Indecision 08 Wingnut thread

[Iason Ouabache]

BTW, arguing with a McCain/Palin supporter about her ineptitude is pointless, as I've discovered over at PCF.  If they can't offer up anything meaningful to support her as a VP candidate, they'll just give you the "breath of fresh air" mantra.  So it's like they are perfectly content with electing Gomer Pyle as the next VP. 

There are actually people out there who are trying to defend her???  Why??  Even NRO has turned on her.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=#more

[Cain]

BTW, arguing with a McCain/Palin supporter about her ineptitude is pointless, as I've discovered over at PCF.  If they can't offer up anything meaningful to support her as a VP candidate, they'll just give you the "breath of fresh air" mantra.  So it's like they are perfectly content with electing Gomer Pyle as the next VP. 

There are actually people out there who are trying to defend her???  Why??  Even NRO has turned on her.

Really?  K-Lo hasn't:

As soon as I saw it on CBS earlier (I trust most of you have better things to do with your time!), I knew the new conventional wisdom would be something like "she bans books and doesn't read." And sure enough. The e-mails are coming in. Obviously the governor of Alaska reads. And what it looked liked to me is the governor of Alaska decided she wasn't going to play along with Couric. Whatever she answered would be scrutinized for the next 24 hours for what she included and left off. So instead she let Katie badger her a little.

And now the ticket is in yet a better position to run against the media.

Who knew a McCain ticket would ever be in a position to do such a thing?

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZmMzOGZiMDU3MDVjZmM4MzA2NzNmNTM4Y2ZlMTVkYjE=

[AFK]

BTW, arguing with a McCain/Palin supporter about her ineptitude is pointless, as I've discovered over at PCF.  If they can't offer up anything meaningful to support her as a VP candidate, they'll just give you the "breath of fresh air" mantra.  So it's like they are perfectly content with electing Gomer Pyle as the next VP. 

There are actually people out there who are trying to defend her???  Why??  Even NRO has turned on her.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=#more

Yep, here are a couple of examples:

http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112967
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112862

[Iason Ouabache]

BTW, arguing with a McCain/Palin supporter about her ineptitude is pointless, as I've discovered over at PCF.  If they can't offer up anything meaningful to support her as a VP candidate, they'll just give you the "breath of fresh air" mantra.  So it's like they are perfectly content with electing Gomer Pyle as the next VP. 

There are actually people out there who are trying to defend her???  Why??  Even NRO has turned on her.

Really?  K-Lo hasn't:

As soon as I saw it on CBS earlier (I trust most of you have better things to do with your time!), I knew the new conventional wisdom would be something like "she bans books and doesn't read." And sure enough. The e-mails are coming in. Obviously the governor of Alaska reads. And what it looked liked to me is the governor of Alaska decided she wasn't going to play along with Couric. Whatever she answered would be scrutinized for the next 24 hours for what she included and left off. So instead she let Katie badger her a little.

And now the ticket is in yet a better position to run against the media.

Who knew a McCain ticket would ever be in a position to do such a thing?

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZmMzOGZiMDU3MDVjZmM4MzA2NzNmNTM4Y2ZlMTVkYjE=

Yeah, but who listens to K-Lo anyways?

[Cain]

I'd like to say no-one, but she definitely wasn't made editor of NRO for her good looks or writing ability.

[Iason Ouabache]

BTW, arguing with a McCain/Palin supporter about her ineptitude is pointless, as I've discovered over at PCF.  If they can't offer up anything meaningful to support her as a VP candidate, they'll just give you the "breath of fresh air" mantra.  So it's like they are perfectly content with electing Gomer Pyle as the next VP. 

There are actually people out there who are trying to defend her???  Why??  Even NRO has turned on her.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=#more

Yep, here are a couple of examples:

http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112967
http://www.politicalcrossfire.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112862

That looks more like deflection than defending.  I didn't read all of the second thread though.

I'd like to say no-one, but she definitely wasn't made editor of NRO for her good looks or writing ability.

I don't want to imagine what kind of sexual favors she had to perform to get that job. It's giving me the heeby geebies.

[Jenne]

Not sure if this goes here, but my husband just sent this around.  He respects this guy's expertise vis a vis Afghanistan and Pakistan.  What he has to say about the McCain policies for that region is interesting, I think.

http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2008/10/01/mccain-afghanistan-pakistan-oped-cx_br_1002rubin.html

[the last yatto]

lol while waiting for the debate on msnbc someone actually got a McFAILin 2008 sign up for a good minute or two

[Jasper]

Nice.  I wonder if they're from the internet.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

BTW, arguing with a McCain/Palin supporter about her ineptitude is pointless, as I've discovered over at PCF.  If they can't offer up anything meaningful to support her as a VP candidate, they'll just give you the "breath of fresh air" mantra.  So it's like they are perfectly content with electing Gomer Pyle as the next VP. 

