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Apple Zone / Re: Things I hate

« on: November 12, 2009, 02:32:18 am »

Is that one of Enki's pics? Because I have his server blocked. 

I guess it is.  I just took one of the sigils at random.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Suu's typical rant on how you should properly tip your waitstaff.

« on: November 12, 2009, 02:31:18 am »

Garbage men, now do you pay them for your curbside pickup, because wherever I've lived it's just been a city service.  If it's a city service do you still tip them?

Yes. The city contracts with them to provide a service. You don't "tip" per se, you give them small occasional gifts of cash.

Edit:  Oh, and the using on the spot thing.  If I'm buying a pound of coffee at a coffee shop, which generally takes more time to get together than the cup I would order, is that a tipable service?  

No. Unless they grind it for you. That's a service.

The same would apply to the bagels and cream cheese that I take home to eat throughout the week.

Don't tip for those unless they put the cream cheese on FOR you or carry them out to your car. It's groceries.

Ah, that's what I was trying to figure out, thank you.  I guess equating that to getting a cup of coffee wasn't entirely accurate.

The garbage men and contractor ones are news to me, so I'll tuck them away for potential future home ownership.

The room service I did manage to learn at a young age.  That's usually in the welcome pamphlets they have lying in the room.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Suu's typical rant on how you should properly tip your waitstaff.

« on: November 12, 2009, 01:41:10 am »

You're an asshole.

And attacking my character for not liking the way I phrased a purely innocent response is a dick move.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Suu's typical rant on how you should properly tip your waitstaff.

« on: November 12, 2009, 01:29:02 am »

I was always told it was 15% minimum, which I've given on a few occasions of shitty service, but I generally do just over 20%.  I also went a few embarassing years not realizing that I was supposed to be tipping the hair dresser.  Hopefully I haven't been screwing any others out of their pay without knowing it.

The bagel place I go to has a line on the receipt for tips, but isn't it sort've like coffee shops?  Tipping is a nice gesture but they're still paid regular wages on top of it.  I mean they make breakfast sandwiches and stuff here, but if I'm asking for a half dozen bagels and a container of cream cheese I don't usually tip.  It'd be like tipping the butcher or the fishmonger.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, it's exactly like coffee shops. Which means they make minimum wage and work hard, and you should tip.

So if I were to walk into a place and ask for a coffee, regular drip coffee, they turn around, pour it into a cup, and hand it to me, I should pay how much extra for that work?  We're talking 30 seconds of work, or in the case of the bagel place up to two minutes.  Do I pay a dollar tip for a $1.50 cup of coffee?  And what if I'm already paying the higher price to go to support a locally owned business?

I'm not arguing that they're paid great or that their job is easy, but at what point does this start getting out of control?  The people in the dressing rooms at stores get about minimum wage, do I tip them for showing me which one to use?

Don't get me wrong.  I'm all for tipping where it's due.  This is my devil's advocate act because I am genuinely confused.

Okay.  At your job, you should be paid less for every hour in which your work is less difficult than average.

I wonder if my employer takes personal checks.

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Apple Zone / Re: ATTN: Scottish spags

« on: November 12, 2009, 01:19:26 am »

I also heard emphasis was on the MOR part?

oh....
I was assuming it was on the AN...
also, to clarify, Cain... the GIE is pronounced like 'guy'? not 'gee' or 'jee'?

I still can't figure out if the ICH in Glenfiddich is prounounced 'ick' or 'itch' or if the ET in Glenlivet is a hard T as in 'bet' or if it's just not prounced, like an 'eh'.

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Apple Zone / Re: Things I hate

« on: November 12, 2009, 01:12:37 am »

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Or Kill Me / Re: Suu's typical rant on how you should properly tip your waitstaff.

« on: November 12, 2009, 12:29:23 am »

FYI retail clerks often make commission or profit-based bonuses, which is the traditional reason for not tipping them. Service industry outside of retail sales do not normally get commissions and instead rely on tips.

Yes, it is complicated figuring out which is which sometimes, but the basic rule of thumb is, did they give you something that goes into use on the spot, or did you buy a thing to take home? Gas station pump jockeys = service. Tip them. Pants salesman = retail. Do not tip.

