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Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 03, 2017, 03:23:18 am »
The fact that I now look back on the W years as a time of unspoiled, naive innocence says a lot. Granted, I can only do that because of a certain melanin content in my skin and because I was not the direct target of the more sinister forces at work during W's reign of incompetence, but it's still surreal to go from what I thought was a disaster, to the relatively boring Obama years, to... whatever the fuck this is.

Here's the thing: Obama normalised the idiocy of Bush. When you can accept a smiling guy telling you that gitmo will continue then it becomes easier to accept an idiot shouting that it's not far enough. Drone use is frequent enough now to be unremarkable. Bet that changes with a few fuckups over the next couple of months.

This is totally true. But I'm also aware that the presidency is not the supreme power that many people assume it is. There are so many forces with so much power contending for the opportunity to wield the presidential pen that the force of any one person's will can only do so much at that level. Guantanamo should have been closed and, legally, I'm sure that Obama could have forced the issue if he had wanted to. As Commander in Chief I'm not convinced that power was not safely within his authority to do. And 2008 Obama certainly did want to do it. So why didn't he? There's more to that story than "man corrupted by Washington swamp". There are people, organizations, and just realities that presidents contend with that undermine oversimplistic ideas about the "corrupting influence" of power and influence (though those do certainly corrupt).

What I was getting at with that comment though is how odd a feeling it is to go from despising that accidental "shadow government" (no, not the Illuminati, but the hidden intersection of so many opposing strategies, bureaucracies, and agendas) to having to hope it is powerful enough to stymie a madman like Trump and thwart his administration's overtly Fascist intentions.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 03, 2017, 02:02:06 am »
The fact that I now look back on the W years as a time of unspoiled, naive innocence says a lot. Granted, I can only do that because of a certain melanin content in my skin and because I was not the direct target of the more sinister forces at work during W's reign of incompetence, but it's still surreal to go from what I thought was a disaster, to the relatively boring Obama years, to... whatever the fuck this is.

Principia Discussion / Re: is Discordianism alt right? I'm confused
« on: March 02, 2017, 08:39:20 pm »
IPunchNazis is a rather one dimensional person, isn't they?

"person" is a strong word here.

Or Kill Me / Re: Sinners in the Hands of an Indifferent Universe
« on: March 02, 2017, 02:12:01 pm »
This is good. It's even better if you read it in Han Solo's voice.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 02, 2017, 05:52:16 am »
Looks like Sessions perjured himself by lying under oath that he had contact with the Russian government during the election campaign.

Kislyak must be feeling awfully slighted by now.  All these conversations people have had with him, that they later on say they cannot recall.  Quite upsetting.

Yes, and I'm sure he'll have a sudden bout of integrity and resign. Any minute now.

Principia Discussion / Re: Me and my questions
« on: March 01, 2017, 02:29:44 pm »
Hi, new person.

Okay, first of all, you can ignore everything said so far in this thread. Every last one of these people is a known apostate and is in fact only here because they heard about the prize money for the Best Discordian award ten years ago and they're still looking for it.

I, on the other hand, am a certified and ordained Discordian Minister. And I can tell you that being a Discordian is a long and arduous journey full of pitfalls, false starts, bad information, hokey TV reruns, boring jokes, and yes, lots and lots of drugs.

The first thing you should do if you really want to succeed on this forum or anywhere in life is to find an opinion somewhere and belligerently argue against it. It doesn't matter if you're an expert or not. Everyone can be an expert in anything. All it takes is sincere belief and thick skin.

Second, you should do lots of drugs and tell us about your experiences on them. Try to use common words like "colorful" and "trippy". Don't connect your experience to the real world in any way, though. We are nothing if not disinterested in current events and ideas.

Third, and this is probably the most important objective, is to constantly talk in meaningless riddles and koans. Phrase every post as a haiku of you can manage it. Whenever you see someone being too serious, remind them of the Discordian imperative to be silly all the time.

By doing these things you will learn very quickly what Discordianism is all about, I promise.

We clearly have protection as a religious organization, anyway.

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Talking to Nigel
« on: February 28, 2017, 10:24:26 pm »
"Science" dumbed down for the masses isn't science anymore. People do need something easy to follow, that takes little effort and gives them someone to feel superior to. It's just that there is no such thing that is also non-destructive and effective. The best we can hope for is all-out nuclear war, which is at least non-destructive after a few million years.

Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Talking to Nigel
« on: February 28, 2017, 04:49:52 pm »
To illustrate my point about humans being not that much smarter than dogs, try having this conversation with some random members of the general public, and see how many respond with "I don't care about benefits to society, I care about me and mine".  They don't fail to make the connection between society and themselves because there's some mysterious disconnect, they're really just that fucking stupid.

OGODTHISTHISTHISTHIS.  It's probably the single most frustrating thing I encounter when I meet someone who's smart enough to be clever, but dumb enough not to see the common connections.  They twist themselves into knots trying to rationalize their selfishness, and throw up massive defenses to protect their core flawed premise.

It's unbelievably frustrating. And depressing. You know what we would have accomplished if we were solitary rather than social creatures?

NOTHING. We would be cats.

Social is awesome up to a point but the problem is it doesn't seem to work at the kind of scale we're trying to pull off. Couple of hundred people is a force to be reckoned with. Couple of billion is a total clusterfuck. Somewhere between a couple of hundred and a couple of billion the whole thing falls to pieces. Collectively we're not smart enough to make it work. Maybe it's Dunbar's fault, maybe there's more to it.

IQ is on a distribution curve with most falling slap bang in the middle of dumbfuckistan. A couple of smart people can wrangle a couple of hundred dumbfucks between them, just the way nature intended. Too many dumb fucks, tho and a critical mass is reached. Societal meltdown is inevitable. Factor in the lack of life skills and interdependence that comes with modern civilisation and you have massive potential for lulz but very little for any kind of progress.

I think the human race has hit an upper bound of functionality and the most likely outcome is we all die, crushed by the weight of our own collective stupidity. Democracy is at fault - allowing stupid people (the majority) to vote means you will get the worst possible decision to every question posed, every fucking time. The alternative is fascism which seems to result in the execution of millions of dumbfucks every time it's attempted. Communism? Nope. Again the dumbfuck issue wrecks that one.

I really can't think of anything useful I can do at this point beyond staying well out the way whenever there's a large gathering of dumbfucks. It's working out fine for me so far but I'm under no illusions that eventually the breathable air and the drinkable water will be gone.

Either that or somebody takes over at the eleventh hour and pulls humanity out it's nosedive. Wish I had an idea but on the bell curve I'm at the point where I'm smart enough to see the big picture but too dumb to come up with a solution.

There are alternative social organization plans that would mitigate the problem, and even benefit from the incompatibility between ideologies that is tearing our society apart. The problem is that all of these schemes would require the support of billions of people who will never understand why they are better than the nation-state model, and wouldn't be able to comprehend the systems for distributing goods and services well enough to be productive. This, to me, is the most tragic thing about the state of human civilization in the 21st century: There are solutions, we haven't hit some upper limit on physical possibilities, but those solutions will never be implemented because people in general are too dumb to understand them, and we'll never get the kind of critical mass required to push them into fruition.

Honestly I'm about as optimistic as you are. I can only hope that we manage to go out with a light show that's fun to watch until the blast waves hit.

Religion, it turns out, is dying. In the last hundred years or so, it has been stabbed countless times by the relentless march of scientific inquiry, which has drained our ancient religions of all their mystery. There are no real questions left to ask, you see, because as soon as you ask a religious question you find out there has already been sixteen studies from Harvard that answered it three years ago.

As science rolls on, telling us why the Sun moves across the sky, where the summertime goes and why it comes back, and all manner of celestial mysteries, the serious student of spirituality is pushed farther and farther to the extremes of human experience. The religious seeker must content herself with answering the Really Big Questions, like "Is there life after death?" or "Why do bad things happen to good people?" or "What is the meaning of life?"

But historically, those questions were never the bread and butter of our religious lives. Sure, they were always there, forming the foundations of our religions, promising to comfort us at funerals and give monks something to think about all day while they toiled.  But those were not the religious questions that got us through the day. They didn't tell us when to plant the crops or when to harvest them. They didn't tell us how to make sure Summer would return after it vanished every Autumn.

Most of us never really cared about the Big Questions anyway. For most of humanity, religion was a simple, paint-by-numbers affair. You put in a quarter, you get a gumball. That's how it worked. Our ideas of morality were practically cartoons. But that's all gone now, replaced with the indifferent drone of cold, soulless science.

