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Or Kill Me / Hearts and Minds
« on: June 03, 2008, 09:59:54 pm »
Welcome to the modern day war zone.  Right now, as I speak, a thousand battles are being waged for your submission and allegiance.  Commanders and politicians have decided that the enemy is us and that we are to be bought to heel, as soon as possible.

No doubt some of you think I'm using hyperbole, or metaphor to illustrate an example of our socially fractured society and the commodification of identity.  And while those certainly are problems, anyone thinking about those in relation to my rant today are wrong.  Right now, you and I are quite literally at war with at least one government, namely that of the USA.

Oh to be sure there won't be running battles with light infantry.  No air-strikes are going to be called in on your house, and I'm reasonably certain you wont get carted away to Guantanomo Bay, or any other black site that exists.  But just because guns aren't being loaded and blood isn't been spilt doesn't mean this isn't a conflict.

You see, war isn't about the clash of armies on the battlefield anymore.  Hell, its barely even about killing, except as an advertising hook or a final solution for people who refuse to stop being a pain in the ass.  No, warfare has moved through the gentlemanly period of pitched battles and low casualties, blown apart by Napoleon and perfected in the slaughterhouse of WWI.  Its not even the dirty political warfare that characterized the Cold War, marked by futile superpower conflict and strategies designed to bleed a superpower by third world proxies, and on the other end of the scale by terrorism.

No, warfare today is about fighting on the psychological and narrative level.  Its about capturing the mind, and shackling it to the agenda of the day, regardless of what that agenda may be.

The thing is, you see, as warfare has become less and less about artful strategy and less bound by codes of conduct – be they religious, cultural or legal – the real issue has not been arms, logistics, intelligence and skill, but about the sheer will to fight.  Whoever goes on fighting the longest, whoever is willing to do what it takes to persuade the other side to accept their interests, whoever is able to effectively frame the agenda in a certain manner, is the winner in the modern world.  You can even suffer strategic setbacks if your message and will is powerful enough.

And of course, if you accept this as essentially true, broadly speaking, then logically you come to the problem being people who wont get the fuck on with the message.  The enemy ceases to be those who threaten certain strategic alliances, deposits of raw materials and the lives of the citizenry.  No, the enemy becomes anyone who undermines that message and so weakens that will to resolve the conflict – and that person can be anyone, even your own citizenry.

Back in the day, they used to call this PsyOps.  It used to only be a wartime enterprise.  Dropping leaflets over enemy cities and troop formations.  Doing pirate broadcasts using exiles and friendlies from the nation you are at war with to convince them of widespread resentment towards the government.  Smear and ridicule important political and military leaders in any way possible.

Like I said, it used to be only a wartime enterprise.  But now, thanks to the Cold War terrorism, carried to its conclusion by the likes of Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah, the difference between peace and war only exists in a legal sense.  The potentially endless war on terror means actually endless psychological operations – carried out against not just the enemy, but the civilian population at home as well.  The media has to hang the enemy with words and discourses and justifications before the military can do it in fact.

Nowadays, PsyOps is only one part of a much broader school, known as Information Operations.  Do you operate a blog, report on the failing and lies and crimes of your country?  Then you are are, according to this world-view, engaging in warfare against the state.  But its not just about information per se.  You have to think about this much more broadly.  For example, protests.  A protest is not just a protest.  It never can be.  Its an expression of low intensity conflict relying on moral discourses and popular expression of dissidence, aimed at bringing about a political-military confrontation.

And just where do you think something like Operation MindFuck fits into this system of ideas?  Since many of us tend to think of O:MF as a way of mentally shaking people up, getting them to question their assumptions, physically deconstructing the popular discourses of the day, stripping away the bare truth hidden beneath self-serving platitudes...well, in that case, it is nothing more than a direct challenge to state power.

That may dishearten some of you.  But the simple truth is, thinking for yourself, and then communicating those thoughts to others, will always be seen that way, so long as this world-view dominates.  You may as well get used to it, because unless you decide to never share your views, or have a frontal lobotomy, you will almost certainly do something that could be considered an act of war.  And if you get really good at it, you may even end up in a real domestic war – as the crazy elements of the thuggish far right, security services and corporate sponsored smear teams conspire to make your life hell through intimidation, surveillance and character assassination.

