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Principia Discussion / Re: It was a sociological experiment!
« on: February 15, 2008, 12:47:49 pm »
Probably.  He's an English major, its not like he ever actually has to use his brain anyway....only easier pickings are Theology students.

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Principia Discussion / Re: It was a sociological experiment!
« on: February 15, 2008, 12:43:34 pm »
:mittens:

You think thats bad?  I had a bet on with a friend there would at least be one high school/workplace/University shooting yesterday.  Because my friend is an idiot, he took me up on that.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Favorite Song Lyrics/Poetry
« on: February 15, 2008, 12:07:43 pm »
Modest Mouse do too many good songs.  I am suspicious.

Saul Williams - Telegram

I'm falling up flights of stairs,
scraping myself from the sidewalk,
jumping from rivers to bridges,
drowning in pure air

Hip Hop is lying on the side of the road,
half dead to itself
Blood scrawled over its mangled flesh,
like jazz, stuffed into an oversized record bag

Tuba lips swollen beyond recognition
Diamond studded teeth strewn like rice at karma's wedding
The ring bearer bore bad news
Minister of information wrote the wrong proclamation

Now everyone's singing the wrong song
Dissonant chords find necks like nooses
That nigga kicked the chair from under my feet
Harlem shaking from a rope, but still on beat

"Damn that loop is tight" Nigga,
found a way to sample the way the truth the light
Can't wait to play myself at the party tonight
Niggas are gonna die

Cop car swerves to the side of the road
Hip Hop takes its last breath
The cop scrawls vernacular manslaughter onto a yellow pad,
then balls the paper into his hand, deciding he'd rather free-style

"You have the right to remain silent"
You have the right to remain silent
You have the right to remain silent.
And maybe you should have before your bullshit manifested.

These thugs can't fuck with me, they're too thugged out
Niggas think I'm bugged out, 'cause I ain't Sean John or Lugged out
This ain't hip hop no more, son, it's bigger than that.
This ain't ghetto no more, black, it's bigger than black

So where my aliens at? Girl, we're all illegal
This system ain't for us it's for rich people
And you ain't rich, dawg, you just got money
But you can't buy shit to not get hungry.

Telegram to Hip Hop:
Dear Hip Hop .(stop)
This shit has gone too far (stop)
Please see that mixer and turntables are returned to Kool Herc. (stop)

The ghettos are dancing off beat. (stop)
The master of ceremonies have forgotten
that they were once slaves and have neglected
the occasion of this ceremony. (stop)

Perhaps we should not have encouraged them
to use cordless microphones,
for they have walked too far from the source
and are emitting a lesser frequency (stop).

Please inform all interested parties
that cash nor murder have been added to the list of elements. (stop)
We are discontinuing our current line of braggadocio,
in light of the current trend in "realness". (stop)

As an alternative, we will be confiscating weed supplies
and replacing them with magic mushrooms,
in hopes of helping niggas see beyond their reality. (stop)
Give my regards to Brooklyn

These thugs can't fuck with me, they're too thugged out
Niggas think I'm bugged out, 'cause I ain't Sean John or Lugged out
This ain't hip hop no more, son, it's bigger than that.
This ain't ghetto no more, black, it's bigger than black

So where my aliens at? Girl, we're all illegal.
This system ain't for us, it's for rich people
And you ain't rich, dawg, you just got money
But you can't buy shit to not get hungry

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Principia Discussion / Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« on: February 14, 2008, 11:59:13 pm »
Ancient Greekfags, unite!

Wait, that came out wrong...

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Aneristic Illusions / Re: Random News Stories
« on: February 14, 2008, 11:54:11 pm »
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/14/usa.georgebush?gusrc=rss&feed=worldnews


George Bush's fellow Republicans walked out of Congress today, staging a dramatic display to support giving the president long-term authority to eavesdrop on Americans without a warrant.

