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[Cain]

Does anyone remember that the surge was originally supposed to quell enough violence so the Iraqi Gvt could have some breathing room to establish itself?


Yeah.  That worked pretty well, don't you think?  While the violence did go down a little, the surge has failed because the reason for the surge didn't happen.

Violence has gone down because of a unilateral ceasefire by Sadr's Mahdi Army, and Sadr has no fear of US military power in Iraq, it has nothing to do with US troop presence.

[Suu]

So basically us for not holding their hands through it, and them for well...not doing shit. 


I have to admit that I've never felt so fervently about politics since I joined this board. After my first voting experience was the 2000 presidential elections...in FLORIDA...I gave up hope. Now I'm actually starting to give a shit again. THANX PD.COM!

[tyrannosaurus vex]

It's Ron Paul's fault.

[Cain]

But then who's at fault? Us, them, or both?

The US Occupational Authorty set the groundwork for the current government.  Their policies excluded key players at early stages and helped exacerbate political divides between Shi'ites and Sunnis.  They wanted Iraq to be Ohio, or failing that, Lebanon.  Iraq is neither, both the models fail.  The election system set up by them creates weak parties and coalition governments and is not representative on a national level.  It gives far too much influence and power to local political issues which, along with the violence, have helped Balkanize the country.

Edit: that said, the shitheads in the Sunni Triangle didn't have to side with Al-Qaeda, or ethnically cleanse the area of Shi'ite Muslims.  And vice-versa in Baghdad with Sadr City.  The problem comes in untangling the origins of the insurgency....documents suggest it was Saddam, who with a few loyalists took advantage of the situation in Iraq.  However, Saddam liked to believe he was in charge even when he wasn't, and since he was the one with the rubber stamps and the typewriters, I don't totally believe this scenario, because he was deeply unpopular.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

That's completely wrong. Iraq is a mess because they hate our freedoms.

[Suu]

It's Baywatch's fault.

[Mangrove]

Super Tuesday conversation overheard by Mrs Mang's ex-husband:

A Moron: What's this country coming to? Having to choose between a nigger and a bitch?

So that's what's happening in the liberal, progressive North East.

[tyrannosaurus vex]

It's Baywatch's fault.

That damn show. First my extra laundry, now this.

[Suu]

Super Tuesday conversation overheard by Mrs Mang's ex-husband:

A Moron: What's this country coming to? Having to choose between a nigger and a bitch?

So that's what's happening in the liberal, progressive North East.

No, that's Connecticut. You guys don't count. Sorry.

But yes, that is a prime example of a perfectly good vote gone to waste. Now he WILL vote for McCain based on the fact that the Dems running are "a nigger and a bitch".

Welcome to America, Mang. 

Political blunders aside, how much did the UK bitch when Thatcher was elected?

[Cain]

People stopped bitching about Thatcher?

[Suu]

 


How much dissent was there about a woman in the runnings for PM I mean?

[Mangrove]

How much dissent was there about a woman in the runnings for PM I mean?

Well my socialist grandfather died in 1993 and I have it on good authority by CT's best psychics, that he's still pissed about Thatcher.

[Cain]

The funny thing was...most of her Cabinet, hell the whole Tory party, were bigger wimps than she was.

Of course, given the track record of the Tory party and kinky sexual preferences involving leather and domination, perhaps its not such a surprise they put Thatcher in charge...

Anyway, moving swiftly on, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin and Glenn Beck are all willing to support Hillary over McCain.

No troll.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/02/limbaughs_mccain_derangement_s.asp
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/30/michelle-tells-glenn-beck-i-wont-vote-for-mccain-over-hillary/
http://factbeat.com/get_story.php?id=210
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/016839.php

[Suu]

I was about to bring up what Pakistan must have thought about Bhutto, then I remembered that she was recently assassinated.  That answers my question.


Crap, even Campbell wasn't popular in Canada, was she?


Women must suck.

The funny thing was...most of her Cabinet, hell the whole Tory party, were bigger wimps than she was.

Of course, given the track record of the Tory party and kinky sexual preferences involving leather and domination, perhaps its not such a surprise they put Thatcher in charge...

Anyway, moving swiftly on, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin and Glenn Beck are all willing to support Hillary over McCain.

No troll.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/02/limbaughs_mccain_derangement_s.asp
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/30/michelle-tells-glenn-beck-i-wont-vote-for-mccain-over-hillary/
http://factbeat.com/get_story.php?id=210
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/016839.php

lolwut?

I used to love listening to Glenn Beck before he became TOO much of an asshole. "It's just another isolated incident".

But Coulter is either feeling his/her womanly side, or has completely snapped.

[Cain]

New Zealand's Prime Minister, Helen Clark, is highly thought of.

Of course, all she really has to do is keep the flow of sheep coming into the country, and not do anything stupid, like try to invade Indonesia and she's pretty much set anyway.  Even Hitler couldn't ruin New Zealand that much.