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Junkenstein

Quote from: McGrupp on August 17, 2013, 04:44:55 AM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 16, 2013, 09:54:42 PM
Quote from: McGrupp on August 16, 2013, 09:42:38 PM
This could just be a marketing gimmick. If so, its working. I'm planning to go eat there tomorrow.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/08/06/fast-food-joint-pays-workers-12-an-hour-and-lives-to-tell-the-tale/

I'm always leary of posting news that have video from work because I can't see the video. Hopefully its not just 12 minutes of a guy screaming ethnic slurs. I'm just assuming its not.

My bet - Almost the exactly the same as any comparable local place. I bet it'd be almost equal in a blind taste test. It may appear to taste slightly better due to the social justice side of things but I'd put good money on "Meh"

That's pretty awesome, actually.

Sure seems that way. I'm driving right by there tomorrow. I'll let you know how the food is.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Junkenstein

Quote from: Junkenstein on August 17, 2013, 05:40:29 PM
Quote from: McGrupp on August 17, 2013, 04:44:55 AM
Quote from: TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR GENITALS on August 16, 2013, 09:54:42 PM
Quote from: McGrupp on August 16, 2013, 09:42:38 PM
This could just be a marketing gimmick. If so, its working. I'm planning to go eat there tomorrow.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/08/06/fast-food-joint-pays-workers-12-an-hour-and-lives-to-tell-the-tale/

I'm always leary of posting news that have video from work because I can't see the video. Hopefully its not just 12 minutes of a guy screaming ethnic slurs. I'm just assuming its not.

My bet - Almost the exactly the same as any comparable local place. I bet it'd be almost equal in a blind taste test. It may appear to taste slightly better due to the social justice side of things but I'd put good money on "Meh"

That's pretty awesome, actually.

Sure seems that way. I'm driving right by there tomorrow. I'll let you know how the food is.

I am likely to break this fucking laptop by the end of the day.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

McGrupp

I can now personally attest that Moo Cluck Moo is pretty awesome.

It doesn't have a drive thu window and its more like a diner in that regard but you can still get some good food in less than 5 minutes. I had a Moo burger with bacon and a Fat Cow Milkshake. Both were pretty good although you're right, it's about comparable to a local coney island burger or other diner, which is still fairly tastier than McDonalds. (although that's not a high bar)

They also use only nonantibiotic nongrowthhormone milk, beef, and chicken. When possible they buy from local michigan farmers/suppliers. All their soda comes from the Northwoods Soda company based in northern Michigan and uses natural cane. They even bake their own buns each day.

http://www.moocluckmoo.com/#!food/cfbl
QuoteAll Natural Berkshire Bacon:​
Our superior bacon comes from Eden Farms  acorn fed, 100% Berkshire heirloom pork.  Eden Farms is owned by 30 Midwest farm families committed to practicing humane, ecological and sustainable farming practices. Pigs are raised in open, unconfined spaces, fed a 100% vegetarian diet and are never given antibiotics or hormones for growth.

The workers that I spoke with confirmed that they do indeed get started at $12 an hour. It's also not in a very ritzy area. Telegraph road is kinda like 8 mile rd only without so many strip clubs. The food was reasonably priced. They have a limited menu but most things are $3-$6 (actually $3 not this $2.99 BS) They also deliver, although I'm way out of their area.

The owner/manager who was working their explained it to me like this: "People vote with their dollar. If we do the right things we give people something good to vote for and we stay in business and everybody wins."

It seems a little silly to rave about the place like this, but I've tried to find a cynical angle for this place and can't find one. It really does seem pretty awesome. I hope it catches on.


Junkenstein

That's pretty good to know. I hope this kind of corporate-social responsibility eventually filters up to larger firms. The living wage concept keeps coming up but very few places have the balls to actually do anything about it so it's a win in that regard too.

It's also a pretty smart move as I'd bet the old Ford principles are at play here. Raise workers wages=workers spend more money on your own products through loyalty increasing sales and revenue at source.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: McGrupp on August 17, 2013, 09:08:43 PM
I can now personally attest that Moo Cluck Moo is pretty awesome.

