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Started by Satans_Santa, January 23, 2007, 10:34:21 PM

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Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 25, 2007, 07:25:24 PM
I think I understand where BMW is coming from, and I tend to agree with him.  I know you don't like nitpickery but perhaps the better word to use is "robotic", adjective, as opposed to "robot", noun.  It may seem nitpickey, but really, there are two different meanings there. 

And meaning is everything when it comes to comunication.
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Quote from: Buddhist_Monk_Wannabe on January 25, 2007, 09:27:42 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 25, 2007, 07:25:24 PM
I think I understand where BMW is coming from, and I tend to agree with him.  I know you don't like nitpickery but perhaps the better word to use is "robotic", adjective, as opposed to "robot", noun.  It may seem nitpickey, but really, there are two different meanings there. 

And meaning is important when it comes to comunication.

fix - words help too

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So does this mean you can have communication without meaning? 

And yes, I have heard the term "meaningless conversation" before but let's be honest, what that really means is that it was a conversation in which one participant had no interest.  There is still meaning conveyed, just not a meaning that one participant finds relevant or important to them.  In any case what would an example of meaningless communication be? 
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Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on January 26, 2007, 03:21:48 PM
So does this mean you can have communication without meaning? 

And yes, I have heard the term "meaningless conversation" before but let's be honest, what that really means is that it was a conversation in which one participant had no interest.  There is still meaning conveyed, just not a meaning that one participant finds relevant or important to them.  In any case what would an example of meaningless communication be? 

At least 3/4 of the shit I come away with, I would imagine.

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High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

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Jasper

To play the social angle, communication IS meaning, always, even if you don't mean anything.

Jenne

Felix has the right answer here.

Sorry folks, but every utterance you utter, every meaningless glance you give off...has meaning.  The linguist in me will have it no other way...

LMNO

Isn't there a lot of room for interpretation, though?


I mean, you can shrug, and think you're saying, "my bad".

But someone can interpret it as you saying, "go fuck yourself".

Jasper

Meaning is inexorably separate from interpretation.  Symantic is an oft-useful refinement of expression, but I find it cumbersome.

LMNO

Quote from: Jenne on January 26, 2007, 07:43:02 PM
Felix has the right answer here.

Sorry folks, but every utterance you utter, every meaningless glance you give off...has meaning.  The linguist in me will have it no other way...

Tourettes.


Just saying.

Jasper

In that case, a Tourette's person's outbursts are there to say, "I have tourette's -FUCK... syndome, BITCH!"

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Jasper

Worth a shot. 

Like I was saying though, everything we do down to body language has an interpretive value.  Nothing is nothing, in human interaction.

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Quote from: Felix Mackay on January 26, 2007, 08:25:12 PM
Worth a shot. 

Like I was saying though, everything we do down to body language has an interpretive value.  Nothing is nothing, in human interaction.

In fact, it seems body language and tone outweigh content.  Which makes the web fascinating as it may be the first mass medium based on content alone.