SBOTD - Good Boy! aka. Things You Don't Need to Hear

[LHX]

Wait, so if people really are out to get you than wouldn't the paranoia be justified in the first place? 

Paranoia is an suspicion of others that is not based on fact. If it was based on fact, than it wouldn't be paranoia, it would be something else.

vigilance?

[B_M_W]

Fuck.

Good word. Like resolve.

[Triple Zero]

i understand the logic. i said draw your own conclusions because the logical "trap" is not that hard to get out of.

it's all semantics anyway, words are signs for a certain intended meaning and some of those meanings are a bit poorly chosen, leading to apparent paradoxes.

i wouldn't worry about it too much.

vigilant is a cool word, resolve as well.

resolve is kind of like willpower, no?

[B_M_W]

 Firmness of purpose and decision

Yeah, I think its got a lot to do with willpower.

[Jasper]

Adamant.

[Mourning Star]

Firmness of purpose and decision

Yeah, I think its got a lot to do with willpower.

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I think that if it can't be paranoia, on account of it being suspicion based on fact...it's not really vigilance or resolve, as it is just good goddamn common sense...

if you KNOW someone is out to get you, and you prepare for the day when they come...that's just common sense...

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They ARE out to get you; people ARE being opressed and SHOULD be upset.

Therefore, paranoia and angst cannot exist, using the definitions of the words.

Is this really that hard of logic?

Yes, people are out to get you, people are oppressed and people ought to be upset.

You're using loose definitions to make a point, please don't make this about using "logic" to disprove the existence of paranoia and angst.

That's ridiculous.

[Triple Zero]

this is what i was trying to say.

[B_M_W]

Geez, you try to make a meme on here, and people jump on your back. 

Angst and paranoia are a way of DISMISSING claims of fact. "Oh, you're just being paranoid" "Oh, thats just the teenage angst talking". Why would you want to continue being called that, if you are in actuality acting on fact?

Enough. Im coming down with something, most likely viral. Argue as you will, I've said my piece.

[Mourning Star]

Geez, you try to make a meme on here, and people jump on your back. 

Angst and paranoia are a way of DISMISSING claims of fact. "Oh, you're just being paranoid" "Oh, thats just the teenage angst talking". Why would you want to continue being called that, if you are in actuality acting on fact?

Enough. Im coming down with something, most likely viral. Argue as you will, I've said my piece.

The virus was cooked up by "them" for trying to prove that paranoia and angst don't exist and ruin their perfect veil of illusion and deception...

you'll probably turn into the undead a la Resident Evil 1 - 3 and awaken without identity and an overwhelming hunger for brains...or at least a need to breathily say "STARS" every 20 minutes...

[P3nT4gR4m]

Geez, you try to make a meme on here, and people jump on your back. 

Angst and paranoia are a way of DISMISSING claims of fact. "Oh, you're just being paranoid" "Oh, thats just the teenage angst talking". Why would you want to continue being called that, if you are in actuality acting on fact?

Enough. Im coming down with something, most likely viral. Argue as you will, I've said my piece.

The virus was cooked up by "them" for trying to prove that paranoia and angst don't exist and ruin their perfect veil of illusion and deception...

you'll probably turn into the undead a la Resident Evil 1 - 3 and awaken without identity and an overwhelming hunger for brains...or at least a need to breathily say "STARS" every 20 minutes...

I like the way you think young man! Zombies FTW

[AFK]

I see the existence of paranoia and angst to be reasonable, in a general sense.  Perhaps it is irrational for a certain specific individual to feel those things because nothing has ever specifically happened to them.  But, in a broader sense, if you see something happening to someone else, and you see it being reasonable for the same said thing to happen to you, then in a way it makes sense for the paranoia to exist.  Because to a certain degree it's entertaining a very reasonable possibility that someone indeed is out to get them. 

As far as teenage angst, I just chalk that up to a child still learning about their environment.  I'm sure if we all rummaged around in out attics and closets we could find an old poem, song, whatever that we wrote about the world sucking.  It's a part of growing up really. 

[Jenne]

The thing is, the world DOES suck.  That bad thing about paranoia and angst is that they give a false sense of "so don't do anything about it" hopelessness.

Just because the world sucks doesn't mean you can't do your part to try and change it.  Even if it's a small bit of change, that's enough to destroy the worst aspects of angst and "they're all out to get me so in the sand goes my head"...

[P3nT4gR4m]

Angst I see as being another acne - like thing; usually plagues teenagers but some adults never grow out of it.

Paranoia on the other hand I think is a sliding scale, from healthy paranoia at one end to - locked in a basement with a collection of assault rifles and a tinfoil helmet - paranoia, at the other.

Healthy paranoia is just staying alert for the odd occasion when someone might sneak up behind you, stick a knife in your kidneys and take your wallet. Kinda like insurance - you buy into it, not exactly expecting your house to burn down but, if it does, you got it covered.

At some point the rational line is crossed and your paranoia goes from keeping one eye on the drunk bloke making all the noise at the table next to you in the pub to checking the cockroaches in your kitchen for tiny tranmitters.

[DJRubberducky]

I tend to reserve the word "paranoia" for when the vigilance becomes, well, unreasonable.  There's a difference between being on heightened alert because you are walking through a mall parking lot at night by yourself, and never leaving your house to go to said mall because you're convinced someone will attack you.