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Literate Chaotic / Re: Cain: Book Question.
« on: May 17, 2008, 01:36:08 pm »
I think I conflated two different books.  The storyline I had in mind was a book by Georges Perec, but the book itself was something I read about on Wikipedia.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Cain: Book Question.
« on: May 17, 2008, 08:08:16 am »
You weren´t talking about Ulysses? Oops.


Nah, I've never read Ulysses.  I have an e-book somewhere, and probably will, one day....

It was something I saw while messing around on Wikipedia, following random links to strange and rarely seen entries.

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RPG Ghetto / Re: Sink
« on: May 17, 2008, 07:28:21 am »
I once sank the Home Counties.

Ask revidic about our alleged 'summer' last year.

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took me over a month to notice this.



Wait for it....




































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Almost there




































































Not far to go now...

















































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GASM Command / HIMEOBSGASM (a spin off of postergasm)
« on: May 16, 2008, 05:04:52 pm »
HIMEOBS of course does not exist, but that does not mean the mere mortals who make up our citizenry should get off on that technicality alone.

Therefore I'm suggesting a postergasm spinoff using the most posterlike H-propaganda, to be put in public places and documented over the web.

Below I'll document the ones I think are most useful, get feedback and additional propaganda, then pdf them and put up links on the Wiki/advertise.










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Principia Discussion / Re: Plug your cabal/disorganization
« on: May 16, 2008, 07:51:55 am »
The Popular Front for the Liberation of Discordia does not recruit via the internet.  Nor is entry predicated on being a Discordian alone...

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Or Kill Me / Re: Steampunk: the new LARP
« on: May 16, 2008, 03:12:42 am »
I am saddened this thread has not yet had a single mention of

LIGHTNING BOLT LIGHTNING BOLT LIGHTNING BOLT!

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Cain: Book Question.
« on: May 16, 2008, 03:09:32 am »
Maybe not quite that old... :)

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: May 16, 2008, 02:53:41 am »
I sometimes wonder if Bush realizes there are people in Iran and Syria saying the exact same thing.

Lets try it out.

Quote
Palestine's population may be just over a million.

"But when you confront terror and evil, you are 200m strong, because the Revolutionary Guard and our allies stand with you.

Yes, it sound just as retarded, whichever way you phrase it. 

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Or Kill Me / Re: Steampunk: the new LARP
« on: May 15, 2008, 08:03:10 pm »
What exactly does larp mean?

BVH
-ignant

Live Action Role Playing, I believe.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Cain: Book Question.
« on: May 15, 2008, 05:35:28 pm »
Before that too.  I mean well before you would expect it.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Cain: Book Question.
« on: May 15, 2008, 05:29:13 pm »
If I recall right, the story follows a day in the life of the central character, but documents absolutely everything happening around him, in maddening detail.

Right?

Sounds like something out of Borges.

It does, and maybe it is, but I'm sure a book along that line was written much earlier.

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Principia Discussion / Re: The PD.com soundtrack (working title)
« on: May 15, 2008, 05:21:10 pm »
Probably.  There are at least 6 KMFDM suggestions floating around though, so I don't think we need any more.

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Principia Discussion / Re: The PD.com soundtrack (working title)
« on: May 15, 2008, 04:18:11 pm »
Downloading now, thanks.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: May 15, 2008, 01:36:57 pm »
http://episkoposcain.blogspot.com/2008/05/leaderless-jihad.html

I didn't know this, but Marc Sageman apparently has a new book on Al-Qaeda out, called Leaderless Jihad.

For those of you who don't know who Sageman is, shame on you. He's a former CIA Case Officer and psychiatrist with experience in Pakistan and Afghanistan who has undertaken some very interesting studies on Al-Qaeda.

His previous book, Understanding Terror Networks, is a classic of terrorism literature and has been highly recommended by pretty much every terrorism lecturer and researcher up at the St Andrews. Its a wide-reaching investigation into the background, motivating beliefs and (most importantly) social networks that comprise the nebulous organization called Al-Qaeda. Notes based on this research of 400 Al-Qaeda members can be found here.

These social bonds are the most important factor in recruiting and getting someone into terrorism, which is why I think Sageman's book is so important. If we rely on arguments from religion, personal psychopathy, brainwashing or hatred of 'Western' values, many of which are unproven caricatures as Sageman shows, then we wont be able to carry out the necessary counterterrorism policies - which should be aimed at severing the existing terrorists from a pool of possible recruits, while taking in their current members and working towards a political solution of the underlying factors that led to the emergence of terrorists in the first place.

His new book seemed more focused on what is called the New Wave of Al-Qaeda terrorists. Essentially, these are lone wolf or self-forming cells, who instead of being intensely religious and well educated (the profile of a previous Al-Qaeda member) are younger, probably had more run-ins with the police or a criminal record, and are "bored and looking for thrills".

This seems to be a real possibility. I remember more than a few classes I took with John Horgan where he said the process of radicalization often took place after one made contact with the terrorist group in question. If these "thrillseekers" are looking for jihadist videos, tracts and forums for thrills, sooner or later they are going to be talking with people sympathetic to a jihadist worldview. This taints or affects their thinking into a downward spiral based on the violent and paranoid worldview which could ultimately result in terrorist related activities.

Of course, that's a highly simplified way of putting it, and no doubt the actual processes are much more discrete and subtle. But I think as a simplified and limited explanation, it can work. These people get caught up in a discourse of warriorship, fanatical Islam and martyrdom. "We have always been warriors, we have always fought and been victorious, and now we are weak and persecuted". Its the common theme of too many terrorist group's rhetoric to be just a coincidence.

According to a talk Sageman gave at the New America Foundation "It's more about hero worship than about religion," The vast majority of Sageman's sample had not attended radical madrassas, could speak Arabic and have not read the Koran. Nearly all joined the movement because they knew/are related to someone who's already in it. The age of these terrorists is decreasing too: In Sageman's 2003 sample, the average age was 26; among those arrested after 2006, it was down to about 20. Its more accurate to describe these people as supermepowered, transnational gang members than terrorists.

All of this has very interesting, and worrying implications for policy and society in general. Especially the latter, since media culture and rhetoric has not caught up with Sageman's studies or knowledge. They'd much rather listen to media heads or politicians than soldiers and academics who study terrorism closely, and to be honest, that's a real shame. Because if we don't understand how Al-Qaeda is morphing and evolving, we're going to be throwing around very dangerous charges and allegations at people who may have had little or nothing to do with such attacks, and be concentrating on totally useless avenues of investigation and prevention.

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