You can tip contractors (like your gardener and your plumber), but traditionally instead of "tipping" you give them gifts... might be $500 at Christmas, or it might be a bottle of wine every couple of service calls.

Tip your garbagemen occasionally... twice a year is fine. An envelope with "thank you" taped to the can and a couple of $20's inside is fine. It'll save you money later when they don't charge you for extra bags.

Any questions?

Actually yeah.

See, all of this is new.  I mentioned hair cutting earlier confused me because once my parents stopped paying for haircuts, I grew my hair out for years.  By the time I actually got it cut someone mentioned something about tipping and I was like "oh...FUCK" because I'd missed a few times.

I've never had to hire a contractor because I've never owned a home.

I specifically avoid full service stations because I don't see the point in bothering someone to do what I can do in just as much time with just as much effort on my own (not a coffee shop frequenter because I brew my own).  When on a road trip through Jersey, where full service is mandatory, I was incredibly uncomfortable having someone do it for me.

Garbage men, now do you pay them for your curbside pickup, because wherever I've lived it's just been a city service.  If it's a city service do you still tip them?

But yeah the dressing room thing was just for the sake of argument, I know not to tip them.

Edit:  Oh, and the using on the spot thing.  If I'm buying a pound of coffee at a coffee shop, which generally takes more time to get together than the cup I would order, is that a tipable service?  I won't be using it just then.  The same would apply to the bagels and cream cheese that I take home to eat throughout the week.

EoC,
doing this shit to death.

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Apple Zone / Re: ATTN: Scottish spags

« on: November 12, 2009, 12:17:15 am »

I also heard emphasis was on the MOR part?

Balvenie Portwood.


The scotch is aged 21 years in barrels that originally stored port.

'Tis a thing of beauty, I tell you.

Sure, about $140 a bottle, but it's worth it.

The Balvenie Doublewood is my newfound casual drinking scotch.  I'll have to try this one out if I ever have the cash.

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Apple Zone / Re: Things I hate

« on: November 12, 2009, 12:03:30 am »

This thread needs more poll.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Suu's typical rant on how you should properly tip your waitstaff.

« on: November 12, 2009, 12:00:37 am »

Listen, it's either you're playing Devil's Advocate or you're genuinely confused. The two are mutually exclusive.

WTF is wrong with you, are you stupid? You can't figure out 15% of $1.50? Drop a fucking quarter in and call it good.

Those fuckers at the coffee shop have to be there at 4:30 in the morning, they have to grind and brew the coffee and keep the place clean and be on their feet, MOVE MOVE MOVE, with lines out the door, scalding potential at every turn (and they do get burned, a lot) and oblivious assholes like you who expect to be served in under a minute.

It's the SERVICE FUCKING INDUSTRY. You fucking entitled bourgeois prig.

Seriously, there's a FUCKING TIP JAR there for idiots who can't figure out whether they're supposed to tip. Put a fucking quarter in it.

I like how you seem to think that the only thing they do is pour coffee, like there's a team of magic elves who come in and take care of everything else.

Yikes.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Suu's typical rant on how you should properly tip your waitstaff.

« on: November 11, 2009, 10:22:38 pm »

I was always told it was 15% minimum, which I've given on a few occasions of shitty service, but I generally do just over 20%.  I also went a few embarassing years not realizing that I was supposed to be tipping the hair dresser.  Hopefully I haven't been screwing any others out of their pay without knowing it.

The bagel place I go to has a line on the receipt for tips, but isn't it sort've like coffee shops?  Tipping is a nice gesture but they're still paid regular wages on top of it.  I mean they make breakfast sandwiches and stuff here, but if I'm asking for a half dozen bagels and a container of cream cheese I don't usually tip.  It'd be like tipping the butcher or the fishmonger.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, it's exactly like coffee shops. Which means they make minimum wage and work hard, and you should tip.

So if I were to walk into a place and ask for a coffee, regular drip coffee, they turn around, pour it into a cup, and hand it to me, I should pay how much extra for that work?  We're talking 30 seconds of work, or in the case of the bagel place up to two minutes.  Do I pay a dollar tip for a $1.50 cup of coffee?  And what if I'm already paying the higher price to go to support a locally owned business?

