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mike brown robbed a store before being killed and was killed by a black cop.

I'd protest for such injustice anyday! :lulz:

Black cops can't use excessive force against other black people? Is that in their nature?

Shut the fuck up.

....who, me or von?

I'd put money on Von.

You'd be right. Sorry Twid, I missed there was another page and thought I was posting right after him.

No worries. I figured it was likely Von, but figured I'd make sure.

Principia Discussion / Re: That's odd...
« on: August 15, 2014, 02:31:39 pm »
Dammit, I totally overlooked the marginalia.

Thanks, Twid!

No problemo, man


Because agent provocateurs dont exist, blacks are violent by nature and the police is there to save everyone from themselves and to "public order" them.

This is the most desperate case of grasping at straws ive ever seen.
for a multi day protest thats known about and has persisted for a few days...yeah, i can see agents. For a riot that occurs within 24 hours of the event people are mad at? please show me agents that have been contracted and organised in that time. It doesnt sound plausible.

As for blacks being violent by nature:
twid could tell you about that...afterall, they are a poor oppressed minority -- who can blame them for flipping out when one of their community gets killed?

Sorry, where did I say they were violent by nature?

>everyone omitting the fact that the day after Mike Brown got killed, there were violent riots and looting in the streets

Fuck this narrative about peaceful protesters. They devolved into smashing in store fronts and stealing shit at random on day one. Hardly "peaceful" and hardly directed at the police force that committed injustice against them, if you ask me...

It was also only a few people only on day one, and they were arrested.

Secondly, I'm assuming that your expert opinion is based on being a member of a minority group that has suffered institutionalized oppression since day one in a society that you're constantly reminded that any equality you get is lip service and a pat on the back saying hey you're not slaves anymore and even one of you is the president (you know the same guy, that has earned legitimate criticism but that shit never gets heard because of butthurt latent racism making a shitstink over non-issues), walking around with the knowledge that a police officer may use any excuse to brutalize you during any interaction with them? That wouldn't make you more prone to flip your shit and go nuts when the authorities murdered one of your community and you're just fucking sick of it?

There's an article that a friend posted on Facebook about how parents shouldn't be excited about their kids going back to school, and in fact, even joking about it is a bad thing, because that means you don't love your kids or some shit.

Whatever happened to having a fucking sense of humor? I mentioned this, and got chastised, because "I'm not a parent and I will never understand."

Oh fuck off and hit your funny bone.

God forbid children get a chance to spend some time away from mom and socialize with other people their own age, and learn how to function as an independent human being. You don't need to be a parent to realize that.

He's both...but let's be honest, when was the last time you heard of Dawkins doing anything vaguely scientific?

He's been spending the past decade writing books about how his e-peen is both tremendous and thoughtful, while attempting to herd cats tender to the online Atheist movement.  Notably not in a lab, or engaged in research, or teaching.  Oh, he is part of that New Humanist College in London, with ridiculous fees, but he's mostly a name on their board of directors, to get public interest.

I saw a video where he and NDT had a conversation so that a biologist could ask a physicist and a physicist could ask a biologist, and I was like, oh, right, he's meant to be a biologist. Forgot about that, because of his primary interest in the non-existence of something.

I liked it, and God only came up during the questions from the audience. Presumably because, again, of his primary interest in the non-existence of something. But it was watchable. He wasn't a douche, he and Neil were just talking about the universe from their specific scientific fields and asking the other to make sense out of something for them.

Do they talk?




You owe me a new pair of pants, you bastard.

I kinda feel like this needs to be the intro to a song.

The Richard Nixon school of ballet and the arts / Re: Spagbook
« on: August 13, 2014, 09:43:36 pm »
No shame in that.  I'm in week 3 or 4 of my offs.

Yeah. And bringing this back around to the topic, exercise really is the best way to beat them back.

The primary benefit of running, to me, that the gym will never have, is backing by the First Church of GO OUTSIDE.

The gym is working for me.

I feel more likely to run if I'm near a treadmill. Walking or running outside seems task oriented to me. I'm walking from point A to point B. If I'm running it's because I see the train coming.

Silly Irishman.  You can't outrun a TRAIN.

Mostly I'm trolling politely with compassion and earnestness. But then DAWKINS happened, and the bats started swinging.

Speaking of the awesomeness of scientific evidence, there is an increasing body of scientific evidence that suggests that statements of the form "A is true" are more likely to increase belief in A (and overcome belief in !A), than statements of the form "!A is false". In fact, a surprising observation that has emerged from these studies, is that "!A is false," tends to only slightly, at best, diminish belief in !A, and, in cases where the initial belief is particularly strong, can actually INCREASE it.

If we apply this cognitive backfire hypothesis to Dawkins' statement, and roughly sum all the probabilities that emerge, it seems like what we're looking at here is a statement that most likely overcomes resistance to science in the - to 0 range.

If Richard Dawkins' motives are overcoming resistance to/promoting science, this scientific evidence suggests that he's probably not doing a very good job of it.

Of course, it's entirely possible that cognitive backfire is a blip, not real at all. The same could be said of gravity, albeit with considerably less plausibility. If Richard Dawkins has doubts about cognitive backfire (and thus can rationally continue making these sorts of statements without casting doubt on the sincerity of his motives) I would invite him to try to persuade a group of people beating him with bats to stop doing so, by smugly declaring that only inferior, wrong-headed, jerk-offs beat people with bats.

The results would certainly be of considerable scientific interest.


The Richard Nixon school of ballet and the arts / Re: ATTN: Musicians
« on: August 13, 2014, 02:47:51 pm »
Then, granular synthesis, trust me.  Download Forester (max/msp runtime).  Digital aleatoric at your fingertips :)

I'll give those a try too.

The Richard Nixon school of ballet and the arts / Re: ATTN: Musicians
« on: August 13, 2014, 02:47:34 pm »
Huh, I don't know why running it through my pedals didn't occur to me.

I remember doing that in high school for the drum beats to see what would happen and got some weird sounds out of that.

Dare I ask what a skeleton war is?

It is not A skeleton war, its THE skeleton war. :evilmad:

This statement clarifies nothing.

It's fucking metal, is what it is.

Is it NWOBHM, or is it like Death MEtal?

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