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Bumping because this thread is suddenly relevant to another conversation I'm having, and I want to add to it.

Note that I'm not saying that classism isn't a real problem. It's a real problem and a huge one. I am simply saying that there are and always have been a lot of people both in the Democratic Party and in other coalitions on the Left that use classism as a fulcrum point that allows them to deny and ignore women's issues and racial issues so they never have to confront their own sexist and racist attitudes, or acknowledge them in others.


We've started eating meals, almost exclusively, with ingredients we can pronounce and understand. This and the aforementioned sugar avoidance make a big difference! We're both already looking and "feeling" lighter and more energetic.

Better not take Organic Chemistry.

I have spent way too much time dealing with and touching a dead guy's balls today. I have a feeling the next class is also going to demand a lot of guided tours through his balls.

I'm grading quizzes and holy shit I have no idea what happened while I was gone, but apparently it wasn't learning digestive anatomy. At all.

As an aspiring artist with a penchant for zombies, learning digestive anatomy is totally on my todo list :lulz:

The hard part is the dissection. They didn't even have to DO it; just LOOK at it. I am taking it from their quiz scores that they did not.

Maybe not so much "new" as "you're a prophet, and a lot of people are only catching up now and see the way this behavior can fracture a voting bloc"

Hahaha, OK, I can accept that.

The Democratic party has always been full of sanctimonious, lefter-than-you closet racists and socialist ponytail misogynists, from my perspective, but I guess they didn't start feeling safe about being totally open about it until the "alt-right" started openly supporting the KKK, thereby upping the ante.

Did you know that the (non-chartered so most of the voting ones register Democrat) Socialist Party's official party line in Oregon is (and has been for several years) that there is no institutionalized misogyny? That's right... sexism and racism aren't real problems, but mere byproducts of the Real Problem™, classism.

That's basically who we're dealing with.

Principia Discussion / Re: List of Discordian books
« on: Today at 12:49:19 am »
I like your logo.
Thank you. It isn't 100% done yet, though. Like the rest of the page. XD

I am super interested in this and will definitely use the link, provided that you can assure me that Reverend Loveshade is not affiliated with this project.
Currently, there are only two people (including myself) working on this thing, and as far as I know, none of them is any Loveshade.


Ok, without my former glibness, my main problem with the JDs isn't that they're criticizing the Dems from the Left.  I think the Dems are too centrist, and too willing to concede to the right without fighting.  A strong progressive force pulling Left would be beneficial, IMO.

My problem is they seem to be attacking more than persuading, using the same tactics (and often, the same arguments) that the Right uses.  I simply don't feel that's an effective way to go.

So, to sum up:

There are quite a few power-tripping, insult-flinging, narrow-minded, insular, total shit people in the Democratic party.

That is a completely legitimate observation, but my question here is, how is this new? I feel like last year around this time I was being lambasted for daring to point this out.

I'm grading quizzes and holy shit I have no idea what happened while I was gone, but apparently it wasn't learning digestive anatomy. At all.

I know the JD are not a political party, though they are a little more organized and intentional than most of the Tea Party was in 2009/2010. I also know that there are serious corpocratic tendencies in the Democratic Party that are legitimate problems that need legitimate solutions. But the JD are an outgrowth of the "Never Hillary" Berniebots who sat out the last election or tossed their votes uselessly to a 3rd-party candidate knowing full well the result this would have. It isn't that there aren't enough resources or reasons to fight more than one fight at a time, it's that this fight is one whose outcome we have already seen and are already living with. It's also one more area that has been touched by the scourge of fanatical extremism, one more coalition threatened with extinction because it has become self-aware and self-loathing.

Democratic fractionalization isn't just a narrative, it's a reality that cost us an election that should have been easy. It illustrates that the Democratic Party's coalition is absolutely essential. It doesn't win elections without internal integrity and compromise. When it frays and falls apart, America still has a core of white nationalism big enough to pick up the pieces, of which I am sure you are more acutely aware than I am. Of course we have to keep having dialogue and even disagreement within the coalition, but we can't afford another election where we turn on each other and refuse to come together for the common good.

The kind of language employed by the Justice Democrats picks up where the sneering condescension left off in 2016 and will only get worse as we approach the midterms of 2018. I can't see that resulting in anything other than a whole ticket full of microcosmic reproductions of the Clinton/Sanders primary, splitting the Democrats' votes and in many cases allowing whatever passes for Republican after their next primary a clear shot at general elections. If the JD can manage to push the Democrats farther left, I'd be thrilled. But more likely, they'll just discourage moderates from bothering at all.

I think I partially agree with you, but for a completely different reason. If the Justice Democrats is indeed a coalition of Bernie Bros, it will become clear by the next election that the underlying issues behind the lack of cohesion of the Democratic platform are institutionalized misogyny and racism.

I don't think we are going to unite white progressives on matters of racial equity, because a good size chunk of white progressives are closet racists who already think that everything is fine and black people are just whining for special privileges and playing victims. I don't think we are going to unite white OR black Democrats on matters of sex equity like access to reproductive health care and equal pay, because most black Democrats are too conservative and both are still deeply, unconsciously entrenched in the kind of unconscious patriarchal ideology that leads to peer reviewers finding equally productive woman scientists 1/3 less qualified than their male counterparts.

I also think you profoundly underestimate the degree to which plain old-fashioned ingrained patriarchal misogyny, along with well-orchestrated gerrymandering, cost the Democrats the election last year. Even keeping in mind that Clinton won the popular election with a greater voter turnout than any male politician ever other than Obama, it is also statistically clear that a large number of white Democrats opted to vote for Trump, which should tell us more than just that the "emails" campaign worked.

I think you have a really great story, I just don't think it's a story that is supported by facts.

I have no problem with disagreement; I just really want disagreement to be to the very high standard of which I know you are capable. That way, if I am wrong I know it beyond a shadow of a doubt, and also I will understand why, and vise versa.

I think that the Democratic fractionalization narrative worked very well for the Republican party in this last election, which is ironic if only because they are an absolute shitmess of a party, as parties go.


This is great. I love it as an antidote to all the fucking edginess.

I really want to try to make Elote, Mormon Style. I keep thinking about it ever since Cram posted that cartoon. It would be:
2 lbs frozen shredded hash brown potatoes
1 lb frozen corn
1 cup mayonnaise
1 cup sour cream
1 can condensed cream of chicken soup
1 bunch chopped green onions
1 lb shredded cheddar cheese

Mix together and spoon into baking pan. Top with:

1-1/2 cups crushed corn flakes
1/2 lb coteja cheese crumbles
Sprinkle of chile y limon

Bake at 350 degrees for 1 hour. Serve hot.

I made this and it was really good. I think next time I will double the onions, mix the coteja in, and reduce baking time to 45 minutes.

Richard Nixon's glittering half-life sarcophagus / Re: Spagbook
« on: May 24, 2017, 10:28:46 pm »
More pics from the hike: one is us, one is what we're looking at.

Willamette Cove, AKA Pirate's Cove, one of my favorite hidden spots in Portland proper.

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