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Started by LHX, December 21, 2006, 07:11:43 PM

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LMNO

Y'know, I can never tell if that's an agreement, a dismissal, or just chronic constipation.



LMNO
-dummy.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO on December 26, 2006, 07:42:31 PM
Y'know, I can never tell if that's an agreement, a dismissal, or just chronic constipation.



LMNO
-dummy.

Yes.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

Gotcha.




LMNO
-knew you were confirming the "dummy" part.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LMNO on December 26, 2006, 07:47:50 PM
Gotcha.




LMNO
-knew you were confirming the "dummy" part.

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" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Jenne

You guys just made my perfect cup of joe that much better.

So thank you.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Jenne on December 26, 2006, 08:07:48 PM
You guys just made my perfect cup of joe that much better.

So thank you.

PD.com.  We don't make coffee.  We make coffee better.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Jenne

THAT should be written down somewhere...

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Jenne


Mourning Star

Isn't it Taoism that says that god/goddess/supremebeingofunpronounceablename, in order to better understand itself, became everything, every person, every plant, every rock, et cetera.  It's an interesting concept, kinda makes you wonder if there is a difference between "us" and "them" if in fact we are all just parts on one being...

at the same time, "Us" and "Them" are just another part of mass 'groupthink'
...

my thoughts...flame em if you must.

LHX

Quote from: Mourning Star on January 05, 2007, 07:35:52 AM
Isn't it Taoism that says that god/goddess/supremebeingofunpronounceablename, in order to better understand itself, became everything, every person, every plant, every rock, et cetera.  It's an interesting concept, kinda makes you wonder if there is a difference between "us" and "them" if in fact we are all just parts on one being...

at the same time, "Us" and "Them" are just another part of mass 'groupthink'
...

my thoughts...flame em if you must.

you are right

the point of view becomes evident, but what do you do when you realize that you are everything/body else?

at what point does separation occur?

why is that observation such a conversation-ender?

why does this seem to be one of the 'truths' that people dont generally like to hear or find comfort in?

or
as LMNO says,
"now what?"
neat hell

LMNO

Let's not forget, that this predicates on the assumption that Taoism is right.


But anyway, I think it's such a conversation ender is because it's such a non-starter to begin with.  It could be a revelation, sure, but you have nowhere to go from there, except perhaps becoming vegan and talking to rocks.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: LMNO on January 05, 2007, 12:51:56 PM
Let's not forget, that this predicates on the assumption that Taoism is right.


But anyway, I think it's such a conversation ender is because it's such a non-starter to begin with.  It could be a revelation, sure, but you have nowhere to go from there, except perhaps becoming vegan and talking to rocks.

There is somewhere to go: Back to the localised subset of everything that is you. Expand, contract, explore as before but now with a whole new perspective available.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

LMNO

Expand on this, please.

LHX

it definitely throws a different light on things

a need to re-assess the implications of your actions

ie - what does it mean when you get angry at somebody/something
neat hell