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Quote from: Cain on July 05, 2013, 07:19:07 PM
I think now state authorities tend to be (rightly) suspicious of religious organizations and individuals who prevent their children and dependents getting medical treatment.  At the most benign, you have the classic JW-style argument, which should be dismissed for reasons given above.

But when a religious group or individual tries to prevent medical access to their children at all...well, it's sometimes because abuse worse than neglect is going on, and they don't want a medical practitioner to document it.

I think this is one reason the JW's have modified their stance to accept blood platelets, white blood cells, etc. they're going for the "Please do everything you can to save my kid, except for the whole blood transfusion" argument, to seem reasonable.
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 05, 2013, 02:26:49 PM
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QuoteKara, who had been growing weak for several weeks leading up to her death, eventually became too sick to speak, eat, drink or walk. Her parents, Dale and Leilani Neumann, don't belong to any organized religion or church but identify themselves as Pentecostal Christians and believe visiting a doctor is akin to worshipping an idol, the Supreme Court opinion said.

QuoteAfter the girl died, Leilani Neumann told police God would raise Kara from the dead.

Oregon has a big problem with a sect that won't take kids to the doctor; it's led to a revision of the law here. http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-city/index.ssf/2011/10/dale_and_shannon_hickman_of_fo.html

I'm glad that this kind of thing is changing.  I'm conflicted on the right to freedom of religion but punishing them when they do what they believe vs. children getting hurt and dying for their stupid religious beliefs, though.

It doesn't infringe on their right to their religion, so I have no problem with it. It infringes on their right to impose certain aspects of their religion on people who are not capable of making that choice.

Which is a distinction that passes the 1st amendment sniff test.

They'll scream about it anyway. "MY RELIGION TELLS ME TO PUSH MY CRAP ON EVERYBODY!!!!! WAH WAH YOU'RE PERSECUTING MEEEEE!"
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Quote52-year-old Kenneth Webster Enlow of Tulsa was reportedly caught after a woman and her 7-year-old daughter spotted him peering up at them from inside the toilet.

"He went in there, climbed down in the septic and was looking up at the people utilizing that facility," Tulsa County Sheriff's Maj. Shannon Clark said in a statement.

Firefighters had to hose down Enlow, who was "covered in human waste," before transporting him to a local hospital for evaluation.

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Quote52-year-old Kenneth Webster Enlow of Tulsa was reportedly caught after a woman and her 7-year-old daughter spotted him peering up at them from inside the toilet.

"He went in there, climbed down in the septic and was looking up at the people utilizing that facility," Tulsa County Sheriff's Maj. Shannon Clark said in a statement.

Firefighters had to hose down Enlow, who was "covered in human waste," before transporting him to a local hospital for evaluation.


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Not a news story so much as an essay. But I thought it fit. :D

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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


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"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Howl

Horrible, horrible.  Half the population is Lucille Ball.   :lulz:
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You know, I could understand the anti-abortion position a lot more if they also supported free reproductive health care including contraception and prenatal care. But almost universally, they don't, which tells me that it isn't about the well-being of babies, it's about controlling women. Otherwise, they would be picketing for free prenatal care for poor women.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Howl

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on July 09, 2013, 06:50:53 PM
You know, I could understand the anti-abortion position a lot more if they also supported free reproductive health care including contraception and prenatal care. But almost universally, they don't, which tells me that it isn't about the well-being of babies, it's about controlling women. Otherwise, they would be picketing for free prenatal care for poor women.

Thing is, the inspiration for my new story is basically just taken from the news.   :horrormirth:
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2013, 07:06:04 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on July 09, 2013, 06:50:53 PM
You know, I could understand the anti-abortion position a lot more if they also supported free reproductive health care including contraception and prenatal care. But almost universally, they don't, which tells me that it isn't about the well-being of babies, it's about controlling women. Otherwise, they would be picketing for free prenatal care for poor women.

Thing is, the inspiration for my new story is basically just taken from the news.   :horrormirth:

No response other than  :horrormirth:
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Doktor Howl

Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on July 09, 2013, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on July 09, 2013, 07:06:04 PM
Quote from: M. Nigel Salt on July 09, 2013, 06:50:53 PM
You know, I could understand the anti-abortion position a lot more if they also supported free reproductive health care including contraception and prenatal care. But almost universally, they don't, which tells me that it isn't about the well-being of babies, it's about controlling women. Otherwise, they would be picketing for free prenatal care for poor women.

Thing is, the inspiration for my new story is basically just taken from the news.   :horrormirth:

No response other than  :horrormirth:

I put more up.  I'm in a mood.
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