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The pitiful whine of the political activist

Started by P3nT4gR4m, November 03, 2006, 10:22:20 AM

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Someone asked me to give a shit the other day. "About what?" I asked.

"About the state of the world, globalisation, global warming, terrorism, the plight of the humpback whale..."

"Why should I give a flying fuck about any of that?" I enquired

"Because," I was told patronisingly, "it affects you."

"Beg to differ." I responded, in an equally patronising tone "I'm happy ergo none of it has affected me."

"But it will affect you, real soon if you don't do something about it now."

"Listen sunshine." I replied, "I bought that shit during the cold war. We were all going to die in the next week or so. I did my bit, I joined CND, I went to demos, I spent 3 or 4 years of my life depressed out my tits, refusing to make any plans cos there was no point, we were prolly going to die tomorrow."

Guess what? I'm still here. Oh but that's right the cold war was just an elabourate sham, it never ammounted to anything. Of course now the threat is very real. Terrorists will have nukes soon and theyll blow us up, for definite this time. Global warming is going to make the planet uninhabitable within the next 45 minutes.

Sorry but I just aint buying it. So some rag headed fuckwit with a fatwa attitude might nuke me tomorrow. I might get hit by a bus, cancer, a serial killer could get me... there's a whole bunch of shit that might affect me in the very near future but I point blank refuse to get pissed off about it now, in fact, if I am going to die tomorrow it's all the more reason not to let it spoil my last day here.

Fact is that getting pissed off about the state of the world never changed anything. We celebrated when the soviet union fell and the wall came down but what happened? It all got worse. Actually it never got worse - it stayed exactly the same and thats the trap that the political activist digs for himself. He puts on a balaclava, grabs a packard and sets about changing whatever it is that is depressing the shit out him today then, as soon as it's changed he changes plackards and starts fighting whatever replaced it. And so on and so forth until eventually, horror of horror, he dies anyway. It's a never ending cycle of perceived threat after perceived threat. What do you want to get pissed off about today?

Truth is I don't want to get pissed off today. I'm perfectly happy to wait and be pissed off tomorrow, or the day after or next year. In fact the longer I can put off being pissed off the better as far as I'm concerned. And, lo and behold, if I don't seem to be perfectly happy, despite the fact that I should have been killed, imprisoned by fascists, had my books burned and been half dead by now, from radiation, pesticides, global warming and fuck knows what all else.

"But you're just living in denial"

Fine. I'm prepared to accept that. But I'm happy in denial. You, on the other hand, are miserable and, guess what? We're both going to die tomorrow! Don't you feel the least little bit stupid?

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Cain

I have no problems if people want to be apathetic.  They just shouldn't flaunt in my face at every opportunity.

Cain,
has been affected by terrorism, by increased government powers and doesn't feel the need to explain himself to anyone or anything else.

P3nT4gR4m

I've suffered my fair share of depressing shit. The choice I had to make was to come out smiling or come out frowning. I chose the former.

Quote from: Cain on November 03, 2006, 12:04:49 PM
I have no problems if people want to be apathetic. They just shouldn't flaunt in my face at every opportunity.

And vice versa. I hear a lot more from people who have a cause to crusade than people who are just enjoying their life. Hence the rant.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Cain

Hard to come out smiling when your family is dragged into a smear campaign because your father reported the facts he was meant to and did his job.  Hard to smile when you have to fly on a semi-regular basis and are searched every time.  Hard to smile when a relationship was ruined because of murderous thugs both in and out of power.  But I forgot, I should be a useless bliss-ninny and pretend everything is alright, shouldn't I?  Just because lube is sometimes applied before the fucking over doesn't mean I should smile and enjoy it.

LMNO

Oh yeah--- I forgot about your solipsistic nihilism, silly.





Dumb bastard.  There's a difference between seeing the big picture for what it is, and not giving a shit about anything but yourself.







"The password is-- COMPASSION."

P3nT4gR4m

Compassion is a sticky one for me. No matter how hard I try not to care I just can't do it. I feel for the people who are determined to wallow in misery. Maybe it's cos I've been there - clinical depression is no joke but you gotta laugh. Mom and stepdad drowning and the 6-oclock news refusing to let you forget about it is no joke but you gotta laugh. Being given a brain which doesn't work properly in a way which most folks take for granted is no joke....

What's the solution? Get depressed with them or try make light of the situation and spread a little laughter? Either way I'm fucked. No matter how hard I try not to I end up caring. Don't even think about lecturing me on compassion. I already got that monkey stuck to my back.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Cain

I laugh.  Just at other things.  Politics makes me depressed, I freely admit it.  Doesn't mean I still don't get joy from listening to a wonderful piece of music, a well written book, an expertly preformed mindfuck or a night out on the town with friends.

P3nT4gR4m

This is the point I'm (as usual) completely arsing up trying to make. You can either get depressed (I use 'pissed off' because depression is something completely different to me) or you can be happy. Given that most of the conflicts in this world seem to arise from people getting pissed off, maybe being happy is the answer.

Of course maybe there is no answer. Maybe it's a trick question. The only tactic I've found of any use to me is to take a step back and laugh at myself at the point where I'm wallowing in the pits of despair. I've found that 'm funny when I'm in pain and seeing the joke helps me not be in pain anymore. Getting pissed off about the pain doesn't.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Cain

Depression was probably a bad word, pissed off is in fact a much better description.  Sure, you can stand back, but thats playing into the role.  Look at TV, the papers, radio.  Authority wants to make itself all-powerful and all knowing, a Leviathan that cannot be defeated, be it a terrorist group or New Labour.  "Institutions are good, people are bad."  Apathy works as well as fear, because there is no resistance.

