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Honeybear don't give a fuck.

Which is interesting, in that there's a parallel argument that if welfare is abolished, charity groups (widely assumed to be religiously based) will step in to cover.

Well, we had this before the modern welfare state.

That we went ahead and developed the modern welfare state anyway suggests that it was insufficient.  Or cultural Marxists convinced us to do it, one or the other.

Yeah, if codeine's not helping, that sounds like it needs to be looked at, soon as possible  :sad:

Discordian Recipes / Re: Chocolate Geodes
« on: Yesterday at 10:38:22 pm »
Yeah, I saw the video of these earlier today myself.

At first I wasn't sure what I was seeing and thought they'd chocolate coated an actual geode (in my defense this was before my first coffee).

RPG Ghetto / Re: Unified Vidya Games thread
« on: Yesterday at 08:42:19 pm »

Beamdog have made Planescape: Torment Enhanced Edition.  Turns out this is what Chris Avellone has been working on lately.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: Local Politics Clusterfuck
« on: Yesterday at 05:33:56 pm »
Well, you could.

However, I'm sure the County Supervisor has other pressure points, from within their own party for example.  A primary challenger who promises what you are after, people the CS owes favours to, people the CS has pissed off in the past...there are options to be explored.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: Local Politics Clusterfuck
« on: Yesterday at 11:00:22 am »
Quote from: Some dead Italian guy
"It must be considered that there is nothing more difficult to carry out, nor more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to handle, than to initiate a new order of things.  For the reformer has enemies in all those who profit by the old order, and only lukewarm defenders in all those who would profit by the new order, this lukewarmness arising partly from fear of their adversaries, who have the laws in their favour; and partly from the incredulity of mankind, who do not truly believe in anything new until they have had the actual experience of it."

Quote from: Same dead Italian
But when it is necessary for him to proceed against the life of someone, he must do it on proper justification and for manifest cause, but above all things he must keep his hands off the property of others, because men more quickly forget the death of their father than the loss of their patrimony.

Quote from: Oh fuck it, it's Machiavelli
Hence, he who attacks the Turk must bear in mind that he will find him united, and he will have to rely more on his own strength than on the revolt of others; but, if once the Turk has been conquered, and routed in the field in such a way that he cannot replace his armies, there is nothing to fear but the family of this prince, and, this being exterminated, there remains no one to fear, the others having no credit with the people; and as the conqueror did not rely on them before his victory, so he ought not to fear them after it.

The contrary happens in kingdoms governed like that of France, because one can easily enter there by gaining over some baron of the kingdom, for one always finds malcontents and such as desire a change. Such men, for the reasons given, can open the way into the state and render the victory easy

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 26, 2017, 08:42:18 pm »
Does he have the power to pull out of NATO, or is it just a stunt?

He'd need Congress to ratify it, since NATO is enshrined in treaty law.

But he could always pull a France and downgrade cooperation with the rest of NATO.  Withdraw troops from Europe, remove remaining troops from unified command...he has options short of leaving.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 26, 2017, 07:42:14 pm »
If you're trying to drive a wedge between the US and its European allies, it makes perfect sense.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 26, 2017, 02:14:01 pm »
He's the head of the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Though probably not for long at this rate  :lulz:



Obviously, taxation is rape.  And slavery.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 26, 2017, 01:25:34 pm »
Meanwhile, the Trump is continuing to make the best deals

Donald Trump handed the German chancellor Angela Merkel a bill — thought to be for more than £300bn — for money her country “owed” Nato for defending it when they met last weekend, German government sources have revealed.

The bill — handed over during private talks in Washington — was described as “outrageous” by one German minister.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 26, 2017, 01:15:04 pm »
Meanwhile, Mike Flynn discussed with Turkey about how to kidnap Gulen while on Turkey's payroll

The discussion late last summer involved ideas about how to get Fethullah Gulen, a cleric whom Turkey has accused of orchestrating last summer’s failed military coup, to Turkey without going through the U.S. extradition legal process, according to Mr. Woolsey and those who were briefed.

Mr. Woolsey told The Wall Street Journal he arrived at the meeting in New York on Sept. 19 in the middle of the discussion and found the topic startling and the actions being discussed possibly illegal.

The Turkish ministers were interested in open-ended thinking on the subject, and the ideas were raised hypothetically, said the people who were briefed. The ministers in attendance included the son-in-law of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the country’s foreign minister, foreign-lobbying disclosure documents show.

Mr. Woolsey said the idea was “a covert step in the dead of night to whisk this guy away.” The discussion, he said, didn’t include actual tactics for removing Mr. Gulen from his U.S. home. If specific plans had been discussed, Mr. Woolsey said, he would have spoken up and questioned their legality.

It isn’t known who raised the idea or what Mr. Flynn concluded about it.
I'll have to remember that one.

"It wasn't no "conspiracy to commit" we was just havin' one of them nice, open-ended thinking hypothetical conversations. Ain't no crime in that yer honor."

It gets better.  Devin Nunes was also present at that meeting

Aneristic Illusions / Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« on: March 26, 2017, 12:15:38 pm »
While I'm glad it didn't pass, it's still disturbing that the reason the Freedom Caucus rejected the bill was that it wasn't draconian enough. It makes me worried what they'll try to push next time.

They're pushing FREEDOM, comrade.  It's in the name.

Aneristic Illusions / Re: EU Referendum 23rd June: In or Out?
« on: March 26, 2017, 12:14:44 pm »
So just what is in the water in Clacton anyway?  I mean, voting for Carswell when he was a Tory was bad enough, but I can sort of understand it.   But now?

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