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Good, I hope she grades this one kindly or gives you a chance to revise.

I'm currently reviewing Mol bio slides in preparation for tomorrow's midterm. I feel like everyone else is much more stressed about it than I am, which makes me worried that I'm grossly overestimating my preparedness.

ETERNAL MIDTERMLAND IS UPON US.

I have a mock collection policy due on Wednesday for my Museum Studies class, and I have no idea where to start. He wasn't terribly helpful but he's not looking for massive amounts of pages. I'll do it tomorrow. I'm way too into the Hadrian's Wall course tonight to stop.

Yeah, I apparently have one to two midterms per week for the rest of the term.  :lol:

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I think I might be onto something, it's getting easier to notice when I'm being patronising, at least when it's pointed out. Thanks for the reading material, and yes, it's my fault. I never intended to claim Newtonian mechanics got 'shitcanned', I understand about it being a limit case of GR, but I completely failed to take into account that the state of play may have changed significantly and that even 30 years ago, it may have been more complex than my rather classy high school physics, or the philosophy of science courses I took let on. All of that was quite stupid, and there may well be more stupid to come, Rome wasn't demolished in a day! Question: what's your take on Thomas Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions? Also, split this off by all means if it's in the wrong place. I'm sorry to say I will be back.

Well, this is a significant improvement. Congratulations again.

I haven't read Kuhn, and probably won't anytime soon, given my school-related reading list. Maybe someone else here has?

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Good, I hope she grades this one kindly or gives you a chance to revise.

I'm currently reviewing Mol bio slides in preparation for tomorrow's midterm. I feel like everyone else is much more stressed about it than I am, which makes me worried that I'm grossly overestimating my preparedness.

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Ouija boards allow people who can't spell to speak with spirits that also can't spell.

Which I think is awesome.

 :lulz:

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 I am deeply ashamed.  :lulz:

For some reasons which I can't put my finger on, I find myself in doubt of your sincerity.

I am a bad, bad man.

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I love phrases like "please don't take this as an insult to your intelligence, but...

BUT

BUT

 :lulz: BUT it totally is, because now I will quote from a Wikipedia article a sentence that I assume you haven't read or don't understand, little lady.

 :lulz:

You should stop being so NIGEL when a man hollers science at you.  It's not HIS fault he's wrong, and you make his wee-wee shrivel up when you go all NIGEL and get uppity.  He's just trying to explain things in terms you little ladies will understand, see?  Small words, enunciated slowly.  And then you NIGELed him with some facts that were less than convenient.  Is it any wonder he lives in a garrett and never shaves?  It's because of YOU.  All of you.  Every last NIGEL.

 I am deeply ashamed.  :lulz:

And on that note, I am off to go cram some more electron behavior into my wee little lady brain.

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Something about this whole discussion is harkening me back to that time when Holist was arguing with Cain over the correct phrasing and meaning of a common English turn of phrase. His argument appeared to be something along the lines of "I speak English as a second language, but I have been translating the English language for a living for so long that I know it better than you highly educated native English-speakers".

Likewise, this thing where he is insisting that he, as a philosophy major who has read a lot of articles on the internet, has a better understanding of the relationship of Newtonian physics to relativistic mechanics than people who have backgrounds and training in science and engineering, seems similarly mind-boggling.

Oh, Holist.

If it's any comfort, I have a lawyer friend who does much the same thing. He'll make outlandish claims about subjects he only poorly understands, and then digs in and refuses to believe that anyone else knows more about them than he does. After 25 years of dealing with this, I realize that he is beyond hope, and no longer bother pointing it out or arguing with him about it. I should probably apply that wisdom to Holist as well.

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That sounds way less stupid, right?

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I may be missing a something about the homeopathy theory, but I can't see how this would work even assuming the validity of that theory.

So you put a thing in some water that has some property that's supposed to be beneficial for some ailment. Then you dilute that solution down until the beneficial thing is...well...nothing, and the solution is pretty much water, but water that contains the "essence" of whatever the beneficial thing was.

