At Any Given Moment

[LHX]

mmmmm just about to sit down for a nice meal

perhaps a little candle light to set some warm ambience

for yall meat eaters - maybe a nice rack of lamb wiff a side of veggies
for the non-meat-eaters - maybe a plate of home-made macaroni and cheese, some broccoli on the side

for some - a glass of wine
for others - just water


regardless - you are about to sit down to a pleasant supper, and on your way to sit down, you decide to check the answering machine

and on the answering machine, you find a message from "Them"

They called

and in a pleasant voice, They let you know that They want you to contact Them


well what in the sweet fuck do they want to talk to you about?

naw - you cant find out now - business hours is over


is it good news?
is it ever good news when They contact you?


or perhaps it isnt a message on your answering machine

perhaps it is a letter in the mail -- again polite, and very specific

They require this, this, this, and this


naw - They dont tell you why - They just tell you it is required



do you do that to other people?
would you do that if given the opportunity?

would you upset peoples digestion? and keep something looming on their mind?

do you want to carry the burden of proof everywhere you go?


whod you go with?
how much?
how many?
how long?
when was it?


any given moment with a brief weekend reprieve

when They are out of the office, and the mail doesnt get delivered


the looming threat specialists
keeping you safe and scared
protecting you with cozy blankets of worry





got dam its great to be alive on planet earth

2007 style

[Jasper]

That is the thing though.  They've made it so good to be alive that there are hardly ever any people willing to die for the truth or any ideal.  People will always choose a suffering over death, because no one can get enough of this life. 

They have requirements?  So do I.  We can compromise mutually, or not at all.

[LHX]

that fear-desire loop

its fucked up


once people get trapped in it, then you can move them like chess

just flash that thing they are afraid of (death)
or the thing that they want (attention)


even people that front with the 'holistic' route - they want to be known for what they do -- crave that attention


if i hadnt resolved that the only way out of the system is to go thru it, then these retarded posts would not be showing up on any monitors anywhere

my path up the mountain has been blocked off by a tollbooth

and there is still work to be done

[Jasper]

Death and attention.  I like it.  Holds true, too.  I bet you could write for a mastermind character on that principle alone.

Enlightened people are hacks unless they've stopped responding to death and attention.

[LHX]

if people read more about phoenixes rising from the ashes, they might respond to death differently

once people get introduced to the pitfalls of attention ([Rev Rog]more fun than you really wanted[/Rev Rog]), they start responding to that differently too

death/life
attract/repel

[Jasper]

Pheonixes- How does that work?  It seems serendipitous or like a trick, maybe.  How'd that work, from your philisophical perspective?

[LHX]

beats me

egg swallows sperm and KA-BLAOW

Hexagram 63 - everything done
Hexagram 64 - everything needs to be done

[Jasper]

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It's a sign.

[LMNO]

that fear-desire loop

its fucked up


once people get trapped in it, then you can move them like chess

just flash that thing they are afraid of (death)
or the thing that they want (attention)


even people that front with the 'holistic' route - they want to be known for what they do -- crave that attention


if i hadnt resolved that the only way out of the system is to go thru it, then these retarded posts would not be showing up on any monitors anywhere

my path up the mountain has been blocked off by a tollbooth

and there is still work to be done

There's a reason my church is called "The First Church of Last Exit Before Toll".

[LHX]

makes a lot of sense from where im sitting

[AFK]

if people read more about phoenixes rising from the ashes, they might respond to death differently

once people get introduced to the pitfalls of attention ([Rev Rog]more fun than you really wanted[/Rev Rog]), they start responding to that differently too

death/life
attract/repel

There is such a drive in society to "live the right life" or "live the successful life" or "to achieve the American Dream"
I believe this to make up a large part of the fear of death. 
The fear of how you lived the past stronger than the fear of what is to come after death. 
Of course, religion can add other elements to this. 

[Cain]

One of the things I actually do believe, even though there is no evidence for it, is that there is probably no life after death.  In that sense, it doesn't worry me.  I have nothing to fear from what comes after, only the lack of continued living and existing in this world.  Obviously there are things I want to do and I can only do those by existing, but I can think of a few cases where its worth dying for. 

[LHX]

fear of the unknown has no foundation

it is a flaw

it doesnt make sense


calling back to 'the lie' issue -
that seems to be the main beef i have with most evolution theories - they dont address a flaw such as this


it seems like a box that was opened and a something was unleashed (those parables make more and more sense)

and in the terror - man was driven to technological heights that would otherwise have been impossible



fear of the unknown and striving to achieve illusionary feats

a ill wind

something is rotten

[B_M_W]

fear of the unknown has no foundation

it is a flaw

it doesnt make sense


calling back to 'the lie' issue -
that seems to be the main beef i have with most evolution theories - they dont address a flaw such as this


it seems like a box that was opened and a something was unleashed (those parables make more and more sense)

and in the terror - man was driven to technological heights that would otherwise have been impossible



fear of the unknown and striving to achieve illusionary feats

a ill wind

something is rotten

Except it DOES have a foundation. Because for early humans what was unknown was also often dangerous, and not in a psychological "tearing down walls" way, but in a physical "killed and eated" way. What was unknown, what might be hiding behind that bush, waiting in that tree, could be the death of you. And for life to survive and evolve, it has to be programed to avoid death. Otherwise there wouldn't been any living things. Get it?

However, for a large part we have outgrown this fear.

[Triple Zero]

fear of the unknown has no foundation

it is a flaw

it doesnt make sense


calling back to 'the lie' issue -
that seems to be the main beef i have with most evolution theories - they dont address a flaw such as this

a flaw?

it seems like a box that was opened and a something was unleashed (those parables make more and more sense)

and in the terror - man was driven to technological heights that would otherwise have been impossible

why?

i really still don't get where you are trying to go with this "lie" stuff. the advantages are there, the ways to accidentally stumble upon the concept are also there. keep in mind we're talking about tens of thousands of <i>generations</i>. even a monkey could figure it out.