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[Triple Zero]

I've heard some stuff about AIDS being engineered. 

ive heard a lot about that too

something about aids spreading in the 50s from multiple infection points in africa, at places where christian missionaries were handing out vaccinations for something or other (those missionairies didn't know what exactly was in the needles of course)

it sounds very conspiracyish to me, i wonder who comes up with that stuff

[BADGE OF HONOR]

AIDS didn't really start spreading until the 60s, and didn't really get identified until the late 70s.  Furthermore they didn't even realize it was related to blood until 1982, and didn't isolate the virus itself til a couple years later.  Saying people put it in vaccines is fucking ridiculous especially since it spreads itself just damn fine on its own.

Conspiracies are breeding ground for stupid, and vice versa.

[Triple Zero]

Conspiracies are breeding ground for stupid, and vice versa.

breeding ground for stupid are a conspiracy?

ZOMG who are behind it?

i'll just go get my coffee now

[The Good Reverend Roger]

AIDS didn't really start spreading until the 60s, and didn't really get identified until the late 70s.  Furthermore they didn't even realize it was related to blood until 1982, and didn't isolate the virus itself til a couple years later.  Saying people put it in vaccines is fucking ridiculous especially since it spreads itself just damn fine on its own.

Conspiracies are breeding ground for stupid, and vice versa.

It didn't have to be on purpose.

The polio vaccines used in the 50s in Africa were derived using monkeys, IIRC.

[BADGE OF HONOR]

Oh I know, also dirty needles were (are) one of the main ways AIDS got spread around Africa.  Saying that it was on purpose in the 50s just shouts ignorance and that's what I was attempting to correct. 

Edit:  though it's not certain the general consensus is that the first case of AIDS was contracted in 1959, so.

[Triple Zero]

i was just retelling something i may have picked up on some weird website years ago

for the record, i didnt believe it. but this is the bit i remembered

never mind i probably shouldn't talk about shady conspiracy ideas that i have no idea where i got them from eh

[P3nT4gR4m]

it sounds very conspiracyish to me, i wonder who comes up with that stuff

erm.. that would be people like me. Sorry but it's too easy and way too much fun to resist. BTW - I'm not claiming authorship of any good ones. My role is mainly to help them spread. It would be a fairly elite version of me that came up with the aids one. Obviously I can't name him directly but he does a lot of work for the government

[Starship, take me]

http://killtown.911review.org/aids.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_conspiracy_theories

These are some of the claims/evidence of the AIDS conspiracy theorists.

[LMNO]

A 9/11 conspiracy site, and wikipedia?

[LHX]

i can see it from both sides

its definitely suspicious


anything to do with science and medicine is suspisious at this point

vaccines and shit


its wild

[LMNO]

You're sounding surprisingly techno/neo-phobic.

[LHX]

You're sounding surprisingly techno/neo-phobic.

no
im serious

both sides make sense

i read enuf about the aids stuff to have reason to believe that something strange is going on


the whole modern approach to medicine seems like a gigantic swing-an-a-miss from where im looking

[LMNO]

Now you're sounding like a Scientologist.

[AFK]

AIDS isn't on the national (American) radar anymore, not like it was.  When you have a huge chunk of media/news time and resources dealing with the war from a dozen different angles, the AIDS stuff doesn't make it on the agenda anymore.  Only when Bono and Clinton start hanging out does it even make the news. 

Plus, you have people like Magic Johnson who continue to live with the disease.  I think there is a perception that it isn't the problem like it was in the 80's.  That, of course, is bullshit.  But, obviously, the plight of Africa is of little consequence to the Western World. 

[LHX]

Now you're sounding like a Scientologist.

its a dance i do

its the neo-phobe-scientologist shuffle



but seriously - autoimmune and immune deficiency disorders seem to be relatively recent innovations


do keep in mind that a great deal of medicine these days takes a 'anti-biotic' approach to things

the words say it themself