is sort of a silly argument anyway. It's always a shallow argument, like trying to outlaw abortion "because murder" while also doing your best to make life hell for the resulting children.

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idk what you guys are so worried about. the market will sort this all out. dead tenants don't pay rent, it's bad for business.

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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: ITT: Confess your WOO!
« on: June 29, 2017, 07:02:30 am »
The universe is a strange but ultimately dull place. I refuse to accept strict materialism as a complete theory to explain everything, but not because there is any particularly convincing evidence to the contrary. I just can't bear admitting there s no real magic anywhere.

It's like the discussion about the "morality" of colonizing other worlds. According to the pencil-pushing autocracy of science, the question is moot because we'll never make it outside our own star system anyway. I can't see the value in bothering to exist as a species at all if these few lumps of rock are all we'll ever have. I think the human spirit requires some degree of belief in our ability to achieve the impossible. Without that, we lose a lot of motivation.

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clicked it. don't care.

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