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Aneristic Strife

Started by LMNO, December 05, 2006, 02:37:06 PM

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Quote from: RWHNaneristic strife

This is from another thread, but I thought I'd throw it in here & see what happens.


I have a lot of work to do right now, but I promise to address it later.

Kick the phrase around, let's see what happens.

faust

strife caused by fearing disorder? would that not be every fear and strife ever?

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Awesome! I was thinking the complete opposite - rigid order leads to strife, chaos cannot be contained.

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faust

but it can be ignored, and is by almost every living person, thats why I assumed it would be people worried about losing their bubble, people are happy when theres no negative surprises.

LHX

its a struggle to contain discord


thats why some people beat their kids
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Aneristic Strife:

An internal subconscious conflict in which the orderly (left) side of the mind is conflicting with the desire or need of use of the chaotic (right) side of the mind.
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faust

Is being bored all the time a sign of balance or not giving a shit whats happening?

LHX

from my experience and observation, boredom is always followed by a period of terror

or at the least some extreme turbulence
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Aneristic Strife.
I read it as general disorder which comes about from the appearance of order.
Like the cracks in a vase or something.

It could be a word for entropy.  It could be a word for the conflict riddled attempts of people to maintain their Aneristic illusion.

Maybe it is strife between those caught up in the aneristic illusion, and can be seen symbolically as some sort of absurdist argument where both sides are equally as wrong and still ready to kill eachother over it.

But that was just my stream of conciousness talking.

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I think Aneristic Strife would be a condition caused by an undue impoition of order on the consensual paradigm.

and it wouldn't be a sudden flash.

more like a long slow chafing. the worst indian burn of all time.

for how long is something like that tolerable?
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I'm with ECH.  It would be the friction between the real and percieved condition of reality.  For example, Communism.  Or any totalitarian system, which claims to have all the answers.

But in reality it would be the same as the Imposition of Order = escalation of Chaos.  You set up a view of the world as it should be and enforce it by making bits that don't think vanish (instead of considering why if something was real already it would need to be enforced).  But you can't eliminate everything that doesn't fit, sometimes you cannot even percieve it.  And eventually this builds up and up over time until some flash point makes it overturn the current paradigm.

LHX

so basically - a lot of what is around right now can be considered to be aneristic strife?


it also might be worth mentioning that although the 'aneristic' part can seem to establish itself (temporarily) - it never actually does

like you can succeed in plugging a volcano for a little while - maybe even long enough to forget that it is a volcano

but eventually...



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Geez, i put the words together so I guess I should come up with something.

I would thinik of Aneristic Strife similar to how LHX did.  Or, at least, that's what I think of is how we contain kids. 

Because, kids start out "pure".  That is, they are a blank slate with no pre-conceived notions of order, disorder, right, wrong, bad, good, etc., etc., etc.,

Of course, through playing with their environment, they learn things.

hot water = ouchie hand
pulling kitties tail = ouchie face
crayons on wall = great entertainment

But then, they start to learn other things.  It may be direct, a father and/or mother sit their kids down and say.  "Now to be a good child you must do x,y, and z.  If you ever, ever to a,b, and/or c, you are a bad child."

Perhaps x,y,and z are things like praying every night, using a napkin after EVERY bite, saying thank you all of the time, tucking in your sheets, etc.

Perhaps a,b, and c are things like boys not playing with dolls, or girls not playing with trains and rocket ships.  Things that are not, "social norms", or "socially acceptible."

Then the whole farce of "society" gets intorduced.  You have to be a "good member of society" if you want to get anywhere.  If you want to be happy.  If you want to be successful. 

And so this is where it begins, and it doesn't stop.  It gets reinforced in school, in college, in the workplace, and on, and on, and on. 

And so....you have a bunch of apathetic, over-stressed, cattle too scared to deviate from the path or line they are in for fear of the "cattle-prod" that is disorder.
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I'm wondering what the picture of those who have none of this "aneristic strife" would be, however.

I have an idea, but since this concept is virtually new to me, I'd welcome some suggestions.

LMNO

RWHN, Let's not forget the sponge-like nature of children, in that they observe everything around them, and adopt those behaviors.

So if the parents have a "typical" (read: stereotyped) gender-based relationship, like the mother cooks and cleans, and the father takes out the garbage & watches sports, the child will "learn" these behaviors as how things are "supposed" to be.


But I repeat (although in another thread), once a person is able to meta-think and self-criticize, these learned behaviors are no longer mandatory.

Jenne, this concept is new to all of us.  I plucked it out of RWHN's rant yesterday.

Discordian creative process, ITT.