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Started by Sir Perineal, March 10, 2007, 08:59:14 PM

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#90
March 21, 2007, 04:27:40 PM
Quote from: vexati0n on March 21, 2007, 04:24:06 PM
arguing against obvious disproof of your argument might not get you anywhere logically.

but it won't get you impeached either, apparently.

It will if you're arguing with me. I call these soft targets and it's all for the benefit of the audience  :lulz:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
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#91
March 21, 2007, 04:28:47 PM
your new avatar sucks less than the holocaust, btw.

(thats a compliment)
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#92
March 21, 2007, 04:39:13 PM
Quote from: SillyCybin on March 21, 2007, 04:22:55 PM
Quote from: Jenne on March 21, 2007, 04:08:10 PM
Conviction in your argument wins many over even when your argument is shite or weak.  And knowledge that you sway the opposite direction will lead your oponent to think you aren't really behind what you are saying.  It's just strategy, is all.

But if you don't care, you don't care.  That's that.

Lack of conviction in an argument actually lends it strength.

"I don't believe this but I can't argue against" is the nearest I will come to a statement of fact.

It's more honest than "I believe this and will not back down even if you prove me wrong." -- implies you have not considered alternatives which may only have become apparent after you adopted the belief. Which, in turn, implies you have not completely thought your argument through.

Hm, I disagree.  I think a firm statement coupled by belief in what you are saying, confirmed belief, is palpable and can sway others. 

vex's point is a valid one.  Our "fearless leader" has been fully convicted and wins people over time and again based on weak arguments.  At least, I THINK that was vex's point...read it too fast.

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#93
March 21, 2007, 04:40:24 PM
JENNE: you made a mistake when you assumed i have a point.  i don't have a point, and even if i did, it would just be a predetermined one :(
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#94
March 21, 2007, 04:45:33 PM
also, i take back everything i just said

please to flush my credibility down your favourite cradle of creativity thx

writing under erasure FTW

was it LHX that had something like "i take back everything i just said" in his sig for a while?
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#95
March 21, 2007, 04:55:11 PM
Quote from: triple zero on March 21, 2007, 04:45:33 PM
also, i take back everything i just said

If you don't flush yourself with conviction, why would we ever believe you?  :p

Jenne

#96
March 21, 2007, 05:27:37 PM
Plllbbbttt!

And, *reverses argument*, nothing is ever worth arguing over unless you can see the other person's side.

LMNO

#97
March 21, 2007, 06:02:27 PM
Jenne, and example:

"I firmly believe that 2+2=5"

"Bullshit, here's proof that 2+2=4"

"Really?  Whoops.  Shit.  My bad.  I reverse my conviction 180 degrees."




I mean, rly.  If you are given evidence that your convictions are in error, to not change your convictions is moronic.

Jenne

#98
March 21, 2007, 06:08:17 PM
But to state it at the outset?

That's actually what I meant.  You do that enough, and people will STILL think you're moronic.

But yes, of course, if you don't capitulate after being shown the error of your ways, then you ARE George W. Bush.

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#99
March 21, 2007, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 21, 2007, 06:02:27 PM
I mean, rly.  If you are given evidence that your convictions are in error, to not change your convictions is American.

Fixed.
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#100
March 21, 2007, 06:33:32 PM
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Yeah.  But it's funnier that way, right?

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#101
March 21, 2007, 06:46:32 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 21, 2007, 06:33:32 PM
:lulz:


Yeah.  But it's funnier that way, right?

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" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
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