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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cain on March 22, 2013, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on March 22, 2013, 02:59:02 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 22, 2013, 02:55:08 PM
They decided to break the law and lie repeatedly about doing so. 

So, if what they're doing is already illegal, that means it IS regulated, by law, right? So maybe there should simply be actual enforcement and penalties to reinforce laws that already appear to exist, considering that the press are breaking them?

Only in the most technical sense.  The phone-hacking is illegal, but the companies are systematically hiring private investigators to phone hack, which apparently is not illegal.  Especially when the private investigators are ex-police officers, often backed up by friendly still serving police officers who either passed on information illegally or else refused to seriously investigate claims against ex police officers.

Furthermore, complaints were made, since 2007, to the Press Complaints Commission, about this kind of behaviour and these policies, and the PCC ignored them all.  Because the PCC is run by the newspapers, who were all doing it.

So he has a point, but is coming at things from the wrong direction, because there needs to be more teeth in privacy laws.

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cain

Oh no, UK privacy laws have plenty of teeth.

You just cannot afford them unless you're a politician, pro footballer or foreign billionaire.  Then the UK judges will fall overthemselves to issue a superinjunction, where you cannot print certain information or even print that you have been prevented from printing the information.

There's a systemic failure in the way the UK press, privacy laws, police and government work.  And one of those failures is the unregulated press.  It's not the only one, and an independent watchdog with a legal charter to take steps against invasions of privacy not in the public interest, would be very helpful...but David Cameron (who texted the former NotW editor almost daily, and hired ex-NotW editor Andy Coulson to be his Director of Communications) is refusing any kind press regulation that is not entirely voluntary and toothless.

Salty

The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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QuoteHe was charged with first-degree assault and weapons misconduct

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Salty

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on March 25, 2013, 02:15:45 PM
QuoteHe was charged with first-degree assault and weapons misconduct

I love america, I really do!  :lulz:

Yeah, about that. I'm guessing the DA didn't want to get their hands dirty mercilessly prosecuting a double amputee. But if the guy dies, he's still in critical condition, they're thinking about adding a murder charge.

Instead of, you know, charging him with attempted murder RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

:weary:
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Anna Mae Bollocks

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Elder Iptuous on March 26, 2013, 09:52:35 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/25/law-enforcement-targets-inc-discontinues

Ummmmm

QuoteI found while speaking with officers and trainers in the law enforcement community that there is a hesitation on the part of cops when deadly force is required on subjects with atypical age, frailty or condition (one officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targets so that he would not be caught off guard with such a drastically new experience while on duty).

...this for some reason caused this company spokesperson to think "Oooh, a market niche!" rather than "This officer needs psychiatric help"?
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on March 27, 2013, 12:56:15 AM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on March 26, 2013, 09:52:35 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/25/law-enforcement-targets-inc-discontinues

Ummmmm

QuoteI found while speaking with officers and trainers in the law enforcement community that there is a hesitation on the part of cops when deadly force is required on subjects with atypical age, frailty or condition (one officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targets so that he would not be caught off guard with such a drastically new experience while on duty).

...this for some reason caused this company spokesperson to think "Oooh, a market niche!" rather than "This officer needs psychiatric help"?

HOLEEEEEEEY SHIT.
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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 27, 2013, 01:01:08 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on March 27, 2013, 12:56:15 AM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on March 26, 2013, 09:52:35 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/25/law-enforcement-targets-inc-discontinues

Ummmmm

QuoteI found while speaking with officers and trainers in the law enforcement community that there is a hesitation on the part of cops when deadly force is required on subjects with atypical age, frailty or condition (one officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targets so that he would not be caught off guard with such a drastically new experience while on duty).

...this for some reason caused this company spokesperson to think "Oooh, a market niche!" rather than "This officer needs psychiatric help"?

HOLEEEEEEEY SHIT.

RIGHT?

WTF!
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


EK WAFFLR

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on March 27, 2013, 01:55:32 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 27, 2013, 01:01:08 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on March 27, 2013, 12:56:15 AM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on March 26, 2013, 09:52:35 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/25/law-enforcement-targets-inc-discontinues

Ummmmm

QuoteI found while speaking with officers and trainers in the law enforcement community that there is a hesitation on the part of cops when deadly force is required on subjects with atypical age, frailty or condition (one officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targets so that he would not be caught off guard with such a drastically new experience while on duty).

...this for some reason caused this company spokesperson to think "Oooh, a market niche!" rather than "This officer needs psychiatric help"?

HOLEEEEEEEY SHIT.

RIGHT?

WTF!

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Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: Waffles, Viking Princess of Northern Belgium on March 27, 2013, 01:59:05 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on March 27, 2013, 01:55:32 AM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on March 27, 2013, 01:01:08 AM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on March 27, 2013, 12:56:15 AM
Quote from: Elder Iptuous on March 26, 2013, 09:52:35 PM
http://reason.com/blog/2013/02/25/law-enforcement-targets-inc-discontinues

Ummmmm

QuoteI found while speaking with officers and trainers in the law enforcement community that there is a hesitation on the part of cops when deadly force is required on subjects with atypical age, frailty or condition (one officer explaining that he enlarged photos of his own kids to use as targets so that he would not be caught off guard with such a drastically new experience while on duty).

...this for some reason caused this company spokesperson to think "Oooh, a market niche!" rather than "This officer needs psychiatric help"?

HOLEEEEEEEY SHIT.

RIGHT?

WTF!

:horror:

Seriously, what the FUCK????
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division

LMNO

Idaho...  What the fuck are you doing?

Biology Teacher Faces Investigation for Use Of Word 'Vagina' in Anatomy Lesson

QuoteA Dietrich science teacher is being investigated by the state's professional standards commission after a complaint from parents over his teaching methods.

Parents were offended that he explained the biology of an orgasm and included the word "vagina" during his lesson on the human reproductive system in a tenth-grade biology course...


Anna Mae Bollocks

Quote from: LMNO, PhD (life continues) on March 27, 2013, 02:34:52 PM
Idaho...  What the fuck are you doing?

Biology Teacher Faces Investigation for Use Of Word 'Vagina' in Anatomy Lesson

QuoteA Dietrich science teacher is being investigated by the state's professional standards commission after a complaint from parents over his teaching methods.

Parents were offended that he explained the biology of an orgasm and included the word "vagina" during his lesson on the human reproductive system in a tenth-grade biology course...

Maybe they're supposed to call it a "hoohoo".  :x
Scantily-Clad Inspector of Gigantic and Unnecessary Cashews, Texas Division