The current law allowing the Bush administration to wiretap without a warrant expires Saturday, and congressional Democrats have sought a temporary extension to allow more time for negotiating between the Senate and the House of Representatives on a new plan.

But Bush has threatened to veto a short-term extension of the very law he helped write, and House Republicans backed him up today by storming out of the Capitol to protest Democratic inaction on the White House's new preferred eavesdropping proposal.

"We need this [new] bill to be brought to the floor of the House we will have made America safer and this fight will be over," John Boehner, the House Republican leader, told reporters.

The bitter falling out came hours after liberals and conservatives in the House banded together to defeat a three-week extension of the current wiretapping law, which allows the administration to monitor communications between US citizens and foreigners without court approval.

Democratic leaders have suggested since that they are inclined to let the law lapse.

"If there is no extension, it is solely in the hands of the president of the United States. He has tried to frighten the American people," the Senate's Democratic leader, Harry Reid, said. "But having said that we'll continue today to see if we can get this [law] extended."

Bush wants Congress to pass the Senate's bipartisan wiretap bill, providing a six-year window for unfettered surveillance of phone calls and e-mails that the administration believes are tied to terrorism. Democrats largely prefer the House's bill, which contains more civil liberties protections for Americans.

Most significantly, the House bill does not offer legal amnesty to the telecommunications companies that allowed the administration to spy on their customers without a warrant.

"The Senate bill will provide fair and just liability protection for companies that assisted in the efforts to protect America after the attacks of September the 11th," Bush said today.

"Without this protection, without this liability shield, we may not be able to secure the private sector's cooperation with our intelligence efforts."

But the expiration of the current law does not stop the Bush administration from wiretapping without a warrant, as Democrats often note. Spying on already identified targets can continue for up to one year, and new surveillance targets can be chosen after consultation with the secret foreign intelligence court that formerly supervised US wiretaps.

Ben Powell, general counsel for the director of national intelligence, said that scenario would not be sufficient for the administration. He told reporters that US spy agencies should not have to show probable cause before eavesdropping on phone calls made to overseas locations.

The House Republicans vowed to remain in Congress until the Senate wiretapping bill is passed, and Bush said he would postpone a planned trip to Africa if Democrats did not act. But the new majority in Congress appears ready to stand its ground and blame Bush's allies for opposing a temporary extension of current law.

"I think that the president is beginning to learn, even though it's slow What should happen is, the president should give the House and Senate time to act, as we've done for 230 years," Reid said.

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Principia Discussion / Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« on: February 14, 2008, 11:46:34 pm »
I am.

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Principia Discussion / Re: It's pronounced EE-RIS.
« on: February 14, 2008, 10:57:11 pm »
IN YOUR FACE!

Also, I tend to agree.  Very similar to Badger, I always pronounced it that way and was never called out on it by my Classical studies professors.  Of course, Eris didn't come up much, but I managed to sneak her into a few discussions.

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Discordian Recipes / Re: Simple Dinner Ideas?
« on: February 14, 2008, 10:39:44 pm »
   *** Cramulus joined #discord
22:33   Cramulus   ah christ he's back already
22:33      *** Telarus joined #discord
22:33   Idem   what
22:33   Cramulus   me that is
22:34   Cramulus   I've decided on D-Cup's honey boobs idea
22:34   Cramulus   wow what a great sentence
22:34   Cain   we should make more jokes about D-cups honey boobs
22:38   Cain   *tumbleweed*
22:39   Idem   lol
22:39   Cramulus   THEY'RE DELICIOUS!
22:39   Cramulus   HOWEVER, THEY'RE FAR FROM D-SIZE
22:39   fred_   BOOBS
22:39   fred_   WHAT
22:40   Cain   lets hope to gawd no-one posts this in the quotes thread
22:40   Cain   oshi, temptation
22:40   fred_   BWAHAHAH

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GASM Command / Re: Colbertgasm
« on: February 14, 2008, 10:05:36 pm »
I like the idea of getting some insiders.