Putting aside the  :roll: and assuming that the practice actually works that way, wouldn't we still have to have a thing that actually did something to the Ebola virus before we could disappear that thing and allow its ghost to go right on killing the virus?

Ah, but the critical kernel of the homeopathic hypothesis is that you dilute something that causes the same symptoms as that which you are trying to cure. So first we would need to find something that causes hemorrhagic fever, and THEN we would dilute it down to nothing and it would cure ebola.

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I love phrases like "please don't take this as an insult to your intelligence, but...

BUT

BUT

 :lulz: BUT it totally is, because now I will quote from a Wikipedia article a sentence that I assume you haven't read or don't understand, little lady.

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Holist, although I have not yet read it, I have also heard that LMNO's dad's book is reasonably accessible for novices and laypersons: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1107004837/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A84IVOA24OI3N

I found this one enjoyable: http://www.amazon.com/Quantum-World-Physics-Everyone/dp/067401832X/

While I am aware that there are segments of academia that place great importance on primary sources, in the sciences it's very important to look not merely at a crystallized moment in the history of our understanding, but at the current state of the research, in order to understand how everything we currently know is tried together. As I mentioned before, it is exceedingly rare for an old and well-tested theory to simply be invalidated by new discoveries; rather, usually the new discoveries and new understanding modify and add to the previous understanding.

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I started to write up something about general relativity and how it relates to Newtonian physics, and how classical mechanics is just a limited case of general relativity, but then I realized how useless that would be.  Pearls, swine, etc.

The book I linked to, which is essentially the story of Einstein's once-rejected Cosmological Constant, explains the history of non-euclidean geometry and the relationship of Einstein's Theory of General Relativity with Newtonian mechanics in detail, in layman's terms, but I think this is another case of classic Dunning-Kruger Syndrome, in which the victim cannot grasp that is is the limits of his own knowledge that is the major contributor to the disjunct, rather than the ignorance of his conversational partners.

I think that's a much bigger problem in the world at large, than most people are willing to admit.

In fact, one might say this conversation is the micro to the world's macro.

Cough.

 :lol: Well-played, sir.

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I started to write up something about general relativity and how it relates to Newtonian physics, and how classical mechanics is just a limited case of general relativity, but then I realized how useless that would be.  Pearls, swine, etc.

The book I linked to, which is essentially the story of Einstein's once-rejected Cosmological Constant, explains the history of non-euclidean geometry and the relationship of Einstein's Theory of General Relativity with Newtonian mechanics in detail, in layman's terms, but I think this is another case of classic Dunning-Kruger Syndrome, in which the victim cannot grasp that is is the limits of his own knowledge that is the major contributor to the disjunct, rather than the ignorance of his conversational partners.

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I would be more impressed if you just admitted that you don't really know what you're on about. Here is a book I suspect you might enjoy or find helpful: http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Equation-Einstein-Relativity-Expanding/dp/0385334850/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1413789647&sr=8-6&keywords=God%27s+theorem

Please don't take this as an insult to your intelligence, but I am going to quote from Wikipedia:

"A discrepancy in Mercury's orbit pointed out flaws in Newton's theory. By the end of the 19th century, it was known that its orbit showed slight perturbations that could not be accounted for entirely under Newton's theory, but all searches for another perturbing body (such as a planet orbiting the Sun even closer than Mercury) had been fruitless. The issue was resolved in 1915 by Albert Einstein's new theory of general relativity, which accounted for the small discrepancy in Mercury's orbit.

Although Newton's theory has been superseded, most modern non-relativistic gravitational calculations are still made using Newton's theory because it is a much simpler theory to work with than general relativity, and gives sufficiently accurate results for most applications involving sufficiently small masses, speeds and energies."

This is basically the story I remembered from about 29 to 27 years ago. I screwed up, the anomalies with Newton's theory were not resolved by special but by general relativity, which indicates that my knowledge is superficial in the field. But it seems that the basic statement (Newtonian Mechanics fails at macroscopic levels at relativistic speeds) holds true.

Please don't take this as an insult to your intelligence, but you have so little education in this field that you are completely unable to interpret the words you are parroting.

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