The Vocabulary of Your Audience

[LHX]

You need to use the vocabulary of your audience.


Ciphers lead to segregation.


UNLESS
you produce something that sounds SO MUTHAFUCKIN DOPE

that heads will feel it regardless of whether or not they can understand it


but even so:
if your objective is to get your point across
if you dont use your audience's lexicon, you are just as well off (perhaps better off) just shutting your mouth and maybe taking a rest
or go for a walk
or some such activity.


To some people, "Big" is the Milky Way Galaxy
To other people, "Big" is a jumbo snickers bar wiff 30% extra

[faust]

what if everything you say is one big in joke?
if people are quick enough to get the message they are ready to learn from its content.

H. W. Fowler, in Modern English Usage, had this to say of irony:

Irony is a form of utterance that postulates a double audience, consisting of one party that hearing shall hear and shall not understand, and another party that, when more is meant than meets the ear, is aware, both of that ,Äúmore,Äù and of the outsider,Äôs incomprehension

[LHX]

if everything you say is one big in-joke, then the 'out' people will end up throwing rocks at you


also:
how do you encourage people to 'become quick enough'?


we have established in the past that the more people who 'get it', the better off everybody is individually


ie. your life will be better if 'they' get it

[faust]

true, perhaps being clear with a message but layering in the stuff that makes me laugh to see do people pick up on it

[LMNO]

LHX, perhaps this relates to the old saying "when the student is ready, the master appears"?

That is to say, we can spit the discordian message for months, but only when a person starts to learn the way we use our vocabulary do they finally "get" it.


It reminds me of when I posted the BIP on MW, and then spent several days arguing with a wiccan before they realized they agreed with me.



Also: Write me some dope mutherfuckin lyrics of discord, yo.

[Cain]

Sorry, am working on that.  Just let me finish this dope paper on that motherfucking pimp Bin Laden and then sleep a few days to recover and I should have time to work on "Liberty does not rhyme with RPG" and other such classic song titles that are wasting away in my head.

[LMNO]

I just realized that LHX actually DID write some stuff for me:

they provide a strong defense
flawless at first glance
up against The Machine,Ñ¢
youd think we have no chance
but it was foretold that victory was pre-determined
so we dont back down
take heed to this sermon
as we march forth
crushing egos, skulls and bones
outmanned and outgunned
with only one route home
snipers on all sides
and spies in our own fort
its tragic, but their efforts are bound to fall short
as we hold court
and hit from angles unseen
up to the neck in the mud
but come out looking clean
confound the minds of those who couldnt distinguish
that we're dealing with a fire that can't be extinguished
we go hard
stampeding down uncharted paths
todays problems cant be solved with yesterdays math
and as for tomorrow: whatever comes - comes
its 11:59 and there's nowhere to run



Ok, I got some work to do, I guess.

[AFK]

true, perhaps being clear with a message but layering in the stuff that makes me laugh to see do people pick up on it

This kind of sounds like an inverse or upside-down Principia.  Message with jokes instead of jokes with message.

[P3nT4gR4m]

LHX, perhaps this relates to the old saying "when the student is ready, the master appears"?

Student gains mastery. I used to spend ages waiting for some dude to appear. Nowadays I'l pick up a book, open it to a random page and figure out how the text relates to my question.

[Triple Zero]

I just realized that LHX actually DID write some stuff for me:

they provide a strong defense
flawless at first glance
up against The Machine™
youd think we have no chance
but it was foretold that victory was pre-determined
so we dont back down
take heed to this sermon
as we march forth
crushing egos, skulls and bones
outmanned and outgunned
with only one route home
snipers on all sides
and spies in our own fort
its tragic, but their efforts are bound to fall short
as we hold court
and hit from angles unseen
up to the neck in the mud
but come out looking clean
confound the minds of those who couldnt distinguish
that we're dealing with a fire that can't be extinguished
we go hard
stampeding down uncharted paths
todays problems cant be solved with yesterdays math
and as for tomorrow: whatever comes - comes
its 11:59 and there's nowhere to run



Ok, I got some work to do, I guess.

nice.. first part sounds a littlebit KLF-like but less fluffy, and then it continues about crushing egos.. i like.

[P3nT4gR4m]

RE: The name of this thread

This ties in with what TGRR was saying about blending in. I tend to think of vocabulary (in the context of mindfucking) as consisting of all aspects of communication, from non-verbal - the way you look and act, to multimedia presentation - the way your message is dressed up.

to give an example - At one point in my life I was seriously considering training to be a priest. I kinda had nothing better to do and, at the time, was on a very anti-religion trip. I figured that the best way to fuck with the sheep who were supporting the structure was to become one of the fuckers they were listening to. By changing the odd word in a sermon I reckoned I could accomplish more than gathering a band of satanists together and blowing up the vatican.

Nowadays the sheep are conditioned to respond to marketing that looks and sounds a particular way. They are pumped full of muzak that affects their brain chemistry and subliminal memes that slip in under the wire and plant themselves in the suggestive mind. It's tried and tested and can be used to make them do anything from washing their hair with a specific shampoo to accepting the war on terror.

We know all this, christ knows we moan enough about it. Many of the techniques are available in diagramatic form. What I'm thinking is why not use these very same techniques to accomplish our intentions. Use the vocabulary of your audience, right down to the clothes you wear and the way your commercial looks.

[B_M_W]

Maybe because it turns my stomach?

When you've been brainwashed before, you kinda have a severe hatred for brainwashing. If you want some ideas on opening peoples minds, I've got a reverse brainwashing guide around here somewhere.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Maybe because it turns my stomach?

When you've been brainwashed before, you kinda have a severe hatred for brainwashing. If you want some ideas on opening peoples minds, I've got a reverse brainwashing guide around here somewhere.

I'm not really getting at brainwashing per se, although when I read that post back I can see how it looked that way. I'm talking about repackaging discordian lit in a form which the sheep are accustomed to pay attention to. Point being that most discordian stuff I've seen looks discordian. Prolly alienating most of your target audience right there - before they've even opened it. If it looked like a levis catalog or the menu for a chinese restaurant they might be more inclined to read it.

eg. Most people don't read the Jehovas pamphlet when it falls through their letterbox. Why? Cos it looks like a Jehova's pamphlet.

[B_M_W]

I think we take care of alot of that with the BIP pamplet. Nothing about discordianism in there, as I understand, except maybe the websites listed.

Maybe I should bump that essay...

[P3nT4gR4m]

I think we take care of alot of that with the BIP pamplet. Nothing about discordianism in there, as I understand, except maybe the websites listed.

Maybe I should bump that essay...

No arguments there - what I'm saying is tart up the presentation, not the content. Make it look more like a disco pamphlet, make another that looks like the good food guide. Break down your market, isolate the demographics, target them.