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Discordian Recipes / Re: I've got yeast and other things.
« on: Today at 07:16:17 pm »
But at what cost, man?  WHAT COST?

Discordian Recipes / Re: I've got yeast and other things.
« on: Today at 07:12:22 pm »
Roger, NO.

Bit of an amorphous phrase, that. The observation is somewhat connected to this feeling, yes, but is informed by it rather than predicated. In example: Pain should be real. A marker. Something that ties us inextricably to the world of the material. It's how you know that you're dreaming. Pinch yourself, is what we say. Yet, pain, too, can be subjected to enough scrutiny that it ceases to affect us physically.

It's more of a generalization. Nothing seems real *enough* for tradition. The satisfaction of innate human biology to make what seems good and right or feels good and right a constant thing. Tradition. For our kids.

The 80's and 90's taught us that nothing matters and that everything should be treated with skepticism or sarcasm. It's in all the angry and disenfranchised music. It's in all the shows. Married With Children takes an archetype and makes a parody of it. Sure, it's understood as a parody, but how long before people forget what parody means because the meme of that worldview (Living a parody based upon an appreciation of irony that went a little too far and dug some roots in your greater perceptions) made it funny to have experiences that mirror the TV. You become the popular one at the water cooler if you can regail your workmates with stories of your life and progeny that 'beat all I've ever seen.'

About 10-15 years, it seems. In many cases, instantly.

Small part of a larger puzzle, yes, and some things do seem more real and worthy than others. But as I consider the origin of things more, they seem less so. Imposed. Just like the pain that you can see through if you try.

Does that help?

Okay, but... Nigel might have a more accurate explanation, but pain is a stimulation of a category of nerve cells, often in response to some form of damage.  It sounds like you've learned how to ignore that, rather than make it "go away" or "not exist".

That sounds quite a lot like weaponized denialism.

Ah.  And this is connected to your idea that "nothing seems real"?

I'm still trying to get a feel for this.

Hold on - are you talking about physical pain here, or life being generally shitty?

This sounds like a form of Buddhism, but with a whiff of masochism.

Not a negative criticism, just getting a feel for the concept.

If you'll entertain a bit of unsolicited advice, you may want to review your word choice.  "I'm done", "nothing is real", "pain and woe", "whine with me", etc.

Underneath that appears to be a request to discuss why compassion should be defended as a good thing, but it's buried in a lot of other stuff.

Also, we have a cooking section.  You should check it out.

Hi, new guy!

You sound upset.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 24, 2017, 07:48:43 pm »
I am relieved and amused.  I think I'm gonna go to the GAY BAR to celebrate.

Did they declare jihad against the Chicago Manual of Style?

OK, so I answered "no" to the above questions.

I feel better.  Thanks.

Literate Chaotic / Re: Unofficial What are you Reading Thread?
« on: March 24, 2017, 01:40:39 pm »
I'm reading "The New Jim Crow" by Michelle Alexander, about how mass incarceration is the modern caste system of white supremacy.

Interestingly, it was given to me by my septuagenarian mother, who is trying to become Woke in the wake of this election. I mean, she was always a "liberal democrat", but she was also born a WASP in Pasadena CA during the 40s, so...

It's really fun to watch.

Should I be scared?

I'm scared. 

It really is a testament to how successful society IS, that so many people seem to feel they can opt out without immediate dire risk to their survival.

Truth. Just like only a person lucky enough to be born into the most fabulously wealthy civilization in human history could somehow end up believing that poverty itself arises only from bad choices or moral weakness, or only a person born under the fairest laws in history could somehow think injustice is a only a delusion in the minds of its victims. In past ages, when the whole world was hostile and the state really was out for your blood, no one would deny that some people got the short end of the stick by chance of birth and deserved something better than they had the power to earn for themselves. It's a serious indictment of humanity that once presented with the tools to eradicate disease, poverty, and starvation, we choose instead to just stop seeing those things as problems.


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