The Official Unlimited Oil Spill Thread!

[Suu]

Where IS your navy, anyway?

Hungover after drinking in my bar all day yesterday.

I mean, over here if our dikes would break or something would flood at the coast our navy would be all over it [it's one of the things I consider them most useful for]. Similar in Austria, where the army (or airforce, I forget) is mostly occupying themselves with saving people that get lost in the mountains or avalanches.

You're also talking about countries the size of our smaller states.

[Adios]

Where IS your navy, anyway?

Hungover after drinking in my bar all day yesterday.

I mean, over here if our dikes would break or something would flood at the coast our navy would be all over it [it's one of the things I consider them most useful for]. Similar in Austria, where the army (or airforce, I forget) is mostly occupying themselves with saving people that get lost in the mountains or avalanches.

You're also talking about countries the size of our smaller states.

We are building an Empire goddammit! We don't have time for your oil spill.

[AFK]

Maybe I can put it another way. 

It feels like the destructive disorder that is the oil spill requires some creative order to fight it. 
I'm just not feeling that what the Obama administration and BP are doing fits that bill.  I think perhaps it is more like destructive order because it is relying upon hamstrung procedures.  It seems like it needs more "out of the box" thinking.  And maybe it's there and just not working.  But the communications from both the Administration and BP have done little to convince me they are straying to far from conventional thinking. 

But beyond that.  Seriously, we really need to stop drilling holes in the Earth when we seemingly don't have the technology to cork them if they get fucked up. 

[Bebek Sincap Ratatosk]

But beyond that.  Seriously, we really need to stop drilling holes in the Earth when we seemingly don't have the technology to cork them if they get fucked up. 

THIS

[Remington]

ITT, America learns the value of pre-drilled relief wells, and the dangers of letting industry giants write official government regulations.

[AFK]

ITT, America learns the value of pre-drilled relief wells, and the dangers of letting industry giants write official government regulations.

I have a feeling you are being overly optimistic. 

[Freeky]

ITT, America learns the value of pre-drilled relief wells, and the dangers of letting industry giants write official government regulations.

Learning? In my America?

That's a funny joke, Remmy.

[AFK]

Good News everyone!!!

James Cameron is going to save us!

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37453610/ns/today-entertainment/

Maybe they should be asking Michael Bey as well.  Maybe he can fix it with one of his Hollywood Splosions!

[Remington]

Meh, screw it. How about we plug the hole with BP executives and call it a day?

[Freeky]

Good News everyone!!!

James Cameron is going to save us!

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/37453610/ns/today-entertainment/

Maybe they should be asking Michael Bey as well.  Maybe he can fix it with one of his Hollywood Splosions!

Okay, it's gone from horrifying and awful to funny, how inept these people are.

[Juana]

Meh, screw it. How about we plug the hole with BP executives and call it a day?

I would support this. Cap it off with cement.

During Waterworld, Kevin Costner funded the development of something that's supposed to help.

While he was working on that film, Costner paid scientists millions of dollars to develop a device that could do what his fictional character's invention could do in the film: purify ocean water. Working prototypes of the device actually exist, which Costner has dubbed "Ocean Therapy." Now, with the approval of the Army Corps of Engineers, British Petroleum has given the go-ahead for Costner to test six of his devices to help clean up the massive oil spill in the Gulf.
...
Costner's machines use centrifuge technology to separate oil from water, rendering the water 97% pure. "It's like a big vacuum cleaner," explained one of Costner's business partners. Costner, a longtime environmentalist, was glad that his invention would finally be deployed, but saddend at the occasion. "We've moved this to a technology that we know works, and has worked for a long time," Costner said, "It's prepared to go out and solve problems, not talk about them." He added: "I just [am] really happy that the light of day has come to this, and I'm sad about why it is. But this is why it was developed, and like in anything that we face as a group, we all face it together."

A claim by Arthur Robinson (the editor of the newsletter Access To Energy) is being brought up again, where he said that:

"As for oil spills in the open and deep ocean, they amount to far less than natural seeps and river runoff, and any unbiased oceanographer will confirm that they are a boon to marine life, inflicting damage mainly on the oil and shipping companies. For crude oil is a natural, organic, biodegradable product of the earth's ancient plant and animal life, and it is this type of hydrocarbon that marine life in the open and deep ocean is starved for."

And a dolphin and a sea turtle have already washed up and been confirmed to have died from oil damage - a lot of others have, too, of course, but these are the first ones to be confirmed as such.
Picture of the dolphin. It's pretty horrifying, so I don't think I'll post the picture itself.

[Suu]

I refuse to look at the dead dolphin. RE-FUCKING-FUSE.

[Reginald Ret]

I refuse to look at the dead dolphin. RE-FUCKING-FUSE.

Smart woman, i wish i had your discipline.
yes, i clicked.
yes, i am sadder now.

[Telarus]

REALLY? AWFUCKTHEM....

http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/05/30/1548218/BP-Knew-of-Deepwater-Horizon-Problems-11-Months-Ago

jkinney3 was one of several readers to send in news of recently discovered internal documents from BP which indicate the company knew: "there were serious problems and safety concerns with the Deepwater Horizon rig far earlier than those the company described to Congress last week." According to the New York Times, "The documents show that in March, after several weeks of problems on the rig, BP was struggling with a loss of 'well control.' And as far back as 11 months ago, it was concerned about the well casing and the blowout preventer." Reader bezenek points out this troubling quote about BP's inconsistent risk assessments: "In April of this year, BP engineers concluded that the casing was 'unlikely to be a successful cement job,' according to a document, referring to how the casing would be sealed to prevent gases from escaping up the well. The document also says that the plan for casing the well is 'unable to fulfill M.M.S. regulations,' referring to the Minerals Management Service. A second version of the same document says 'It is possible to obtain a successful cement job' and 'It is possible to fulfill M.M.S. regulations.'"

Link to quoted article: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/30/us/30rig.html?pagewanted=all

[East Coast Hustle]

Ugh.

Don't worry, that's not actually oil. It's just the runoff from Bourbon St.