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Think for Yourself, Schmuck! / Re: Philosopher of the Week
« on: August 30, 2008, 03:56:54 pm »
Pending computer recovery, I will restart this on Monday, with Aristotle.

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I'm not.  I just read that stuff for shits and giggles.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Indecision 08 Wingnut thread
« on: August 29, 2008, 04:55:23 pm »
Found a den of PUMAs praising McCain's pick:

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/egalia/3406449702235321411/

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Indecision 08 Wingnut thread
« on: August 29, 2008, 04:50:13 pm »

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Indecision 08 Wingnut thread
« on: August 29, 2008, 04:48:14 pm »
She's also up to her neck in a corruption charge involving her brother in law and general cronyism.

And since these rats aren't gonna fuck themselves, I have no problem with donning my RNC disguise(s) and making noises about an inexperienced WOMAN having run of things (because McCain is gonna die sooner rather than later).

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Indecision 08 Wingnut thread
« on: August 29, 2008, 04:29:59 pm »
Wrong, this will be hilarious.  Inexperienced, Christian evangelical who wants to teach creationism instead of evolution.  MCain just blew his maverick credentials big time, and opened up a gaping hole for attack.

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Or Kill Me / Re: I got fooled.
« on: August 29, 2008, 02:49:38 pm »
Hillary as cargo cult... That's brilliant, Cain.

Well the pro-Clinton bloggers who went on to form PUMA are essentially just that.  Its totally removed from cause and effect.  They care more about Clinton as a political figure than they do for her policies - which are closer to Obama than McCain, who they now support.  Its cargo cultism all the way.  They literally watch her speeches for coded messages to show her disapproval of Obama, even when she is praising him.

Its bizzare and a little sad.  And the best reason to pick on PUMA, bar none.

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Propaganda Depository / Re: Radio Free Discordia
« on: August 29, 2008, 02:40:11 pm »
I have no money.

I have no time or privacy to record with....at the moment.

On the upside, I seem to have fixed my computer (cross-fingers).

Oh no, I haven't.



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Or Kill Me / Re: I got fooled.
« on: August 29, 2008, 02:02:49 pm »
What TGRR said.

And also, -10 pts for using the Fox News "messiah" bullshit. 

As a former Obama supporter, I can state the term 'messiah' is completely accurate in the effect he has on his followers.

Let me get this straight.  A candidate has actually evoked strong feelings and passions in people, to the point where they want to be involved in the political process, instead of just being wedged into their Cheetoh encrustec couch, and you wanna go and label them as mindless worshippers?  Has it ever crossed your, oh so enlightened mind, that perhaps, just perhaps, people are so tired of blubbering flesh bags like Bush and Cheney being in charge for 8 years that people are hankering for a different kind of leadership?  Do you expect them to get all hot and bothered by McCain who is all too willing to follow in the footsteps of the man who tarred and feathered his character in 2000?  Do you expect them go get excited about Ralph Nader?  Do you expect them to get excited by Bob fucking Barr? 

Is he going to create some monumental, earth shattering change?  Of course not.  And the Obama supporters I've met and talked to know that.  No, what Obama represents is an end to the monumental suck and fail policies of George W. Bush. 

So go ahead and label that fervor with some tired Fox News talkpoint cliche.  But clearly, sir, you have no fucking idea of what you are talking about. 

I've never spoken to such people either.  I know that theoretically they exist, but they are a minority.  Most Obama supporters I know and have conversed with are, as you say, sick of the last 8 years and see a chance for something that is not four more of the same, and are riding that chance as far as it will go and as hard as they can.

Amusingly, the messiah/cultist meme originated on the Clinton/PUMA sites....who have created their own cargo cult around the figure of Hillary.  Its an interesting case of projection.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Indecision 08 Wingnut thread
« on: August 29, 2008, 12:54:49 pm »
I'll be in hospital from before the convention.

"And up next, the Republican National Convention on BBC Parliament!"

