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Doktor Howl

You know, I'm beginning to feel that I'm not cool enough.  I'm also beginning to feel that maybe Discordianism has been a sham all along, that maybe I really am the only person who feels the way I do about the world in general.

I have this paralyzing suspicion that this really IS just another tribe of apes, and that I've wasted nearly a decade of my life.  If I'm not being berated for not being cool enough, someone's busy explaining to a troll that she's right, and everyone here is wrong...That all "Discordianism" is, is dressing up like AKK and prancing around like an idiot.  That person ALWAYS explains to new people that they're fine and we're shitheels, and if he was the only one, I'd blow it off.

But the whole fucking thing has become nothing but a snarkfest, a way of needling each other for cheap points, and I see no fucking point to it.

It just isn't fun, anymore. 

It's really no better than what the Church of the Subgenius turned into, in a different but equally horrible way.
Molon Lube

Adios

Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 04, 2010, 07:21:00 PM
You know, I'm beginning to feel that I'm not cool enough.  I'm also beginning to feel that maybe Discordianism has been a sham all along, that maybe I really am the only person who feels the way I do about the world in general.

I have this paralyzing suspicion that this really IS just another tribe of apes, and that I've wasted nearly a decade of my life.  If I'm not being berated for not being cool enough, someone's busy explaining to a troll that she's right, and everyone here is wrong...That all "Discordianism" is, is dressing up like AKK and prancing around like an idiot.  That person ALWAYS explains to new people that they're fine and we're shitheels, and if he was the only one, I'd blow it off.

But the whole fucking thing has become nothing but a snarkfest, a way of needling each other for cheap points, and I see no fucking point to it.

It just isn't fun, anymore. 

It's really no better than what the Church of the Subgenius turned into, in a different but equally horrible way.

I have never read the damn book nor do I intend to. I make Discordianism what I want it to be, which can change hourly. IMO anyone who tends to follow a prescribed set of rules or a dogma is missing the entire point.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Hawk on June 04, 2010, 07:26:01 PM


I have never read the damn book nor do I intend to.

Not really the point.
Molon Lube

AFK

Quote from: LMNO on June 04, 2010, 07:05:10 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 04, 2010, 06:58:39 PM
So have we become the Discordian equivalent of MTV? 

Hey, that was pretty cold.

Well, then please, I would like others to answer my original question.  Isn't it a little disconcerting to think that there is this supposed norm on a the site www.principiadiscordia.com ?  It seems quite antithetical to me.  But what has been suggested in this thread so far is that PED is outside the norm because of the way she posts.  And now it has been revealed that I am outside of this norm as well.  

So what the fuck does that mean?  
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 04, 2010, 07:34:34 PM
Quote from: LMNO on June 04, 2010, 07:05:10 PM
Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 04, 2010, 06:58:39 PM
So have we become the Discordian equivalent of MTV? 

Hey, that was pretty cold.

Well, then please, I would like others to answer my original question.  Isn't it a little disconcerting to think that there is this supposed norm on a the site www.principiadiscordia.com ?  It seems quite antithetical to me.  But what has been suggested in this thread so far is that PED is outside the norm because of the way she posts.  And now it has been revealed that I am outside of this norm as well.  

So what the fuck does that mean?  

It means this has been an 8 year failure.

It means that we have to accept abusive trolls as equals (or, in Cram's opinion, our superiors).  It means that the board owner has stated that he isn't a Discordian, and that those of us who are (were) aren't cool enough for his standards.  It means that this is nothing but a nit-picking site for OCD pedants.  It means maybe I should just forget all this shit, and spend more time working on my career.
Molon Lube

AFK

And let me be very clear here.  I don't actually think we have become the Discordian equivalent of MTV.  This place still does Discordia.  I am just troubled by what I've been reading in this thread.  I mean, we always scoff at those who talk about being Really Real for Realness, but in this very thread we have regulars talking about this "norm" that exists.  Isn't that pretty much in the same vein as Really Real Discordianism?  It's too close for my taste.  Or, the answer is that this is just another internet forum that really isn't necessarily about Discordianism and that we'll have our tribal norms just like any other site.  
Cynicism is a blank check for failure.

LMNO

You have to admit, there are certain behaviors that would not get on well here.

A libertarian pagan social conservative would be extremely uncomfortable.

But the core principle remains true.  Anyone is able to post anything they want (with exceptions).  Anyone here is able to reply to that post in the manner they feel is appropriate (with exceptions).

Whatever "norm" that might exist is, for the most part, whatever the majority of responses happen to be.

This is not a perfect system, and has led to massive flame wars and multiple flounces, on all sides.


Doktor Howl

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 04, 2010, 07:42:41 PM
And let me be very clear here.  I don't actually think we have become the Discordian equivalent of MTV.  This place still does Discordia.  I am just troubled by what I've been reading in this thread.  I mean, we always scoff at those who talk about being Really Real for Realness, but in this very thread we have regulars talking about this "norm" that exists.  Isn't that pretty much in the same vein as Really Real Discordianism?  It's too close for my taste.  Or, the answer is that this is just another internet forum that really isn't necessarily about Discordianism and that we'll have our tribal norms just like any other site.  

That's what I thought you meant, actually.  But it got me to thinking.  PD no longer has any purpose, except for a few certain individuals to let us all know just exactly how far below whale shit they consider us to be.  We don't DO anything, anymore, and the people that used to lead the charge in doing things now actively ridicule anyone who tries.

It was fun, while the illusion of the whole thing lasted, but now the vinyl has been peeled back, and it's just another FC clone.  That thought may be pleasing to some, but the very reason FC was funny was because of how dismally everyone there acted toward each other.

