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Started by Suu, May 30, 2010, 02:40:46 PM

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Quote from: Pēleus on June 04, 2010, 08:47:21 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP#BP_retail_brands

doesnt show costco or 711

7 Eleven gas stations offer Citgo, which is BP owned. And Costcos with gas stations do the same.
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I thought Venezuela owned Citgo.  When did that change? 
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Dysfunctional Cunt

I know a few people from here who were hired by BP (I think, didn't ask but not sure who else it would be) and they were sent to these classes and had to take these tests and are now down in Louisiana with free room and board in addition to getting paid $25.00 an hour.  They have signed contracts and have received paychecks, so I presume it's legitimate.  There were ads in the local newspaper and on TV.

Hell I would have done it if they would let you take your kids.  Few in this economy can pass up that kind of money.

I'd be doing what I really would like to do AND getting paid for it.  Because let's face it, cleanup of this fuckup is going to take years!

Dysfunctional Cunt

Oh and I don't know that I can boycott Subway.  Everywhere else on the list is not a problem, but Subway???  Them's some cheap eats for growing teenagers, it's been our "fast food" of choice for years.  It might prove to be impossible for me  :cry:

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Quote from: Suu on June 04, 2010, 05:14:43 AM
Btw, for those that want to boycott BP, here's a list of companies they own:

BP
Air BP
Aviation Fuels
Castrol
Valero
ARCO
AM/PM
Aral
BP Solar
Petra Solar
Wild Bean Cafe
Costco
Hess
Subway
7 Eleven
Citgo
Texaco

:|


This pretty much leaves your choice of gas for your car with Exxon/Fail and the Guccis, er...Shell. Fuck.

Also, no more delicious Subway sammiches. I knew those $5 footlongs were too good to be true.



7-11 (7 Eleven) is owned by 7&I Holdings in Japan. I'm not sure what connection they have to BP, but in terms of ownership, they are a HUGE overseas mega-corporation (there are more 7-11 stores in Japan than there are post offices, by the order of 4,000-5,000 stores). <http://finance.mapsofworld.com/company/7-and-i-holdings.html>

Where's the connection, outside of possible co-branded stores in the US? I didn't look through the others, but I never heard of a connection between those two.
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AFK

See, I don't know that a boycott of BP really makes that much sense.  So you end up getting your local BP gas station closed and then a Shell Oil gas station opens up in its place.  You put some people from your community out of work, but BP will still make a profit.

BP is the problem in this instance, but the larger problem is the entire oil industry and our unquenchable thirst for cheap energy.  Are we going to boycott ourselves?  Another large part of the problem is the failure of government oversight.  So are we going to boycott the federal government too?  

Trust me, I understand wanting to put the screws to BP, but that is really the job of our government and the government agencies in charge of keeping these operations running safely and soundly.  I think the effort put into rallying people to boycott would be better spent putting pressure on elected officials to demand a house cleaning at MMS.  And of course that this incident is thoroughly investigated and BP, Halliburton, and the other company pay out the nose for the costs of cleanup and lost business.  
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Suu

Quote from: Khara on June 04, 2010, 02:34:51 PM
Oh and I don't know that I can boycott Subway.  Everywhere else on the list is not a problem, but Subway???  Them's some cheap eats for growing teenagers, it's been our "fast food" of choice for years.  It might prove to be impossible for me  :cry:

I think they mean don't go to the ones in a Valero or BP station.
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Quote from: Suu on June 04, 2010, 03:17:22 PM
Quote from: Khara on June 04, 2010, 02:34:51 PM
Oh and I don't know that I can boycott Subway.  Everywhere else on the list is not a problem, but Subway???  Them's some cheap eats for growing teenagers, it's been our "fast food" of choice for years.  It might prove to be impossible for me  :cry:

I think they mean don't go to the ones in a Valero or BP station.

THAT I can do easily!!

Cramulus


Zyzyx

BP has one of the most stringent safety programs in the industry as far as their offshore enterprises are concerned, but their safety /record/ is another story entirely.

http://www.businessinsider.com/bp-has-been-fined-by-osha-760-times-has-an-awful-track-record-for-safety-2010-6

People in the know tend to agree from the evidence that BP is hard to work for, yet at the same time sports a disastrous number of mishaps on their record. It may just be proof that no matter how hard you try, people will find a way to fuck it up.

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Quote from: Zyzyx on June 04, 2010, 04:21:54 PM
BP has one of the most stringent safety programs in the industry as far as their offshore enterprises are concerned, but their safety /record/ is another story entirely.

http://www.businessinsider.com/bp-has-been-fined-by-osha-760-times-has-an-awful-track-record-for-safety-2010-6

People in the know tend to agree from the evidence that BP is hard to work for, yet at the same time sports a disastrous number of mishaps on their record. It may just be proof that no matter how hard you try, people will find a way to fuck it up.

Humans working in environments that humans can't survive in.... what other possibility could there be?

As much as I am horrified by this terrible accident, boycotting BP isn't gonna clean a single seagull. There are accusations of incompetence, of shortcuts to save money... but for fucks sake... it came from the 24 hour news networks... who the fuck believes what they have to say?