O rly? According to who?  Do you know that for certain?  Are you physically there as they prepare the broadcast?  Do you have the necessary technical skills to know that the transmission feeds are working as they should?  Do you know if the RNC leadership has not infact ordered a bunch of 18 year old rent boys and coke and will not be able to make any speeches until tomorrow?  Huh, HUH!?!?!!?

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This board is still more occult than EB&G.  Unless under 10 posts a day is some sort of Kabbalah ritual they partake in.

Hang around here instead.  I don't mind occult-y sorts, so long as thats not all they bring to the table (like most people, really), and they're not TROO REAL OCCULT MASTERS FROM BEYOND TIME AND SPACE.  IOW, Grant Morrison-esque sorts are fine.

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Indecision 08 Wingnut thread
« on: August 29, 2008, 12:47:39 pm »
BBC Parliament is so fucking dead with the summer holidays happening, they've been showing the full speeches from the convention.  The Senator from PA seemed to go down well.  He seemed to get something of a chant going in the crowd with his speech, which was one of the more direct attacks on McCain, IIRC.

I haven't watched too much, to be honest, but I am looking forward to the Republican convention.  I'm going to take a shot every time someone mentions an actual policy position.  I expect to be stone cold sober all week.

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Propaganda Depository / Re: Radio Free Discordia
« on: August 29, 2008, 12:38:24 pm »
I have no money.

I have no time or privacy to record with....at the moment.

On the upside, I seem to have fixed my computer (cross-fingers).

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Or Kill Me / Re: I got fooled.
« on: August 29, 2008, 12:36:42 pm »
Why do I get the feeling nB learnt economics from Milton Friedman's Big Book of Economic Bed Time Stories?

I mean, apart from the fact he gained his economic 'knowledge' in the US, where Chicago school hacks proliferate.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Books That No One Should Read
« on: August 29, 2008, 10:26:39 am »
Influential =/= good reading.  Mein Kampf was influential, and it was still crap.  Kant's Critique of Pure Reason was influential, and also crap.  The Koran is hella influential, and possibly even more shit than the Bible (more coherent, but less psychedelic apocalyptic imagery to make up for wading through hundreds of pages of crap).

And if I wanted to know my enemy, why would I read the Bible?  Its clear they haven't, or else we wouldn't be having a problem.

The funny thing about knowledge is that not everything worth knowing is fun to learn.

Keep shifting those goal posts.

Now wtf are you talking about?
The thread is called "books that no one should read", not, "books that we don't particularly enjoy." At St. John's College in Annapolis, which is not really religiously affiliated (despite its name), major religious texts are required reading. This is not because the school promotes the beliefs conveyed in those texts, but because they have had such a major impact on society since they were written that any intelligent, well rounded individual should be familiar. The Principia Discordia isn't exactly a brilliant piece of literature either, or anyway, it has no more literary merit than the bible. I could preach misinterpretations to a bunch of people too and have them turn it into something gross, and would you then say because of those people that nobody should read the Principia anymore as well?


Who said anything about society?

Oh yeah, you.

I said it was a crap piece of writing with no real influence, a fact that can be verified by, a) reading the whole thing or b) reading the Sermon on the Mount (10 minutes) then going to a Christian Church and seeing what they preach (homophobia, hatred, ethnocentrism, conformity to authority etc).

Reading Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas and Augustine will tell you a thousand times more about Christianity than a shitty piece of Jewish literature.  Studying the economic and political power of the Vatican and the collapse of Rome will tell you more about the society of the Middle Ages than reading the Bible.  In fact, when you list all the things that can tell you about the world as it really is, and Christians as they really act, the Bible is near the bottom of the list.  The Bible can barely tell us about Jesus's own time, or Jewish history, so riddled with factual errors, grandiose claims based on religious impulse and stripped of any socio-economic factors as it is.  Its only use is to show up Christians engaged in acts of hypocrisy, and since they cannot grasp that concept (Altermeyer's The Authoritarians makes the case for mental compartmentalization among authoritarian followers), there is no real point in doing so anyway.

BUT BUT BUT YUO HAVE TO READ THA BIBLE, RITE?  CUZ, UM, ITS LIEK, UH, VERY IMPORTANT AND STUFF?

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