It doesn't have a drive thu window and its more like a diner in that regard but you can still get some good food in less than 5 minutes. I had a Moo burger with bacon and a Fat Cow Milkshake. Both were pretty good although you're right, it's about comparable to a local coney island burger or other diner, which is still fairly tastier than McDonalds. (although that's not a high bar)

They also use only nonantibiotic nongrowthhormone milk, beef, and chicken. When possible they buy from local michigan farmers/suppliers. All their soda comes from the Northwoods Soda company based in northern Michigan and uses natural cane. They even bake their own buns each day.

http://www.moocluckmoo.com/#!food/cfbl
QuoteAll Natural Berkshire Bacon:​
Our superior bacon comes from Eden Farms  acorn fed, 100% Berkshire heirloom pork.  Eden Farms is owned by 30 Midwest farm families committed to practicing humane, ecological and sustainable farming practices. Pigs are raised in open, unconfined spaces, fed a 100% vegetarian diet and are never given antibiotics or hormones for growth.

The workers that I spoke with confirmed that they do indeed get started at $12 an hour. It's also not in a very ritzy area. Telegraph road is kinda like 8 mile rd only without so many strip clubs. The food was reasonably priced. They have a limited menu but most things are $3-$6 (actually $3 not this $2.99 BS) They also deliver, although I'm way out of their area.

The owner/manager who was working their explained it to me like this: "People vote with their dollar. If we do the right things we give people something good to vote for and we stay in business and everybody wins."

It seems a little silly to rave about the place like this, but I've tried to find a cynical angle for this place and can't find one. It really does seem pretty awesome. I hope it catches on.

That is RAD! Super, super rad.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: McGrupp on August 17, 2013, 09:08:43 PM
I can now personally attest that Moo Cluck Moo is pretty awesome.

It doesn't have a drive thu window and its more like a diner in that regard but you can still get some good food in less than 5 minutes. I had a Moo burger with bacon and a Fat Cow Milkshake. Both were pretty good although you're right, it's about comparable to a local coney island burger or other diner, which is still fairly tastier than McDonalds. (although that's not a high bar)

They also use only nonantibiotic nongrowthhormone milk, beef, and chicken. When possible they buy from local michigan farmers/suppliers. All their soda comes from the Northwoods Soda company based in northern Michigan and uses natural cane. They even bake their own buns each day.

http://www.moocluckmoo.com/#!food/cfbl
QuoteAll Natural Berkshire Bacon:​
Our superior bacon comes from Eden Farms  acorn fed, 100% Berkshire heirloom pork.  Eden Farms is owned by 30 Midwest farm families committed to practicing humane, ecological and sustainable farming practices. Pigs are raised in open, unconfined spaces, fed a 100% vegetarian diet and are never given antibiotics or hormones for growth.

The workers that I spoke with confirmed that they do indeed get started at $12 an hour. It's also not in a very ritzy area. Telegraph road is kinda like 8 mile rd only without so many strip clubs. The food was reasonably priced. They have a limited menu but most things are $3-$6 (actually $3 not this $2.99 BS) They also deliver, although I'm way out of their area.

The owner/manager who was working their explained it to me like this: "People vote with their dollar. If we do the right things we give people something good to vote for and we stay in business and everybody wins."

It seems a little silly to rave about the place like this, but I've tried to find a cynical angle for this place and can't find one. It really does seem pretty awesome. I hope it catches on.

It's called doing well by doing right.  And it works.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on August 19, 2013, 12:27:33 AM
Quote from: McGrupp on August 17, 2013, 09:08:43 PM
I can now personally attest that Moo Cluck Moo is pretty awesome.

It doesn't have a drive thu window and its more like a diner in that regard but you can still get some good food in less than 5 minutes. I had a Moo burger with bacon and a Fat Cow Milkshake. Both were pretty good although you're right, it's about comparable to a local coney island burger or other diner, which is still fairly tastier than McDonalds. (although that's not a high bar)

They also use only nonantibiotic nongrowthhormone milk, beef, and chicken. When possible they buy from local michigan farmers/suppliers. All their soda comes from the Northwoods Soda company based in northern Michigan and uses natural cane. They even bake their own buns each day.

http://www.moocluckmoo.com/#!food/cfbl
QuoteAll Natural Berkshire Bacon:​
Our superior bacon comes from Eden Farms  acorn fed, 100% Berkshire heirloom pork.  Eden Farms is owned by 30 Midwest farm families committed to practicing humane, ecological and sustainable farming practices. Pigs are raised in open, unconfined spaces, fed a 100% vegetarian diet and are never given antibiotics or hormones for growth.