BTW, if you do a board search for the term Discordian, you'll find more than a few posters who have publically referred to themselves as that.  I suggest contacting those first, and seeing how it goes from there, who they recommend etc

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Principia Discussion / Re: Dead thread - posted in error
« on: February 14, 2008, 09:39:08 pm »
This thread, in a nutshell, is the inherent danger of Discordianism.

That you end up posting spiteful threads on MLA?

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Principia Discussion / Re: Dead thread - posted in error
« on: February 14, 2008, 08:35:09 pm »

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Principia Discussion / Re: Dead thread - posted in error
« on: February 14, 2008, 08:27:13 pm »
He started an 8 page thread on MLA about how terrible PD.com is.

I believe Cramulus has read it all, I'll get around to it at some point.

Nigel beat the shit out of him though, so its all good.

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Principia Discussion / Re: Dead thread - posted in error
« on: February 14, 2008, 08:04:35 pm »
Bump.

Because Bogus Magus is still butthurt.

Quote
Ah well, I ain't gonna re-read it all. I never thought I'd see this thread again.

As the person who originally wandered out of this delightful MLA zone, (all naive about internet) with my hippie-trippy smile, looking for like-minded people, I shambled into the Principia Discordia site (wanting to link it, as I have, on the Only Maybe blog) and tried to open a thread for fellow newbies, after finding myself mistaken (?) for some naive idiot. Cosmic Schmuck, yes. Naive idiot? Only about money.

I then did a little local provocation by trying to create a self-referential Ourouboros thread (which had worked over here) and just succeeded in annoying the natives. (you can't keep re-editing your posts, apparently, it confuses people, and the timeline of linear conversation!)

I played around, got flamed, had a few amiable words by PM with people there who said they had too often been invaded by 'silly' people (or whatever you call young people who just discovered the joys of acting wicked, anarchic, noisy and stuff). I felt mildly upset that no-one recognised intelligence and provocativeness when they saw it, then made my apologies and left.

No hard feelings. We had a few jokes upon my return to this tribe, as I told the story of the big, wide, wicked world and my 'adventures' - and I never thought I'd see this thread again!

If you could see the earlier incarnations of this 'friendly forum' you'd know I did a bit of guard-dog myself - and got notorious for it at times...really wound up some of the magick folk.

So you can put me down as 'hypocrite', too.

I missed the gentleness, and the sense of humour (humor) with which we attempted to deal with people who came in and kicked off, here. (And I don't mean the mechanical 'spam' that got pretty annoying, but real people).

Many stayed, some became friends and regulars, others moved on. I, myself, calmed down, tried to 'graduate' after three years here, and no longer feel any need to defend the ethos.

But it remains the same.

If you can't achieve tolerance, at least attempt courtesy.

RAW made it quite clear that he had E-Primed that on purpose. Don't think of it as "If you can't be tolerant, at least be courteous." The struggle seems more evident, between attempting and achieving.

Oh, did I say this before? A new generation might prefer to feel 'doomed' and gloomy about the Black Iron Prison (I love a bit of PKD myself), but I prefer Bob and Bucky's mad optimism. And the jokes.

Just a personal preference.


Posted....2 days ago, on the MLA forum.

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Literate Chaotic / Re: Unofficial What are you Reading Thread?
« on: February 14, 2008, 06:52:06 pm »
Zodiac by Neal Stepehnson.

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GASM Command / Re: Colbertgasm
« on: February 14, 2008, 01:35:48 pm »
On the one hand, they can't take credit, as Discordanism is built into the entire aim.  Also, it makes us work with them and vice-versa, creating linkage between our two similar groups (there are a LOT of Discordians on the Colboards, given their size and relative Discordian distribution).

On the other hand, well, it depends if we want to use this to get the attention of people like the Colboards, or forge the alliance while undertaking the project, and hope some sort of mutual cooperation arises out of it.

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