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Don't get me wrong, I greatly appreciate the fact that you're at least putting effort into sincerely arguing your points. It's an argument I've enjoyed having. It's just that your points are wrong and your reasons for thinking they're right are stupid.

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SBOTD - Good Boy! aka. Things You Don't Need to Hear

Started by LHX, December 29, 2006, 03:48:02 PM

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B_M_W

As far as protecting yourself from your own government is concerned, I don't think you can ever be vigilant enough.
One by one, we break the sheep from their Iron Bar Prisons and expand their imaginations, make them think for themselves. In turn, they break more from their prisons. Eventually, critical mass is reached. Our key word: Resolve. Evangelize with compassion and determination. And realize that there will be few in the beginning. We are hand picking our successors. They are the future of Discordianism. Let us guide our future with intelligence.

     --Reverse Brainwashing: A Guide http://www.principiadiscordia.com/forum/index.php?topic=9801.0


6.5 billion Buddhas walking around.

99.xxxxxxx% forgot they are Buddha.

Jenne

So, is paranoia indeed the extreme behavior, or as Silly says, does it, too, have a sliding scale in reasonability.

I think you can have angst without being immature, as well.

*Jenne, the angsty 33 year old*

LHX

is it angst when you acknowledge that you are a part of a self-destructive system?
neat hell

Jenne

I don't think I'd define angst that way, no, LHX.

Angst, again, to me, is abject hopelessness, an indulgence thereof, so to speak.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: LHX on January 10, 2007, 05:16:21 PM
is it angst when you acknowledge that you are a part of a self-destructive system?

I always figured it was more a case of whining about the fact that there was nothing anyone could do about the self destructive system they seemed trapped in.

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Jenne

Quote from: SillyCybin on January 10, 2007, 05:38:34 PM
Quote from: LHX on January 10, 2007, 05:16:21 PM
is it angst when you acknowledge that you are a part of a self-destructive system?

I always figured it was more a case of whining about the fact that there was nothing anyone could do about the self destructive system they seemed trapped in.

I think that's the possible consequences of said angst.

LHX

Quote from: SillyCybin on January 10, 2007, 05:38:34 PM
Quote from: LHX on January 10, 2007, 05:16:21 PM
is it angst when you acknowledge that you are a part of a self-destructive system?

I always figured it was more a case of whining about the fact that there was nothing anyone could do about the self destructive system they seemed trapped in.
true
neat hell

AFK

Quote from: Jenne on January 10, 2007, 05:23:40 PM
I don't think I'd define angst that way, no, LHX.

Angst, again, to me, is abject hopelessness, an indulgence thereof, so to speak.

so then would you say angst is intentional depression?
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Jenne

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 10, 2007, 09:08:07 PM
Quote from: Jenne on January 10, 2007, 05:23:40 PM
I don't think I'd define angst that way, no, LHX.

Angst, again, to me, is abject hopelessness, an indulgence thereof, so to speak.

so then would you say angst is intentional depression?

Naw...just reveling in its aftereffects.

It's a selfish thing, to be sure.

Jenne

I don't think you can MAKE yourself be depressed...you just are.

But you can keep yourself there once you realize you are already in that state.  I think the current pop-psych bullshit really removes the legitimacy of that, unfortunately.

AFK

Quote from: Jenne on January 10, 2007, 09:11:51 PM
I don't think you can MAKE yourself be depressed...you just are.

But you can keep yourself there once you realize you are already in that state.  I think the current pop-psych bullshit really removes the legitimacy of that, unfortunately.

agreed.
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 10, 2007, 09:23:05 PM
Quote from: Jenne on January 10, 2007, 09:11:51 PM
I don't think you can MAKE yourself be depressed...you just are.

But you can keep yourself there once you realize you are already in that state.  I think the current pop-psych bullshit really removes the legitimacy of that, unfortunately.

agreed.

I'd also say it's perversely addictive. It's kinda comforting in a fucked up way.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Jenne

Quote from: SillyCybin on January 10, 2007, 09:36:35 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 10, 2007, 09:23:05 PM
Quote from: Jenne on January 10, 2007, 09:11:51 PM
I don't think you can MAKE yourself be depressed...you just are.

But you can keep yourself there once you realize you are already in that state. I think the current pop-psych bullshit really removes the legitimacy of that, unfortunately.

agreed.

I'd also say it's perversely addictive. It's kinda comforting in a fucked up way.

That's just a vicious cycle of coping that doesn't really work.

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: Jenne on January 10, 2007, 09:39:35 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on January 10, 2007, 09:36:35 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 10, 2007, 09:23:05 PM
Quote from: Jenne on January 10, 2007, 09:11:51 PM
I don't think you can MAKE yourself be depressed...you just are.

But you can keep yourself there once you realize you are already in that state. I think the current pop-psych bullshit really removes the legitimacy of that, unfortunately.

agreed.

I'd also say it's perversely addictive. It's kinda comforting in a fucked up way.

That's just a vicious cycle of coping that doesn't really work.

Working doesn't even enter into it. The whole thing about depression is it's not working. Depression is a malfunction. A comforting, addictive malfunction.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Jenne

Quote from: SillyCybin on January 10, 2007, 09:44:42 PM


Working doesn't even enter into it. The whole thing about depression is it's not working. Depression is a malfunction. A comforting, addictive malfunction.

Ehhh...I have problems with that statement.  First, I think there are plenty of depressives out there who just don't diagnose the problem as that, exactly.  They just climb into a bottle of whatever and get the fuck over it.  Or beat their dogs/kids/wives/husbands/bosses.

Also, ever notice depressives also have anger management problems as well?