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Beyond the wall / Re: Virtue Signalling
« on: Yesterday at 08:25:48 pm »
This article has a first-person point of view about what we've been talking about:

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Still, what was really bothering me? Where was my sense of awe and hope? The next morning realized: I donít trust these people.

I donít trust most of the Womenís March participants to show up again. I donít trust the resolve of their concern. I donít trust that all voted for Hillary Clinton or recognized the unprecedented threat of Donald Trump. I donít trust that they understood this was an election to do everything in our power to keep him out of the White Houseótoo important to throw a vote away on Jill Stein or write in your motherís name on the ballot.

In this case, it seems to be coming from a well-earned sense of jaded cynicism.  Which, I suppose could be considered ironic.

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Beyond the wall / Re: Virtue Signalling
« on: Yesterday at 07:14:19 pm »
I can see that.  But I decided my best response is to understand why they're upset and try to work with them.  And much of that will be actions over words.  My first instinct was to say "this is why we can't have nice things", but that doesn't help move things forward.

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Beyond the wall / Re: Virtue Signalling
« on: Yesterday at 07:05:34 pm »
I didn't want to speak for others on my FB post, but I'll take a swing here.

NOTE: This is not my opinion, and I'm not going to argue their point.  If you have questions, seek out someone who feels this way and talk to them.

There's some frustration and apprehension about a slew of white women (and men) suddenly showing up to protest, with an enormous emphasis in both the rallies and the media around issues that white women (mostly middle-class) have, to the detriment of higher at-risk minorities.  There's also a worry that the majority of people who showed up will pat themselves on the back, say, "We did it! We smashed patriarchy!" and go back to their suburbs, abandoning WOC and LGBTQ.

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Beyond the wall / Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
« on: January 22, 2017, 06:39:21 pm »
This week's SNL was hosted by Aziz Ansari (Tom from "Parks And Recreation"), and his monologue touched on this.

(Paraphrased)
"It's like Trump gets elected, and there's a whole bunch of people went, "Yay! I don't have to pretend I'm not racist anymore!"

"No guys, no. KEEP PRETENDING."

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Literate Chaotic / Re: The Foxhole With The Atheist
« on: January 20, 2017, 07:49:15 pm »
 :lord:

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Beyond the wall / Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
« on: January 20, 2017, 07:44:25 pm »
According to the woman who came up with the idea, no.

I'm gonna go with her on this one.

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Beyond the wall / Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
« on: January 20, 2017, 04:34:05 pm »
Thanks!  It's really fun.  And refreshing to be in a band that's not all dudes posturing! 

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Beyond the wall / Re: Do impossible thoughts exist?
« on: January 20, 2017, 02:32:15 pm »
"Mr. President, if a fake news site runs an article claiming a story to be fake news, does that constitute a double negative and therefore asserts the truthfulness of that news story?"

"It was my understanding that there would be no math."

Well played.

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Beyond the wall / Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
« on: January 20, 2017, 02:31:10 pm »
Also, I'd like to announce the first release by Donald., a political punk band I helped start.

Our first song and video is called "Sad."  It's only a minute and a half long, so watch it.

We also have a Facebook page.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: The Foxhole With The Atheist
« on: January 20, 2017, 01:21:18 pm »
Because it involves atheism, which to some people provokes a knee-jerk reaction to interject "Yes, but..." regardless of the content.

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Beyond the wall / Re: Open Bar: Fake News, Fake Bar
« on: January 20, 2017, 01:19:33 pm »
Well, today's the day.  Or maybe it's Monday, since he's taking the weekend off.

Hopefully, my steel-tipped workboots will show up soon.

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Beyond the wall / Re: Do impossible thoughts exist?
« on: January 20, 2017, 01:18:06 pm »
"Mr. President, if a fake news site runs an article claiming a story to be fake news, does that constitute a double negative and therefore asserts the truthfulness of that news story?"

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Beyond the wall / Re: NYC cabal meet-up?!
« on: January 19, 2017, 07:05:57 pm »

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Picking Cain's Brains
« on: January 18, 2017, 05:14:53 pm »
Cain, what do you think of Samantha Powers' assessment of Russia in her UN report?
 Found here (yes, it's Vox): http://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/18/14300598/samantha-power-russia-final-speech

Basically, Russia finds it easier to gain power by destroying existing frameworks, but doesn't have a plan how to build new ones.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: The Foxhole With The Atheist
« on: January 18, 2017, 04:21:39 pm »
The original trope "There are no atheists in a foxhole" was created to give the impression that under times of extreme stress, all humans will look to a higher power to help them; ergo, atheism can be dismissed as human folly.

The subverted trope of the OP intends to show that using nothing but reasoning from the atheist's belief system, morality and good works do not have to be divinely inspired or derived, but can be concluded simply from the premise that there is no afterlife or higher power; that it's up to the individual, not god.

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