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The Official Unlimited Oil Spill Thread!

Started by Suu, May 30, 2010, 02:40:46 PM

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the last yatto

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 02, 2010, 01:22:55 PM
Quote from: Pēleus on June 02, 2010, 10:19:25 AM
Quote from: Triple Zero on June 01, 2010, 06:51:05 PM
I still think that a government should be able to at least TRY and deal with disasters like these.

what if you already have a good deal of resources located else where like say Haiti

If the government has something in Haiti that would help them plug up the hole, they are seriously, seriously doing it very, very wrong.  

was thinking manpower, engineers build roads, DAMS and other shit dont they?

there isnt a simple fix*, like  buy out the hay from like two or three states,
as livestock would starved just to protect the coastline


* this of course doesnt factor in Russia's advise of the nuke option
Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

Suu

Quote from: Satzanfang on June 02, 2010, 10:54:26 PM
After the Exxon Valdez spill, the judge set the punitive fine to $5 billion - one year's worth of Exxon profits.  Exxon fought the fine all the way down to $507 million, or about 1/10th of the original.   So I don't think we'll be getting much out of BP.

Fun fact: JP Morgan created the first credit default swap to deal with the $4.8 billion loan they initially made to Exxon for it to pay the fine.

reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon_Valdez_oil_spill#Litigation_and_cleanup_costs

They're STILL cleaning up oil from the Valdez, even though Exxon said that it was done in what, 1992? Fucking liars.
Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Sir Squid Diddimus

Quote from: Hawk on June 02, 2010, 07:05:52 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 02, 2010, 07:01:07 PM
Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on June 02, 2010, 04:57:46 PM
We can have our space men fix it!
Send in the space men!!


I love the space men  :sad:

They're all working as celebrity board members for banks, now.

Sorry about that.

I knew several who were working for Martin Marietta with six figure salaries and very clean desktops.

Is now Lockheed Martin. I work across the street from ..... the area where their gate begins.. 

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: Regret on June 02, 2010, 06:02:01 PM
Quote from: Suu on June 02, 2010, 11:08:48 AM
Yesterday on the news over my delicious gyro at a tiny happy Greek place here in Providence, I overheard that the US is looking into criminal charges against BP. I haven't looked for the source yet...but I can't think of a better way for America to get out of debt than to sue the pants off of a foreign oil corporation.


I think i figured out who made the leak happen in the first place.
US govt needs money, BP has money.
US sues BP, gets lots of money and massive public support for more limits on corporations.
Who knows? maybe this will lead to a lessening of corporate power.

Does every post you make have to turn into an anti-corporate screed? Why don't you just go join the Black Bloc and live in the back of a van, for fuck's sake? Or, alternately, you could try learning a little bit about how the world actually works and maybe you'd realize that painting with a wide enough brush to be "anti corporation" is as useless and stupid a thing as you could possibly be doing in this day and age.

After all, I've been incorporated since 2003 so I must be a horrible inhuman world-destroyer, right?
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: vexati0n on June 02, 2010, 09:08:49 PM
well to be fair, nobody ever really cared about alaska.

to be fair, most of us don't care about Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, or Florida either.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

tyrannosaurus vex

Quote from: Exit City Hustle on June 03, 2010, 05:14:47 PM
Quote from: Regret on June 02, 2010, 06:02:01 PM
Quote from: Suu on June 02, 2010, 11:08:48 AM
Yesterday on the news over my delicious gyro at a tiny happy Greek place here in Providence, I overheard that the US is looking into criminal charges against BP. I haven't looked for the source yet...but I can't think of a better way for America to get out of debt than to sue the pants off of a foreign oil corporation.


I think i figured out who made the leak happen in the first place.
US govt needs money, BP has money.
US sues BP, gets lots of money and massive public support for more limits on corporations.
Who knows? maybe this will lead to a lessening of corporate power.

