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Started by LHX, December 10, 2006, 03:23:56 PM

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LHX

So after years of whatever, this is the best I can come up with at this point:


The 'Secret' of 'Life' (or however you want to refer to this experience) is this:

There is a 'flow of nature'
You can temporarily disrupt this 'flow of nature' and send it in a different direction (other than how it was moving before).
When you do this, it gives you a temporary illusion of control.
Eventually the pressure builds and pops whatever it is that was causing the disruption and the flow of nature is restored.

This can be repeated or not depending on how you feel.



Ill prolly refine this later.

Enjoy.


Please feel free to bash or dismantle.
neat hell

B_M_W

Quote from: LHX on December 10, 2006, 03:23:56 PM
So after years of whatever, this is the best I can come up with at this point:


The 'Secret' of 'Life' (or however you want to refer to this experience) is this:

There is a 'flow of nature'
You can temporarily disrupt this 'flow of nature' and send it in a different direction (other than how it was moving before).
When you do this, it gives you a temporary illusion of control.
Eventually the pressure builds and pops whatever it is that was causing the disruption and the flow of nature is restored.

This can be repeated or not depending on how you feel.



Ill prolly refine this later.

Enjoy.


Please feel free to bash or dismantle.

Furthermore, when that bubble pops, you may be fucked.

Just sayin.
One by one, we break the sheep from their Iron Bar Prisons and expand their imaginations, make them think for themselves. In turn, they break more from their prisons. Eventually, critical mass is reached. Our key word: Resolve. Evangelize with compassion and determination. And realize that there will be few in the beginning. We are hand picking our successors. They are the future of Discordianism. Let us guide our future with intelligence.

     --Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=9801.0


6.5 billion Buddhas walking around.

99.xxxxxxx% forgot they are Buddha.

LHX

Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on December 10, 2006, 03:34:11 PM
Furthermore, when that bubble pops, you may be fucked.

Just sayin.

no doubt

thats the implication

it works on the personal scale AND the social scale



how to proceed on this? im not 100% sure

when you realize that you may have become the type of person that is setting yourself up to get fucked later on
it might be wise to start popping yourself



humility FTW
neat hell

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: LHX on December 10, 2006, 03:23:56 PM
So after years of whatever, this is the best I can come up with at this point:


The 'Secret' of 'Life' (or however you want to refer to this experience) is this:

There is a 'flow of nature'
You can temporarily disrupt this 'flow of nature' and send it in a different direction (other than how it was moving before).
When you do this, it gives you a temporary illusion of control.
Eventually the pressure builds and pops whatever it is that was causing the disruption and the flow of nature is restored.

This can be repeated or not depending on how you feel.


I like it!

Quote from: LHX on December 10, 2006, 03:23:56 PM

Ill prolly refine this later.


Leave it alone it's fine like it is.

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"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Cain

Shih.

Its a good word.  You can find it in the Art of War, and implied in alot of Taoist works.

LHX

Quote from: Cain on December 10, 2006, 04:21:46 PM
Shih.

Its a good word.  You can find it in the Art of War, and implied in alot of Taoist works.
100% troof

it has no english translation


good eye
neat hell

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: LHX on December 10, 2006, 04:36:44 PM
Quote from: Cain on December 10, 2006, 04:21:46 PM
Shih.

Its a good word.  You can find it in the Art of War, and implied in alot of Taoist works.
100% troof

it has no english translation


good eye

Link me now goddamnit! All I can find are pictures of stupid little fluffy dogs :x

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Cain

http://academic.bowdoin.edu/suntzu/content.cmhtml?chapter=05

This chapter introduces the term shih, one of the key terms of the Art of War. Most simply said, shih is the ever-changing configuration of power in one's environment. The skilled general knows shih so well that he/she can use it to achieve effortless victories. For example,

      One who uses shih sets people to battle as if rolling trees and rocks.
      As for the nature of trees and rocks --
      When still, they are at rest.
      When agitated, they move.
      When square, they stop.
      When round, they go.

Thus the shih of one skilled at setting people to battle is like rolling round rocks from a mountain one thousand jen high.

Chapter 5 also contains the famous pair "orthodox and extraordinary." The former is battle-by-the-book, what the enemy expects. The latter is always unpredictable. Thus:

      In sum, when in battle,
      Use the orthodox to engage.
      Use the extraordinary to attain victory.

LMNO

Quote from: LHX on December 10, 2006, 03:23:56 PM
So after years of whatever, this is the best I can come up with at this point:


The 'Secret' of 'Life' (or however you want to refer to this experience) is this:

There is a 'flow of nature'
You can temporarily disrupt this 'flow of nature' and send it in a different direction (other than how it was moving before).
When you do this, it gives you a temporary illusion of control.
Eventually the pressure builds and pops whatever it is that was causing the disruption and the flow of nature is restored.

This can be repeated or not depending on how you feel.



Ill prolly refine this later.

Enjoy.


Please feel free to bash or dismantle.


How does one recognize this "flow"?

And what if the "disruption" resembles the "flow" so closely that it is imperceptable?

LHX

Quote from: LMNO on December 11, 2006, 01:53:35 PM

How does one recognize this "flow"?
thats the question right there - for lack of anything that can be pointed at or demonstrated - that seems to be where something like this would break down

Quote from: LMNO on December 11, 2006, 01:53:35 PM
And what if the "disruption" resembles the "flow" so closely that it is imperceptable?
im not sure if perception has much to do with this scenario

the disruption can resemble the flow all it wants - but if it tries to go in a different direction, it is pretty much fucked

something small that is part of (and depends on) something bigger cant successfully go against that bigger thing (except in apparently small, temporary bursts)
neat hell

LMNO

The question being, if the disruption resebles the flow, how do you know you aren't going with the flow, but are instead going with the disruption?

LHX

Quote from: LMNO on December 11, 2006, 02:11:01 PM
The question being, if the disruption resebles the flow, how do you know you aren't going with the flow, but are instead going with the disruption?
you stick with it until you have reason to believe otherwise

you know because you factor that uncertainty in

Occam's Razor + Maybe Logic FTW


if it walk like a duck, talk like a duck - you assume its a duck until you open it up and find machine parts in it
neat hell

AFK

Mecha-Quackers!!!

I really like the dam metaphor in the OP.

It's appropriate.

Mankind thinks a dam allows it to control nature.  And, perhaps, it does in the short term.  Short term being relative of course.  For a being with a lifespan of 80 or so years it probably feels long term, and thus, reinforces the delusional idea of control.

But, the reality is, that a human lifespan is very short term in the grand scheme of the planet and the universe.  A river being damned for 150 years seems like history to us. 

To the planet, all it is is a temporary artery blockage.

There is no control anywhere.



Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

B_M_W

And again, when that blockage is released, when the flow is returned, we may be fucked.

Hell, we may be fucked right now. If not, we are well onto our way to being fucked.

Humans have no priority.
Humans have no athority.
Any bowing that you see the mountains and oceans doing,
Thats only until our back is turned;
And we will be swept a way in a tide of sand and detrius...
One by one, we break the sheep from their Iron Bar Prisons and expand their imaginations, make them think for themselves. In turn, they break more from their prisons. Eventually, critical mass is reached. Our key word: Resolve. Evangelize with compassion and determination. And realize that there will be few in the beginning. We are hand picking our successors. They are the future of Discordianism. Let us guide our future with intelligence.

     --Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=9801.0


6.5 billion Buddhas walking around.

99.xxxxxxx% forgot they are Buddha.

LHX

neat hell