I'm not arguing that they're paid great or that their job is easy, but at what point does this start getting out of control?  The people in the dressing rooms at stores get about minimum wage, do I tip them for showing me which one to use?

Don't get me wrong.  I'm all for tipping where it's due.  This is my devil's advocate act because I am genuinely confused.

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Or Kill Me / Re: Suu's typical rant on how you should properly tip your waitstaff.

« on: November 11, 2009, 09:54:04 pm »

I was always told it was 15% minimum, which I've given on a few occasions of shitty service, but I generally do just over 20%.  I also went a few embarassing years not realizing that I was supposed to be tipping the hair dresser.  Hopefully I haven't been screwing any others out of their pay without knowing it.

The bagel place I go to has a line on the receipt for tips, but isn't it sort've like coffee shops?  Tipping is a nice gesture but they're still paid regular wages on top of it.  I mean they make breakfast sandwiches and stuff here, but if I'm asking for a half dozen bagels and a container of cream cheese I don't usually tip.  It'd be like tipping the butcher or the fishmonger.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Principia Discussion / Re: 23ae

« on: November 11, 2009, 08:19:45 pm »

I like it.  You mentioned giving people a sense of what Discordians do.  There are a lot of ways people on this site do things differently, so participants can write a little scenario about activities they engage in or beliefs they hold that brings the religion into their everyday lives.

This is How I Discordian

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Apple Zone / Re: KONFESS TO KAOUSUU

« on: November 11, 2009, 06:48:38 am »

Forgive me, Suu, for I have not sinned.

I woke to help my father move heavy shit about his yard and do laundry and cook a fast meal to get to work barely on time so I could type type type for eight hours and come home to do the dishes and fold the laundry and water my plants to make sure they're fed because I'm a good housekeeper even if I'm living alone it's shiny in here to prepare for the guests I won't be having but I can't visit them either because my car is all borked and I don't know why but it's a money sink and I can't afford to replace it but I don't want to keep throwing wads of cash into it because it's got 173,246 miles and the jobs are too expensive for that kind of mileage and none of this is usually a problem because I drown it in coffee but today I decided to withdraw to let my brain suffer from shrinking capillaries which were alleviated only by the medicine of an apple that's out of season now so brief a season so lovely a fruit that doesn't taste the same from that bin in the supermarket all shiny with shellac to look as tasty as the colorful wrapper of the leftover Halloween candies I'm keeping in my freezer to dip into for some small bit of pleasure in between bottles of hard cider and the last of the dwindling Oktoberfest supply that acts as a reminder of that brief season to pad our summer levity before the harsh cold claws of winter rip our minds apart with its abusive lack of sunlight further filtered by thick curtains hung to keep the meager heat inside to not run up the bills so steep so as to prevent us from life's other unfortunate necessities like the car so wasted beneath its tiny hull to get us to a job where we type type type for eight hours in between the petty tasks to support a life we can't let age beneath the layer of dust that we know is our own dead skin cruelly settling itself about us to clean lest it remind us that this wasted flesh will eventually cease to renew which is a comforting thought when juxtaposed against all the rest of it.

Forgive me, Suu, for my complaint because I'm one of the lucky ones.
Forgive me, Suu, for my life because I did not wrest it from manipulative others.
Forgive me, Suu, for that single sentence and forgive Squiddy for mentioning run-ons in another thread and bringing it to pass.
Forgive me, Suu, for blaming Squiddy on my misdeeds.
Forgive me, Suu.   

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Apple Zone / Re: THOUGHTS ON WATCHMEN MOVIE, MOST OF WHICH ARE NOT BY FRED

« on: November 07, 2009, 09:03:39 pm »

The brilliance exibited by such people!  Here I've mistakenly assumed each work unequal in quality or sincerity, cynically believing some artists even produce purposefully manipulative and pointless drivel in simple search of revenue, some puppet of schemers aiming to eradicate quality in favor of the quickness and amount of money sacrificed by their audiences.  What foolishness.

Under this new guidance I instead intend to sit and drool in passive acceptance of whichever images flash before me, be they pointless raping of another man's work or snazzy reboots of the objects of my nostalgia!

Glorious day.