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Started by The Good Reverend Roger, December 24, 2006, 09:12:58 AM

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AFK

You didn't answer the first two questions.

So, I will ask again,

Where should the profits of dead musicians go?
Are you suggesting that when an artist dies their music should be free?

Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 10, 2007, 02:12:22 PM
You didn't answer the first two questions.

So, I will ask again,

Where should the profits of dead musicians go?
Are you suggesting that when an artist dies their music should be free?



When a musician dies, his intellectual property is assigned to his heirs, just like his regular property, and it remains theirs until either they fail to maintain the copyright, sell the rights, or the time limit expires and it enters the public domain.
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Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 10, 2007, 05:40:19 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 10, 2007, 02:12:22 PM
You didn't answer the first two questions.

So, I will ask again,

Where should the profits of dead musicians go?
Are you suggesting that when an artist dies their music should be free?



When a musician dies, his intellectual property is assigned to his heirs, just like his regular property, and it remains theirs until either they fail to maintain the copyright, sell the rights, or the time limit expires and it enters the public domain.

Yup.  It's basically his property/assets/estate.  This is exactly what I would've said.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: triple zero on January 10, 2007, 06:21:36 PM
how do you "fail to maintain the copyright" ?

Copyrights have a certain number of years in which they have to be renewed.

If they aren't renewed, they go into the public domain.

They go into the public domain in 90-100 years in any case.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mourning Star

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 10, 2007, 02:12:22 PM
You didn't answer the first two questions.

So, I will ask again,

Where should the profits of dead musicians go?
Are you suggesting that when an artist dies their music should be free?



I am in fact suggesting that when an artist dies, their body of work should enter public domain, unless there are Heirs that inherit the rights to said IP.  The rights should NOT be transferred to the record label for them to profit from indefinitely...

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Mourning Star on January 10, 2007, 07:29:42 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 10, 2007, 02:12:22 PM
You didn't answer the first two questions.

So, I will ask again,

Where should the profits of dead musicians go?
Are you suggesting that when an artist dies their music should be free?



I am in fact suggesting that when an artist dies, their body of work should enter public domain, unless there are Heirs that inherit the rights to said IP.  The rights should NOT be transferred to the record label for them to profit from indefinitely...


What if the record label owned the rights before the artist's death?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mourning Star

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on January 10, 2007, 07:33:07 PM
Quote from: Mourning Star on January 10, 2007, 07:29:42 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 10, 2007, 02:12:22 PM
You didn't answer the first two questions.

So, I will ask again,

Where should the profits of dead musicians go?
Are you suggesting that when an artist dies their music should be free?



I am in fact suggesting that when an artist dies, their body of work should enter public domain, unless there are Heirs that inherit the rights to said IP.  The rights should NOT be transferred to the record label for them to profit from indefinitely...


What if the record label owned the rights before the artist's death?

That's a part of my beef with the system too...

the rights should be owned by the artist, under no circumstances should they be in the hands of the record company...

these are simply my opinions.


Cain

What if an individual owns them?  Like Michael Jackson and his retirement plan, the Beatles record rights?

Genuinely curious here.

LMNO

Question:


Who will pay the hundreds of thousands of dollars to record, manufacture, and distribute the musician's work if the companies are not guaranteed some sort of recoupment?

AFK

Quote from: Mourning Star on January 10, 2007, 07:29:42 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 10, 2007, 02:12:22 PM
You didn't answer the first two questions.

So, I will ask again,

Where should the profits of dead musicians go?
Are you suggesting that when an artist dies their music should be free?



I am in fact suggesting that when an artist dies, their body of work should enter public domain, unless there are Heirs that inherit the rights to said IP.  The rights should NOT be transferred to the record label for them to profit from indefinitely...


Why not?  There's a reason it is called the Recording Industry and not the Recording Swap Meet. 
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

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Quote from: LMNO on January 10, 2007, 07:41:38 PM
Question:


Who will pay the hundreds of thousands of dollars to record, manufacture, and distribute the musician's work if the companies are not guaranteed some sort of recoupment?

Kazza! And they'll do it for next to nothing.

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Kazaa will pay for studio space, microphones, equipment, an engineer, and a mastering studio?


Amazing.

Cain

Actually, if they charged all the spyware companies and put up some advertising embedded in the program they could probably afford to.