Screw You Hippies

[Guido Finucci]

The artificial concept of no-relation is the ERISTIC PRINCIPLE.
-- Some dude.

I regret that we helped to redefine 'cool' from being an inner state of grace and rebellion to being an outward display of consumption and compliance.
-- Sam Smith, An Apology to Younger Americans

He who despises himself esteems himself as a self-despiser.
-- Nietzsche

Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months.
-- Oscar Wilde

Being a Discordian is no excuse for being an asshole.
-- Rev. Verthaine


Here's the thing about Discordians: they're all fucking frauds.

That is to say, they're either rubbing mushy bits with frauds (and pretending that it's fulfilling), happily being frauds while wearing their religious party hats (so as to get the free booze), or they are pretensious wankers. Every person that I've ever come across who was proud to be a Discordian was proud almost solely because of whatever it was that they were rejecting and, invariably, their rejection was a focus of how they defined themselves. They all had plenty of reasons for opposing some norm or other; pain, bad relationships, emotional coping mechanisms, not fitting in, being teased as a child whose mother still made them wear shorts in their senior year at school... the list is long and trivial. Needless to say, they all defined themselves as 'counter culture', more by virtue of their oppostion to some cultural norm or other, rather than through any actual possession of even the minutest sliver of culture.

Robert Anton Wilson, whatever you may think of him, at least had one thing right. He respected (and created) Discordians that definied themselves through what they could make/build/do/understand rather than what they chose to oppose. Take Hagbard Celine and Emperor Norton. They weren't about throwing off the trappings of society, they were about adopting all the trappings that they could lay their hands on and screwing the rest of society for everything they could get. And more than that, they understood that you can't screw someone by sticking your middle finger up in the air in front of them. A lass, whom I happen to admire greatly, sent me an email some time ago in which she stated that anyone who wore Chuck Taylor's shoes did so as an expression of rebellion. I'm sorry? Come again?! By wearing the right labels, I can show everyone how much I reject cultural norms? What the fuck?! Oh, my God! Barbeque!

Sure, choose not to play the game. Choose to torment a cabbage. Make yourself feel good by proving to everyone how much they were right when they said that you didn't fit in. I'm the guy in the corner, wearing the suit and tie, drinking the cocktails that aren't on the list. Here's looking at you, hippie.

[Jasper]

What you're forgetting is that most people are assholes regardless of creed.  In fact, the only religion I've met that doesn't put out more fuckheads than okay people is the Buddhists.  And I could never be a Buddhist, because there aren't enough fuckheads.  I happen to like them.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Robert Anton Wilson, whatever you may think of him, at least had one thing right. He respected (and created) Discordians that definied themselves through what they could make/build/do/understand rather than what they chose to oppose.

I support opposing things.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[AFK]

Well, I don't know about the author of the OP, buy my world consists of more than two shades of color. 

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Well, I don't know about the author of the OP, buy my world consists of more than two shades of color. 

Guido is my kinda guy.  He's an old-school hate-shitter from the golden age of PD.

Only thing is, he shits his hate at other hate-shitters, which is kinda like bringing Dumb to Britney Spears.

[AFK]

I can appreciate that.  For my part, I find it healthy to shit the hate, oppose the opposition, while, trying to create.  I think there's a balance that can be found, one that probably requires fine tuning from time to time perhaps.  At the same time I'll acknowledge the OP doesn't comre right out and say it's one or the other, but it seems like it is implied, perhaps it wasn't intended. 

[Guido Finucci]

I support opposing things.

So do I. I just don't feel the need to define who I am and what I'm doing by it. If the thing that you oppose ever should go away you'll lose part of yourself and be dimished by that. I just think that getting what you want should make one bigger/better/shinier rather than /sadder/pointless/more pathetic.

Any my original point was going to be that they're all fucking frauds and the only ones worth talking to are the ones who make use of all of that to underline the point. The rest are fuckwits. I just a bit distracted by the demon drink is all.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I support opposing things.

So do I. I just don't feel the need to define who I am and what I'm doing by it. If the thing that you oppose ever should go away you'll lose part of yourself and be dimished by that. I just think that getting what you want should make one bigger/better/shinier rather than /sadder/pointless/more pathetic.

Any my original point was going to be that they're all fucking frauds and the only ones worth talking to are the ones who make use of all of that to underline the point. The rest are fuckwits. I just a bit distracted by the demon drink is all.

1.  No, I never run out of things to oppose.

2.  So, you oppose Discordians.  Or at least the ones that aren't really real Discordians. 

Wouldn't be PD if Guido didn't come by once a quarter to fill the belligerant drunk position.

[Guido Finucci]

1.  No, I never run out of things to oppose.

2.  So, you oppose Discordians.  Or at least the ones that aren't really real Discordians. 

Wouldn't be PD if Guido didn't come by once a quarter to fill the belligerant drunk position.

1. You. You are different. While I maintain that the other fuckwits are frauds, you are simply beyond my ability to spot farudulance. The simple truth is that, even when I'm being honest, your posturing is less than mine, even in my own head; thus, I have no ground from which to call you, even with the infinite lever of drunken righteousness.

2. No. Try again. How can I possibly oppose that which I aspire to be?

7. The fact that, in the last two years, I've only posted while drunk doesn't make me wrong. At least not all the time.

[Jasper]

Bootlicker.

*stirs pot of shit*

[P3nT4gR4m]

7. The fact that, in the last two years, I've only posted while drunk doesn't make me wrong. At least not all the time.

The only way to be wrong is to think that you're right.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

7. The fact that, in the last two years, I've only posted while drunk doesn't make me wrong. At least not all the time.

The only way to be wrong is to think that you're right.

*slaps Silly upside the head for bullshit Yodaisms*

[Jasper]

At least Yoda was interesting.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

At least Yoda was interesting.

*slaps Felix upside the head, just for the fun of it*

[P3nT4gR4m]

*slaps Felix upside the head, just for the fun of it*

:: Slaps TGRR upside the head - cos sometimes I just can't resist stirring up a shit storm ::