Defensive Personalities

[Cain]

And he can apparently read, right?

[Jasper]

Reading =/= comprehension.

[Cain]

As Laz so perfectly proves.

Sorry, I'm in no logical mood tonight.  I'm trolling elsewhere and its spilling over.

[Jasper]

Laz is sort of like Mal-3 but easier to hate. Don't worry about the illogicality thing.

[Cain]

Well, normally I like to attempt some sort of systemic criticism, but tonight is the Night of the Troll.  My fans/stalkers/obsessive blood enemies need me.

[Triple Zero]

He essentially denounces BIP as a place you go to mope and be sad.

HE CALLED US EMO KIDS????

[hooplala]

I read what he wrote about BIP, and that isn't exactly what he said . . . he stated that the philosophy was "unenlightened" because it admits defeat, so you stop trying. 

I think the BIP concept worked effectively as a Rorschach test in this case, since it gave us such valuable insight into his mind.

[Cain]

True. I drew the opposite conclusions.  Because Laz is a pussy defeatist.

[AFK]

I also wonder

a) how many times he actually read the pamphelt

and

b) if he was actually reading it or skimming it. 

Cause I've read it and re-read it as people have commented on it.  I don't see the defeatist aspect in there at all.  Sure, it's not sunshine and lollipops but it's not advocating sticking your head in the oven either. 

[Cain]

Laz is suffering from an overly Christian viewpoint of existence, IMO.  Because a clear and definite conclusion cannot be drawn, and there is no clear concept of salvation or punishment (the BIP may seem like punishment, but its just a fact of existence which can be fought against)l, it makes him feel uneasy. 

[LMNO]

Actually, I had a similar response whey i was posting BIP material at MW.  There was an opinion that it was overly pessimistic because we could never break free, and we called it a "prison".

I eventually won some of them over, though.

[Cain]

Christian theology is alive and well, even though the faith itself may be suffering.

[AFK]

It is hard to discuss these thing with folks who have a deathgrip perception of words and their meanings and connotations.  People should read more poetry. 

[Cain]

People should read more philosophy.  Most useful tool I've found in discovering underlying assumptions about how the world works.

[AFK]

This is also true.