This isn't a community anymore, it's a madhouse.  Not the fun kind of madhouse, with everyone bouncing off the walls, but rather a collection of people with induced Asperger's Syndrome and pee-stained dentures.

But we must have wanted it to be that way, right?  Because we made it that way.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: LMNO on June 04, 2010, 07:48:51 PM
You have to admit, there are certain behaviors that would not get on well here.

A libertarian pagan social conservative would be extremely uncomfortable.

But the core principle remains true.  Anyone is able to post anything they want (with exceptions).  Anyone here is able to reply to that post in the manner they feel is appropriate (with exceptions).

Whatever "norm" that might exist is, for the most part, whatever the majority of responses happen to be.

This is not a perfect system, and has led to massive flame wars and multiple flounces, on all sides.



LMNO, it has become a completely dysfunctional system.  I mean, it was always dysfuctional, but it used to have advantages.

Discordianism - if there really is such a thing - is hard work, and this century should be our heyday.  But instead it's become a score-driven asshat fest in which five basic factions exist:

1.  You are beneath me.  I am too cool/smart/whatever for you.  Your attempts at humor are silly, and you should really post at my blog instead...or, alternatively, post here, and I will explain why you should sack up and try to be as G as I am.

2.  LOOK AT MY TITS!  HOLY SHIT!  YOU'RE ALL ASSHOLES, BUT CHECK OUT THESE HEADLIGHTS!  I AN KNOWN AND NOTED FOR THESE GODDAMN MAMMARIES.  WHITE KNIGHTS PLEASE TO APPLY AT STAGE DOOR! 

3.  These new people are great.  When they called us all names, and told us we were doin' it wrong, they probably didn't MEAN it.  Everyone I've known here for years, though, is an unredeemable shitneck.

4.  I like your post, but I'd like to argue the semantics of every word in it.  Whoops!  Did I derail it?  My bad.  Define "derail".

5.  Everyone else, getting ground into hamburger, and eventually finding other things to do.

Is this what we really wanted?  It must have been, or we wouldn't have done it.
Molon Lube

LMNO

There are those of us who don't usually participate, however, and continue to post as they feel.

Cramulus

Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 04, 2010, 07:38:23 PM
It means that we have to accept abusive trolls as equals (or, in Cram's opinion, our superiors). 

quit putting words in my mouth

am I not allowed to like Purple Eris?

do you really think that by saying I didn't mind her I am saying she is "superior" and I am acting counter to this site's "purpose"?


gimme a break


screw this shit     I'm the fuckin pope  :fnord:




the last yatto

Quote from: Rev. What's-His-Name? on June 04, 2010, 11:25:52 AM
And for the record, no one has yet to produce any evidence of PED using

the image i recall seeing was an old uniform hat,  (not sure if its still there)
which i believe had the eagle crest removed but she was still rocking that hat...
but lady gaga has one just like it.
Look, asshole:  Your 'incomprehensible' act, your word-salad, your pinealism...It BORES ME.  I've been incomprehensible for so long, I TEACH IT TO MBA CANDIDATES.  So if you simply MUST talk about your pineal gland or happy children dancing in the wildflowers, go talk to Roger, because he digs that kind of shit

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cramulus on June 04, 2010, 08:06:25 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 04, 2010, 07:38:23 PM
It means that we have to accept abusive trolls as equals (or, in Cram's opinion, our superiors). 

quit putting words in my mouth

am I not allowed to like Purple Eris?

Sure.  And since your criteria for liking someone seems to be that person's ability to shower non-stop abuse, misrepresentations, and the most hurtful comments possible onto people for two years, I figured I'd try to be your pal by doing those very things.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: GoddesS PurpleriS  "Καλλίστη" on June 08, 2008, 11:24:23 AM
My question is simply this : Why "most" of the discordians (as far as as ive seen) are fatasses?

Deliberate insult, with the intent of being as hurtful as possible to anyone here who is overweight.

Quote from: GoddesS PurpleriS  "Καλλίστη" on June 08, 2008, 11:24:23 AM
Another question : Why everybodys "mostly" fighting or replyin like fuckin 55year old virgins on the forums,instead of discussin or sharing different ideas..Discord is a beautiful thing and our lady wants us to be "perfect to ourselves and each other".  :roll:

Why bother reading GASM or Or Kill Me or TFYS?  Why not deliberately misrepresent things?

Quote from: GoddesS PurpleriS  "Καλλίστη" on June 08, 2008, 11:24:23 AM
Another : Whats up with this "real" discordians and "fake" discordians bull..

Didn't even read far enough to get the satire.  But that's okay, she's a good egg.  Right?

Quote from: GoddesS PurpleriS  "Καλλίστη" on June 08, 2008, 11:24:23 AM
Lady Discordia doesnt accept loosers anyway,and takes care of em douches good,no need to waste our precious energy goddess gave us to be creative and have fun ehh?

Speaks for Eris, sets criteria.  See immediately preceding quote for irony fun!

Quote from: GoddesS PurpleriS  "Καλλίστη" on June 08, 2008, 11:24:23 AM
Another one : How come the subgeniiii are soooo fuckin lame? What are they supposed to be?  :?

Deliberate insult.

But yeah, she's really just a sweet kid.  No, really.
Molon Lube

Bebek Sincap Ratatosk

Holy Shit! A Discordian that insults people and groups? You have got to be kidding me!!!!

- I don't see race. I just see cars going around in a circle.

"Back in my day, crazy meant something. Now everyone is crazy" - Charlie Manson