On and On

[LHX]

"Looking on various street corners - I'm sure you've seen it yourself - standing on the corner is an alleged brother dressed in blue, or green, red and black... And stating the news that the revolution is coming and you better get ready. Sort of like... the end of the world is coming. Unfortunately, the world is just gonna drag on and on."
- Unknown sample from the track "Street Corner", Masta Killa feat. GZA, Inspectah Deck

im not sure what the current themes on the board are, so pardon me if this clashes with what is going on



back when i first started posting on this board, i was coming to a reluctant understanding that it is not possible to affect wide-scale social change and i found the adjustment to that understanding to be difficult

living in a situation that features self-destructive behavior - the instinct is to determine a course of action that would prevent calamity from happening

but it is clear that due to the nature of the beast - such prevention is not possible


back in late summer 2005, these conclusions i was coming to were being re-inforced on this board which is one of the reasons why i started posting here in the first place

i really never cared much about the PD and altho i found the observations regarding the interaction between chaos and order to be interesting - they were nothing that could not be found elsewhere in different forms

what was here, though, was a group of people who seemed to be acknowledging the same unfortunate tendencies that i was seeing

a lot of Rev's rants at that time were detailing a more down-to-earth prognostication of the future that lay in store for us where we live, and a lot of the community here seemed to agree with the notion that it was unlikely to see any dramatic events occuring on this planet
instead - the observation was that we were in for a prolonged and intensifying social decline and degeneration

no explosive climax
just a grind


over the past year-and-a-half, a lot of different angles have been explored on these boards, and in taking an inventory of everything, i can see how they relate back to that original point -

being in a situation that seems like it can be remedied and contrasted with the cold, hard understanding that it will not be remedied

subsequently, we are left asking the question why

why is it not possible to fix such a situation?
why is it not possible to avoid something negative which seems so imminent?

a lot of times you will hear people ask these types of questions almost as tho it is a hobby to consider larger metaphysical issues, but around these boards, the issues have been approached and deconstructed in a relatively serious manner (some people might even say too serious for a 'discordian' message board)

it seems that the answers are not clear
but it seems that the answers are understood

there seem to be flaws in the foundation of communication and subsequently society and the minds and logical processes of man

this renders us unable to communicate fully

this means that you cannot take an understanding and communicate it so that your brother or sister will share this understanding

you cannot communicate an understanding of poverty
you cannot communicate an understanding of rejection
you cannot communicate an understanding of abandonment

you can spread the knowledge that these things exist
but
you cannot instill an understanding


i have said in the past that there is something undefined that the people on these boards have in common
and
it is my hunch that it has something to do with having been forced to encounter some of these undefinable understandings

what i mean by that is - a lot or people here have experienced an apocalypse of sorts
and are subsequently able to see when circumstances are approaching where other people will be experiencing the same thing

it is not a physically pleasant experience - and although the desire is there to try and help people to avoid the unpleasantness - it is becoming apparent that this is simply not possible




im dropping all this shit off my dome right now and i have to step away for a few minutes

this will be continued later

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[LMNO]

Oh, fuck.  You're just gonna leave us hanging?


Many, you better have some sort of ending to this, or I will be pissed.

[Payne]

Im interested. I will withhold commenting fully until you are done, but A " Personal Apocalypse"? I could buy into that theory.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I know this apocalypse of which you speak. I think you are right. The apocalypse leads to an understanding of sorts. I can usually work out, pretty quickly, face to face with someone, whether or not they've really been there. It's like a 'nam' thing, vets recognise the 1000yard stare or some shit.

Online it's harder to know for sure but I can't help hazarding a guess based on what I read.

Line in Fight Club movie springs to mind - "Hitting bottom is not a weekend retreat"

Apocalypse seems to happen on many levels. Society apocalypses, small- medium sized groups of people apocalypse. Sometimes the results are staggering, sometimes barely noticable. It seems to follow the same basic thread of - the bottom falling out of everything.

[Triple Zero]

Oh, fuck.  You're just gonna leave us hanging?


Many, you better have some sort of ending to this, or I will be pissed.

--->

   no explosive climax
   just a grind

[LMNO]