And to be honest, once you realize that you are in the war, a certain clarity accompanies that knowledge.  You can now diagnose this uneasy feeling all of the above has been creating.  You know what it is now, the nature of the Beast is discerned and laid bare.  Once you know what the problem is, you can set about dealing with it.  Few things are insurmountable, once you understand their purpose and context.

Unfortunately, you have little choice about this.  The line has already been drawn in the sand, and you're on the wrong side.  What happens next is a matter of policy, insanity, personal whim and plain old bad luck.  Because you're not quite the perpetual pain in the ass that, say, Al-Qaeda is, you won't be facing the guns.  You can be drowned out by voices of far-right harpies, military “experts” who 'just happen' to be taking pay cheques from the Pentagon and spineless journalists more content with attacking those who search for the truth than politicians who hide it.

There is a spectrum of responses, if you will.  If you do this, the response will be that.  And if you do something else, the response will differ in proportion.  But like all Platonic constructs of reality, there are gaps in the conceptual definitions put forward.  And it is in such gaps that the game must be played most effectively.  Operation MindFuck works best in areas where they are no response.  So go beyond blogging, or political protest, or pranks, or sabotage and mild acts of ontological guerilla warfare.  Mix and match, be innovative, experiment and push the boundaries.  And remember, even though this is a war, unconventional forces always have the advantage over hierarchies.

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Vampire LARPers

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French lack of hygiene.

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Or Kill Me / Re: response to my asshole brother on myspace
« on: June 03, 2008, 12:12:35 pm »
Legally no.  You have to knowingly give material aid and comfort to the enemy, as far as I am aware.

Rhetorically speaking, of course.  But rhetorically speaking, being a vegetarian makes you a Nazi, and wanting universal healthcare the heir to Stalin.

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Or Kill Me / Re: response to my asshole brother on myspace
« on: June 03, 2008, 11:31:03 am »
We all know this, but I just want to say, for the record, that the left does this too.



Maybe, but not to the same degree.  Take for example the antiwar protests in 2003.  I can't recall hearing at a single time about an antiwar protest turning violent or attacking pro-war protestors.  I'm sure there were, especially later on, but in 2003 there were very few of the total number.  Yet at the same time I can recall many pro-war protests breaking up, intimidating, phoning in bomb threats and physically assaulting anti-war protestors.  These weren't just isolated incidents either, they took place in almost every state.

Also, I would say traitor is about the strongest description used by the left, whereas certain well known and listened to elements of the right goes well beyond that, often using rhetoric that suggests the elimination and violent death of those that disagree with them.  And its not just restricted to the leaders either (I for one would like to see members of the Bush administration tried for war crimes, and if some got hung I would be annoyed only to the extent that I disagree with the death penalty), often this rhetoric is extended to nearly everyone with left-wing views.

So I think there is an important difference there.  I haven't heard anyone who wasn't a certified whacko with next to no audience calling for the death of all right-wingers.  But I've heard it from the right as pertaining to the left fairly often.  Much of these campaigns take place on the internet and radio, so they often slip under the mainstream media radar.  But they most certainly exist.

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Or Kill Me / Re: response to my asshole brother on myspace
« on: June 02, 2008, 10:05:01 pm »
I think an interesting point you raise Vex is the willingness by even the mainstream and moderate factions of the GOP and especially their supporters who seem to feel that not only do more liberal parties and individuals have ideas that they disagree with - which is part and parcel of party politics - but that they are actually unfit for leadership and indeed participation in the political process at all.

That's a very different thing indeed, and a rather worrying one.  It indicates a move to the extremes of dirty political fighting, denying the entire legitimacy of another major party as a player in national politics.  In the UK, such language is usually reserved for the BNP, and is much more toned down.  The big three parties, for all their faults, recognize that if they are voted in, by the will of the people, then that is that.  If they failed, they need to improve their message or policies.  While they certainly may dislike a government, I have rarely seen attacks against entire party ideologies - except by the illiterate brownshirt wannabes reading the Daily Express and Mail.