The workers that I spoke with confirmed that they do indeed get started at $12 an hour. It's also not in a very ritzy area. Telegraph road is kinda like 8 mile rd only without so many strip clubs. The food was reasonably priced. They have a limited menu but most things are $3-$6 (actually $3 not this $2.99 BS) They also deliver, although I'm way out of their area.

The owner/manager who was working their explained it to me like this: "People vote with their dollar. If we do the right things we give people something good to vote for and we stay in business and everybody wins."

It seems a little silly to rave about the place like this, but I've tried to find a cynical angle for this place and can't find one. It really does seem pretty awesome. I hope it catches on.

It's called doing well by doing right.  And it works.

I'd like to see more of it.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Triple Zero

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e-prime disclaimer: let it seem fairly unclear I understand the apparent subjectivity of the above statements. maybe.

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P3nT4gR4m

In Soviet Russia stuff does pastafarians

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

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Russia trying to be like the USSR without the big show-off parades and cool hats is just creepy.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

Junkenstein

Expect VICE to turn to utter shit shortly:
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/content/murdoch-acquires-stake-vice-it-looks-aggressive-push-india-and-europe

QuoteRupert Murdoch has bought a 5 per cent stake in digital media group Vice for a reported $70m.

The deal, expected to be completed today, will be done through Murdoch's 21st Century Fox entertainment division, which decoupled from parent company News Corp and its publishing businesses earlier this year.

Vice began as an underground Canadian music magazine in the 1990s has grown in recent years into an international multi-media company.

In 2012, it generated global revenue of around $175m, according to the Financial Times.

The FT said that Murdoch's investment would help its "aggressive push" into India and help its expansion in Europe, where 21st Century Fox already owns stakes in a number of broadcasters.

Shane Smith, chief executive and co-founder of Vice, told the paper: "I want us to be the next MTV, ESPN and CNN rolled into one – and everyone always rolls their eyes.

"The reality is that MTV was bought by Viacom and CNN went to Time Warner. We have set ourselves up to build a global platform but we have maintained control."

Following the deal, minority shareholders will make up around 25 per cent of the company, but Smith and the other co-founders will continue to have control of the board.

Next up, Ted Turner looking to invest in NSFWCORP.

Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Junkenstein on August 19, 2013, 04:37:32 PM
Expect VICE to turn to utter shit shortly:
http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/content/murdoch-acquires-stake-vice-it-looks-aggressive-push-india-and-europe

QuoteRupert Murdoch has bought a 5 per cent stake in digital media group Vice for a reported $70m.

The deal, expected to be completed today, will be done through Murdoch's 21st Century Fox entertainment division, which decoupled from parent company News Corp and its publishing businesses earlier this year.

Vice began as an underground Canadian music magazine in the 1990s has grown in recent years into an international multi-media company.

In 2012, it generated global revenue of around $175m, according to the Financial Times.

The FT said that Murdoch's investment would help its "aggressive push" into India and help its expansion in Europe, where 21st Century Fox already owns stakes in a number of broadcasters.

Shane Smith, chief executive and co-founder of Vice, told the paper: "I want us to be the next MTV, ESPN and CNN rolled into one – and everyone always rolls their eyes.

"The reality is that MTV was bought by Viacom and CNN went to Time Warner. We have set ourselves up to build a global platform but we have maintained control."

Following the deal, minority shareholders will make up around 25 per cent of the company, but Smith and the other co-founders will continue to have control of the board.

Next up, Ted Turner looking to invest in NSFWCORP.

Oh god damn it.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


P3nT4gR4m

that seriously reeks of piss.  :argh!:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

Junkenstein

What, did you think you would get to keep the NICE THING?

Or is the quiet swoop of the Murdoch media monster adding yet another outlet for crazy bile that sucks?

Personally, the largest knock for me here is that the sold anything at all to Murdoch. They can't make any excuses regarding ignorance and this was a perfect chance to make a very large, public point. Increasing market value way beyond $70 million. Unless the cash is augmented by the promise of favours and airtime. FOX smells something they can sell to the Occupy crowd is what this boils down to.

Basic rule of investment - Look for 3X cash back from what you put in. Disney paid £2.5 billion for star wars. That means they WILL milk it for £7.5 billion. Minimum. That's a lot of plastic figurines to sell to impressionable kids.

Fox just paid 70 million. That means they're looking for 210 million. That's a lot of plastic viewpoints to push to impressionable kids. The rot has already set in as they've not run a story on this themselves yet from what I can see.

Behold, Media, How I hate thee.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.