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Re: OFFICIAL POLITICAL CARTOONS/PIC FREAD.
« Reply #180 on: November 24, 2007, 09:14:08 pm »
I'm a Republican, but I'm an anti-Neocon Republican so it sort of makes me an orphan.

So I'm guessing that you read The Economist?

Reading The Economist makes you Republican?

I just thought it gave you a first hand view of the idiocy of Thomas Friedman.

Well, that too, but most American Republicans would be shocked and appalled by The Economist. They'd probably call it liberal propaganda.

Remember, the American political compass stands at the magnetic North Pole. Names mean nothing, ideologies mean less. Almost everyone's either apathetic or a fucktard.

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« Reply #181 on: November 25, 2007, 12:37:28 am »
Well, that would explain this

http://www.alternet.org/columnists/story/21354/

A new poll reveals that most Americans don't know their right from their left ... wing. The right knows this and leads the manipulation race.

The Harris polling agency last week released the results of an interesting study. In a survey of 2,209 adults, they discovered that most Americans only have the vaguest idea of the meaning of two important pairs of words that play crucial roles in the national political discourse: conservative and liberal, and left and right.

Some of the numbers are surprising. According to the survey, 37 percent of Americans think liberals oppose gun control, or else they are not sure if liberals oppose gun control. Likewise, 27 percent of respondents thought a right-winger was someone who supported affirmative action. Furthermore, the survey showed that respondents generally viewed the paired concepts liberals and left-wingers and conservatives and right-wingers as possessing, respectively, generally similar political beliefs – with one caveat. In both cases, respondents were roughly 10 percent more clueless about left-wingers and right-wingers than they were about liberals and conservatives.

"The label left-winger is broadly perceived to be similar to liberal," the agency concluded, "except that more people are not sure what it means."

Respondents were asked to define the labels according to what their positions were on seven "political issues": abortion rights, gun control, cutting taxes, gay rights, same-sex marriage, affirmative action and moral values. This list of issues is preposterous in itself as a symbolic reflection of the political landscape, but that's a discussion for another time. To me the most instructive category was "moral values." According to the survey, 78 percent of respondents believe conservatives support moral values, while only 40 percent said the same about left-wingers. In fact, 29 percent said they believed left-wingers actually opposed moral values.


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Re: OFFICIAL POLITICAL CARTOONS/PIC FREAD.
« Reply #182 on: November 25, 2007, 01:30:11 am »
A study is good for being accurate, but I didn't need one to tell me that America is clueless about politics. Without any formal definition or criteria for labels like "left-" and "right-wing," or "liberal" and "conservative," declaring yourself to be one or the other has practically no meaning in the States. A politician can really only use these labels in accordance with the uneducated opinions people have about them (i.e., Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter's followers, who only know the word "liberal" as a curse word) for manipulative purposes.

I'm beginning to wonder how much of a difference it would make if people like this guy ---> :mullet: knew the difference between social conservatives and fiscal conservatives.

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« Reply #183 on: November 25, 2007, 01:45:33 am »
"According to the survey, 78 percent of respondents believe conservatives support moral values, while only 40 percent said the same about left-wingers. In fact, 29 percent said they believed left-wingers actually opposed moral values."

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! That's priceless.
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Re: OFFICIAL POLITICAL CARTOONS/PIC FREAD.
« Reply #184 on: November 25, 2007, 04:22:30 pm »
yeah, but where do those 2,209 adults come from?

are they spread out throughout the country?

is 2,209 adults really a fair sample of 300,000,000 people?


frustrating article anyway though

For my part, I admit it - I don't pay a lot of attention to where liberals and conservatives stand on the specific issues. But what the fuck does it matter anyway?

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« Reply #185 on: November 25, 2007, 05:49:40 pm »
I'm a Republican, but I'm an anti-Neocon Republican so it sort of makes me an orphan.

So I'm guessing that you read The Economist?

Reading The Economist makes you Republican?

I just thought it gave you a first hand view of the idiocy of Thomas Friedman.

Well, that too, but most American Republicans would be shocked and appalled by The Economist. They'd probably call it liberal propaganda.

Remember, the American political compass stands at the magnetic North Pole. Names mean nothing, ideologies mean less. Almost everyone's either apathetic or a fucktard.

Can't I be both?

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« Reply #186 on: November 25, 2007, 09:38:29 pm »
Well, that too, but most American Republicans would be shocked and appalled by The Economist. They'd probably call it liberal propaganda.

Remember, the American political compass stands at the magnetic North Pole. Names mean nothing, ideologies mean less. Almost everyone's either apathetic or a fucktard.

Can't I be both?

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Re: OFFICIAL POLITICAL CARTOONS/PIC FREAD.
« Reply #187 on: November 28, 2007, 11:46:27 am »
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« Reply #188 on: November 28, 2007, 11:48:53 am »
Those people are pretty good.  Almost as good as the pro-war protestors who put on suits and march around, demanding war with several countries at once.

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« Reply #189 on: November 28, 2007, 03:24:10 pm »

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« Reply #190 on: November 28, 2007, 03:46:50 pm »
"This tears at the fabric of our society"
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Re: OFFICIAL POLITICAL CARTOONS/PIC FREAD.
« Reply #191 on: November 28, 2007, 08:21:47 pm »

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« Reply #192 on: November 28, 2007, 08:56:43 pm »
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« Reply #193 on: November 28, 2007, 09:32:47 pm »
As funny as that is, one day the American right are going to have to simply learn that socialist and liberal do not mean the same things, and are in fact diametrically opposed in certain areas.

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Re: OFFICIAL POLITICAL CARTOONS/PIC FREAD.
« Reply #194 on: November 28, 2007, 10:46:18 pm »
The American Right learn?  lol