The problem is, once legitimacy is denied, what next?  For all their bluster, the Democrats still exist and wield power.  Well, of course, the next step is violent street fights and inciting riots against their 'illegitimate' authority....

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Principia Discussion / Re: Discordian Cyber masquerade
« on: June 02, 2008, 08:40:34 pm »
I have to be honest - I can barely be bothered with the place.

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Or Kill Me / Re: The Iconoclast's Manifesto
« on: June 02, 2008, 07:46:22 pm »
What 000 said.

The more beautiful and pure a thing is, the more satisfying it is to ruin it.

How ...mediocre.

The reason I cannot leave anything (or, for that matter, anyone) alone is that some things are too good to be worshiped. Putting something (or somebody) on a pedestal is the quickest and imo cruelest way to kill everything that is inspiring about it.

"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to tell him to hold something in high esteem"?

Nietzsche would approve.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Generalissimo Salazar's Politics Corner
« on: May 30, 2008, 07:53:27 pm »
He wants to abolish the federal reserve, the Department of Education, and pretty much every federal program that exists.

Psh, dont give a shit about that.

He's friends with Christian theocrat Gary North, has played every far-right conspiracy theory going and is nothing less than the candidate for the Heavily Guarded Compound crowd.  The people really behind him are the sort of people who cheered at the Oklahoma Bombing and think abortionists should be murdered.

People who think abortionists should be murdered don't sound like what Libertarianism is supposed to be about though, do they?  Or do I have the wrong idea about Libertarianism?

Ron Paul isn't really a Libertarian.

He's in favour of states being able to legislate away rights enshrined in the Constitution and is opposed to the Federal Reserve and UN on the basis they are part of a militarist bankers conspiracy - not that they interfere with the free market and autonomy of the individual.  He'd have no problem with a state taking away every single right a person has - just so long as the Federal government doesnt do it.  The links explain it pretty well.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Generalissimo Salazar's Politics Corner
« on: May 30, 2008, 07:14:13 pm »
He wants to abolish the federal reserve, the Department of Education, and pretty much every federal program that exists.

Psh, dont give a shit about that.

He's friends with Christian theocrat Gary North, has played every far-right conspiracy theory going and is nothing less than the candidate for the Heavily Guarded Compound crowd.  The people really behind him are the sort of people who cheered at the Oklahoma Bombing and think abortionists should be murdered.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Generalissimo Salazar's Politics Corner
« on: May 30, 2008, 07:10:32 pm »
Serious question:

I don't pay a hell of a lot of attention to politics... so I was hoping someone could help me out with this. 

I know Ron Paul gets ribbed a lot on this forum, but I was just listening to an interview with him and he seemed like an interesting candidate.

So, what is the problem with him?

He's a NeoConfederate, in short.

Also see http://ronpaulsurvivalreport.blogspot.com/ and http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=site%3Adneiwert.blogspot.com+ron+paul&btnG=Search&meta=

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Or Kill Me / Re: working class
« on: May 30, 2008, 06:35:56 pm »
Maybe the workplace should be run on a more military model, for increased fairness.

Dammit, I was gonna riff on that.


 :argh!:

Psh, go ahead.  I doubt I covered even half of the reasons that's a bad idea.

Pataphoros,
I believe Nigel is mocking 221's idea that both policing in the ghetto and teaching should be militarized with another silly example.

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Principia Discussion / Re: The Verwirrung Soundtrack downloads
« on: May 30, 2008, 02:04:00 pm »
Without editing mistakes, everyone would think I was having an easy time putting this together.

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Principia Discussion / Re: The Verwirrung Soundtrack downloads
« on: May 30, 2008, 01:52:34 pm »
 :lulz:

I wasn't sure how deep the loathing for Phil Collins went...and besides, the track would have required much more editing, since it was interlaced with Spitting Images soundclips.

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