Does every post you make have to turn into an anti-corporate screed? Why don't you just go join the Black Bloc and live in the back of a van, for fuck's sake? Or, alternately, you could try learning a little bit about how the world actually works and maybe you'd realize that painting with a wide enough brush to be "anti corporation" is as useless and stupid a thing as you could possibly be doing in this day and age.

After all, I've been incorporated since 2003 so I must be a horrible inhuman world-destroyer, right?

Well you are but not because you're incorporated.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

East Coast Hustle

Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Sir Squid Diddimus

Quote from: Exit City Hustle on June 03, 2010, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on June 02, 2010, 09:08:49 PM
well to be fair, nobody ever really cared about alaska.

to be fair, most of us don't care about Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, or Florida either.

This is true.
Until something happens to their seafood. Then suddenly, people care.
I may hate this place, but I don't want dead bloated oily animals washing up on my beaches.
The tourists do a good enough job of being dead bloated and oily on the beach.

Dysfunctional Cunt

Quote from: Turdley Burgleson on June 03, 2010, 05:27:51 PM
Quote from: Exit City Hustle on June 03, 2010, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on June 02, 2010, 09:08:49 PM
well to be fair, nobody ever really cared about alaska.

to be fair, most of us don't care about Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, or Florida either.

This is true.
Until something happens to their seafood. Then suddenly, people care.
I may hate this place, but I don't want dead bloated oily animals washing up on my beaches.
The tourists do a good enough job of being dead bloated and oily on the beach.

:mittens:


Suu

Sovereign Episkopos-Princess Kaousuu; Esq., Battle Nun, Bene Gesserit.
Our Lady of Perpetual Confusion; 1st Church of Discordia

"Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange, and pretend you're laughing at it."

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Exit City Hustle on June 03, 2010, 05:14:47 PM
Quote from: Regret on June 02, 2010, 06:02:01 PM
Quote from: Suu on June 02, 2010, 11:08:48 AM
Yesterday on the news over my delicious gyro at a tiny happy Greek place here in Providence, I overheard that the US is looking into criminal charges against BP. I haven't looked for the source yet...but I can't think of a better way for America to get out of debt than to sue the pants off of a foreign oil corporation.


I think i figured out who made the leak happen in the first place.
US govt needs money, BP has money.
US sues BP, gets lots of money and massive public support for more limits on corporations.
Who knows? maybe this will lead to a lessening of corporate power.

Does every post you make have to turn into an anti-corporate screed? Why don't you just go join the Black Bloc and live in the back of a van, for fuck's sake? Or, alternately, you could try learning a little bit about how the world actually works and maybe you'd realize that painting with a wide enough brush to be "anti corporation" is as useless and stupid a thing as you could possibly be doing in this day and age.

After all, I've been incorporated since 2003 so I must be a horrible inhuman world-destroyer, right?

Also, I work for Big Oil, and we don't do this shit.

Molon Lube

Zyzyx

Being from the area and having worked offshore on survey jobs, I can say that the whole industry is awash with fucktards, from the top all the way down. People just were lazy, mediocre and uncaring in what is a potentially disastrous enterprise. I could go on and on about the self-reflexive nature of human worldview these days, but. Doesn't really change what happened out there.

Juana

Quote from: Suu on June 04, 2010, 03:11:44 AM
I...just burst into tears.

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/caught_in_the_oil.html
That's fucking awful. Absolutely awful. The fuckers who are responsible ought to be drowned in what the workers pull off the animals and the beaches.
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."

Sir Squid Diddimus

Quote from: Hover Cat on June 04, 2010, 03:48:08 AM
Quote from: Suu on June 04, 2010, 03:11:44 AM
I...just burst into tears.

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/caught_in_the_oil.html
That's fucking awful. Absolutely awful. The fuckers who are responsible ought to be drowned in what the workers pull off the animals and the beaches.

That's just a glimpse

Juana

I don't even want to think about the rest of it, frankly.
"I dispose of obsolete meat machines.  Not because I hate them (I do) and not because they deserve it (they do), but because they are in the way and those older ones don't meet emissions codes.  They emit too much.  You don't like them and I don't like them, so spare me the hysteria."