The world runs on oil. Companies like BP provide that oil. It's in their best interests from a financial, PR, and product position not to lose huge amounts of oil in a environmental disaster. It's not like the CEO is twirling his mustache and rubbing his hand s together at the thought of destroying countless lives... MAYBE they fucked up. MAYBE they tried to take a shortcut, or MAYBE this would have happened no matter what they did.

If you want to be pissed at this moment, be pissed at the US government which played patty cake with all of Big Oil... be pissed at the last administration that thought Mineral Management meant whores, drugs and parties.  And more still... be pissed at yourself and me and the rest of us monkeys who are ever increasing the demand for oil.

Once the facts are in, if BP is truly guilty of negligence, the US government and US consumers will rightly be able to take their pound of flesh. But it will be a hypocritical pound of flesh... cause we won't change our behaviors.

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Quote from: Ratatosk on June 04, 2010, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: Zyzyx on June 04, 2010, 04:21:54 PM
BP has one of the most stringent safety programs in the industry as far as their offshore enterprises are concerned, but their safety /record/ is another story entirely.

http://www.businessinsider.com/bp-has-been-fined-by-osha-760-times-has-an-awful-track-record-for-safety-2010-6

People in the know tend to agree from the evidence that BP is hard to work for, yet at the same time sports a disastrous number of mishaps on their record. It may just be proof that no matter how hard you try, people will find a way to fuck it up.

Humans working in environments that humans can't survive in.... what other possibility could there be?

As much as I am horrified by this terrible accident, boycotting BP isn't gonna clean a single seagull. There are accusations of incompetence, of shortcuts to save money... but for fucks sake... it came from the 24 hour news networks... who the fuck believes what they have to say?

The world runs on oil. Companies like BP provide that oil. It's in their best interests from a financial, PR, and product position not to lose huge amounts of oil in a environmental disaster. It's not like the CEO is twirling his mustache and rubbing his hand s together at the thought of destroying countless lives... MAYBE they fucked up. MAYBE they tried to take a shortcut, or MAYBE this would have happened no matter what they did.

If you want to be pissed at this moment, be pissed at the US government which played patty cake with all of Big Oil... be pissed at the last administration that thought Mineral Management meant whores, drugs and parties.  And more still... be pissed at yourself and me and the rest of us monkeys who are ever increasing the demand for oil.

Once the facts are in, if BP is truly guilty of negligence, the US government and US consumers will rightly be able to take their pound of flesh. But it will be a hypocritical pound of flesh... cause we won't change our behaviors.

:horrormirth:

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You want to boycott the real root cause? Really? Truly? Sincerely?

Liar - do you fuck as like! :lulz:

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Quote from: Ratatosk on June 04, 2010, 04:39:45 PM
As much as I am horrified by this terrible accident, boycotting BP isn't gonna clean a single seagull.

yeah. zillions of kudos to those who actually go up there and help clean up. those people ROCK.




also, Shell is a Dutch company! Support my economy! YAY


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Quote from: Ratatosk on June 04, 2010, 04:39:45 PM
Quote from: Zyzyx on June 04, 2010, 04:21:54 PM
BP has one of the most stringent safety programs in the industry as far as their offshore enterprises are concerned, but their safety /record/ is another story entirely.

http://www.businessinsider.com/bp-has-been-fined-by-osha-760-times-has-an-awful-track-record-for-safety-2010-6

People in the know tend to agree from the evidence that BP is hard to work for, yet at the same time sports a disastrous number of mishaps on their record. It may just be proof that no matter how hard you try, people will find a way to fuck it up.

Humans working in environments that humans can't survive in.... what other possibility could there be?

As much as I am horrified by this terrible accident, boycotting BP isn't gonna clean a single seagull. There are accusations of incompetence, of shortcuts to save money... but for fucks sake... it came from the 24 hour news networks... who the fuck believes what they have to say?

The world runs on oil. Companies like BP provide that oil. It's in their best interests from a financial, PR, and product position not to lose huge amounts of oil in a environmental disaster. It's not like the CEO is twirling his mustache and rubbing his hand s together at the thought of destroying countless lives... MAYBE they fucked up. MAYBE they tried to take a shortcut, or MAYBE this would have happened no matter what they did.

If you want to be pissed at this moment, be pissed at the US government which played patty cake with all of Big Oil... be pissed at the last administration that thought Mineral Management meant whores, drugs and parties.  And more still... be pissed at yourself and me and the rest of us monkeys who are ever increasing the demand for oil.

Once the facts are in, if BP is truly guilty of negligence, the US government and US consumers will rightly be able to take their pound of flesh. But it will be a hypocritical pound of flesh... cause we won't change our behaviors.

:horrormirth:

Umm, yes, all of this. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Suu

Quote from: Triple Zero on June 04, 2010, 05:29:16 PM
Quote from: Ratatosk on June 04, 2010, 04:39:45 PM
As much as I am horrified by this terrible accident, boycotting BP isn't gonna clean a single seagull.

yeah. zillions of kudos to those who actually go up there and help clean up. those people ROCK.




also, Shell is a Dutch company! Support my economy! YAY


eh.

Tell them to lower their prices first.

-Suu
Is still a consumer, and Exxon across the street is 3 cents cheaper.
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