Could it be that millions of people who had been content to live their lives with the shallow and cartoonish ideas about the universe, robbed of the safe spaces of their mindless faith by a scientific age that only undermines the need and moral justification for religion, find themselves completely disconnected and confused, unable to function in a world where they can no longer just get away with painting by numbers? Are these Weird Times the result, at least in part, of a backlash by people who no longer have any identity, whose entire world is being continually invalidated by empirical evidence and real science? Of course, this is a truism. Our technological and social progress have so disrupted the ideological status quo of human civilization that half of us no longer feel tethered to anything. Not to common decency, not to charity, not to compassion, not to equality, not to anything. They have been set adrift, and are doing everything they can do to rebuild the world they feel they have lost.

This, I believe, is why they are immune to logic and impervious to facts. The act of following facts and logic is what got them to where they are to begin with, and they have resolved to undo that damage precisely by abandoning facts and logic. The world is too complex. There are too many variables. There are too many unseen forces outside of their control. There is too much to understand, too much history, too many words, too many different ideas, too many different people. It drives them mad. They can't think with all this progress going on. What happened to Sunday afternoons goddammit, what happened to drive in theaters, what happened to everything? It's all because of the facts and the logic and the respect, they figure. It all started with all those people who weren't satisfied like they were. The troublemakers. And now they've got to fix it, by God. They've got to Make America Great Again.

So it seems to me that trying to convince them out of that mindset can only make the problem worse. What they need is not a better understanding. They've already shown that any such understanding cannot help but to elude them. Whether they're too angry to understand, or too set in their ways, or just too dumb, it doesn't matter. They won't get it. So what will they get? What can they understand? What they need is something simple and straightforward. Something old-fashioned, familiar, and definite. A New Religion.

And what might this religion look like? It's got to be easy to recognize. It's got to draw a crowd. It has to have God in it, somewhere. It has to have a simple story that can repeat itself in the life of every believer. It has to be something they can share at the dinner table. There needs to be a struggle in it, a winner and a loser.

And I think... I think I have just the answer. It's not new -- not really -- it's based on an ancient tradition. It isn't a revolution (that's a good thing, remember). It's quick to pick up. Like all great arts, it's simple to learn but it takes a lifetime to master. It can be expressed in simple pictures and paragraphs much, much shorter than these. It's a revealed wisdom, handed down from ancient and learned generations of old. There is prayer. There is a sacrament. And it will definitely piss off the Devil. And you don't have to pay tithes!

So what is it? It's easy.

I call it the Holy Ancient Order of Punching a Goddamn Nazi in the Face.

Techmology and Scientism / Re: Anyone help me fix my bash script?
« on: February 27, 2017, 09:57:40 pm »
it's sort of black magic to me too, it's just bit me a few times before so i remember it. I'm pretty sure it's because when you pipe a stream to a loop like that, the loop can't know ahead of time how much data there is so it has to set up a subshell to process the lines as they come in. but when you do the whole 'cat' operation in its own subshell and then redirect it into the loop, there's a known quantity that can be iterated over. i'm probably wrong about that but whatevs.

Richard Nixon's glittering half-life sarcophagus / Re: Opinion time!
« on: February 27, 2017, 08:28:55 pm »
Looks like it's supposed to look like the parental advisory stickers they put on CDs.

Techmology and Scientism / Re: Anyone help me fix my bash script?
« on: February 27, 2017, 03:41:37 pm »
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sanitizeHTML() {
while read LINE; do
  IFS=';' read FROM TO <<< "$LINE"
  while [[ $OUTSTRING =~ (.*)$MATCH(.*) ]]; do
done < <(cat html_entities.csv)

sanitizeHTML "Fremdsprachige B&uuml;cher"

explanation: just put "cat html_entitiies" in its own process substitution subshell and redirect it into the while loop, rather than piping it in at the beginning. This gives the loop all the data it needs at the beginning without having to re-execute for every line in the stream (and thus creating a subshell to deal with the input of unknown length).

Techmology and Scientism / Re: Anyone help me fix my bash script?
« on: February 27, 2017, 03:23:12 pm »
In Bash, while loops are executed in a subshell which has a different variable scope than the main script. So any variables you set (or "change") inside the while loop will be lost when the loop exits. To avoid that you need to use command substitution to change the input to the while loop

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i put code here but it was wrong

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