I know different.  I've talked with these people, I know who they are.  I know that at the heart of every mechanical system there are a few humans who are fallible and fuck up.  Who have their own wants, desire and fears.

You may want to read "The Analyst" by Kratzenbach.  Too many films and books today have the main character as either an authority figure or saved by one.  The main character in this book, when under assault, didn't become a victim, he turned the game around and became the predator.  It doesn't have to be that dramatic.  All I aim to be is a thorn in the side of the powers that be and upset them in any way I can.  One of the main movers behind the American Revolution started off in a very similar way, writing angry editorials in a Boston newspaper.

Sure, it didn't last.  But what does? It was good while it did and for a while, there was a place that held personal liberty as a high value, maybe the highest.  Once something has been done, it can be done again.  And even if it never happens, I'll be happy I have at least made the plans of some aneristic son of a bitch a failure.  Anything else is a victory for the other side, and Australians don't like coming second place.

LMNO

Quote from: SillyCybin on November 03, 2006, 01:41:04 PM
Compassion is a sticky one for me. No matter how hard I try not to care I just can't do it. I feel for the people who are determined to wallow in misery. Maybe it's cos I've been there - clinical depression is no joke but you gotta laugh. Mom and stepdad drowning and the 6-oclock news refusing to let you forget about it is no joke but you gotta laugh. Being given a brain which doesn't work properly in a way which most folks take for granted is no joke....

What's the solution? Get depressed with them or try make light of the situation and spread a little laughter? Either way I'm fucked. No matter how hard I try not to I end up caring. Don't even think about lecturing me on compassion. I already got that monkey stuck to my back.


Nothing in your rant indicated compassion.  If that's the point you were trying to make, you're pretty much advocating it's opposite.

I agree about staying on top of it all and not letting it get you down, but not through the examples/explainations you gave.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Cain on November 03, 2006, 02:18:30 PM
Depression was probably a bad word, pissed off is in fact a much better description. Sure, you can stand back, but thats playing into the role. Look at TV, the papers, radio. Authority wants to make itself all-powerful and all knowing, a Leviathan that cannot be defeated, be it a terrorist group or New Labour. "Institutions are good, people are bad." Apathy works as well as fear, because there is no resistance.

I know different. I've talked with these people, I know who they are. I know that at the heart of every mechanical system there are a few humans who are fallible and fuck up. Who have their own wants, desire and fears.

You may want to read "The Analyst" by Kratzenbach. Too many films and books today have the main character as either an authority figure or saved by one. The main character in this book, when under assault, didn't become a victim, he turned the game around and became the predator. It doesn't have to be that dramatic. All I aim to be is a thorn in the side of the powers that be and upset them in any way I can. One of the main movers behind the American Revolution started off in a very similar way, writing angry editorials in a Boston newspaper.

Sure, it didn't last. But what does? It was good while it did and for a while, there was a place that held personal liberty as a high value, maybe the highest. Once something has been done, it can be done again. And even if it never happens, I'll be happy I have at least made the plans of some aneristic son of a bitch a failure. Anything else is a victory for the other side, and Australians don't like coming second place.

Don't you think that by knowing what you know you have already defeated them? Allow me to explain my position. I see power as an illusion. Those who seek to be powerful (the only aim any 'great leader' has whether he realises it or not) are buying into this illusion and the only way they can pursue power is to convince others of the lie that is power. By seeing the monster and devoting your efforts to destroying it you are, in fact, feeding the illusion. I do what the girl did at the end of Nightmare on Elm St.1 did - turn my back on them, ignore them do not feed their ravenous hunger with my own projected contribution.

There was an election in this country a few years back and they ran an ad on Teevee - "please vote" (hardly anyone had bothered to turn up at the previous one) This was my victory. Do not justify their petty machinations with your hard earned contempt - they feed on hate as much as any other emotion. My 'apathy' probably makes them think they have me beat but the truth is they can't beat me because their victory is the hollow pursuit of the megalomaniac. I simply don't care if they think they have me beat for their victory is meaningless in my eyes.

They lock people like me up and still we're free. Free from their lies. Free to think thoughts that they don't want us thinking. Because we don't buy their bullshit in the first place means we have already defeated them. So a few of them will fuck people over and get massive great piles of material wealth. They're still nothing more than very rich fuckheads. Material wealth means nothing. I'd rather starve to death, a free man than get fat on the shit they feed me.

Don't let the bastards grind you down.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

LMNO

I call bullshit, ITT.

Apathy = lazy, and uncaring.

There's a difference between avoiding the traps of The Machine,Ñ¢, and simply letting it crush yourself and other people under it's treads.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: LMNO on November 03, 2006, 02:51:39 PM
Nothing in your rant indicated compassion.  If that's the point you were trying to make, you're pretty much advocating it's opposite.

I agree about staying on top of it all and not letting it get you down, but not through the examples/explainations you gave.

Look at the title of this thread - I'm the political activist and this is my pitiful whine. I just happen to take a different approach than waving banners and blowing up fast food chains.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

LMNO

Since when did "political activism == not giving a shit"?

Cain

Quote from: LMNO on November 03, 2006, 03:03:58 PM
Since when did "political activism == not giving a shit"?

Precisely what I wondered.  I can ignore the CoN all I want.  But I still get searched regulary.  My father is still denied promotions which would allow use to pay off the mortgage and live with more freedom from financial constraints.  So long as these people have the power to affect what is around me, then they are going to be a problem.