There are actually people out there who are trying to defend her???  Why??  Even NRO has turned on her.

Really?  K-Lo hasn't:

As soon as I saw it on CBS earlier (I trust most of you have better things to do with your time!), I knew the new conventional wisdom would be something like "she bans books and doesn't read." And sure enough. The e-mails are coming in. Obviously the governor of Alaska reads. And what it looked liked to me is the governor of Alaska decided she wasn't going to play along with Couric. Whatever she answered would be scrutinized for the next 24 hours for what she included and left off. So instead she let Katie badger her a little.

And now the ticket is in yet a better position to run against the media.

Who knew a McCain ticket would ever be in a position to do such a thing?

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZmMzOGZiMDU3MDVjZmM4MzA2NzNmNTM4Y2ZlMTVkYjE=

National Review?

I don't even KNOW you anymore, man.

[Cain]

NRO and LA Times are the only places I can read the hilarious writings of Jonah "Liberal Fascism" Goldberg.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

NRO and LA Times are the only places I can read the hilarious writings of Jonah "Liberal Fascism" Goldberg.

Ah.

[the last yatto]

redneck chain letter

When electing the next President,  "the only decision you have to make is who you want sitting in that seat in the White House when  - not if -  WHEN we get hit again and millions of America n lives are put at risk!"


This is from: "You ain't gonna like losing."
   President Bush did make a bad mistake in the war on terrorism.  But the mistake was not his decision to go to war in Iraq.  Bush's mistake came in his belief that this country is the same one his father fought for in WWII.    It is not.
  Back then, they had just come out of a vicious depression. The country was steeled by the hardship of that depression, but they still believed fervently in this country. They knew that the people had elected their leaders, so it was the  people's duty to back those leaders.


  Therefore, when the war broke out the people came together, rallied behind, and stuck with their leaders, whether they had voted for them or not or whether the war was going badly or not. And war was just as distasteful and the anguish just as great then as it is today. Often there were more casualties in one day in WWII than we have had in the entire Iraq war.  But that did not matter.  The people stuck with the President because it was their patriotic duty. Americans put aside their differences in WWII and worked together to win that war.

Everyone from every strata of society, from young to old pitched in. Small children pulled little wagons around to gather scrap metal for the war effort. Grade school students saved their pennies to buy stamps for war bonds to help   the effort.

Men who were too old or medically 4F lied about their age or condition trying their best to join the military.
Women doubled their work to keep things going at home.  Harsh rationing of everything from gasoline to soap, to butter was imposed, yet there was very  little complaining.

You never heard prominent people on the radio belittling the President.
Interestingly enough in those days there were no fat cat actors and entertainers who ran off to visit and fawn over dictators of hostile countries and complain  to them about our President. Instead, they made upbeat films and entertained our  troops to help the troops' morale.  And a bunch even enlisted.

And imagine this: Teachers in schools actually started the day off with a Pledge  of Allegiance, and with prayers for our country and our troops!

Back then, no newspaper would have dared point out certain weak spots in our cities where bombs could be set off to cause the maximum damage. No newspaper would have dared complain about what we were doing to catch spies.  A newspaper would have been laughed out of existence if it had complained that German or Japanese soldiers were being 'tortured' by being forced to wear women's underwear, or subjected to interrogation by a woman, or being scared by a dog or did not have air conditioning.

There were a lot of things different back then. We were not subjected to a constant bombardment of pornography, perversion and promiscuity in movies or on radio.  We did not have legions of crack heads, dope pushers and armed gangs roaming our streets.

No, President Bush did not make a mistake in his handling of terrorism. He made the mistake of believing that we still had the courage and fortitude of our fathers. He believed that this was still the country that our fathers fought so dearly to preserve.

It is not the same country. It is now a cross between Sodom and Gomorra and the land of Oz.  We did unite for a short while after 9/11, but our attitude changed when we found out that defending our country would require some sacrifices.

We are in great danger. The terrorists are fanatic Muslims.  They believe that it is okay, even their duty, to kill anyone who will not convert to Islam.  It has been estimated that about one third or over three hundred million Muslims are sympathetic to the terrorists cause. . . Hitler and Tojo combined did not have nearly that many potential recruits.  So... We either win it - or lose it - and you ain't gonna like losing.

America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall, or watching the movie stars.
(Remember Obama said in his book "Audacity of Hope", 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction'.....what better   place for the Muslins to control our country, than in the office of the President of USA. If you ever forwarded an e-mail, now's the time to do it!)
PLEASE PRAY FOR OUR MILITARY, AND ASK OUR GOD/LORD TO TAKE CARE OF THIS ELECTION!!

[Cain]

Of course, in WWII many prominent Republicans actually conspired to stab the President in the back (the America First Committee, the German-American Bund, the Silver Shirts etc) and align themselves with Nazi Germany, so this is complete and utter rot.

Its actually really interesting, a couple of good books came out of that fun.  John Roy Carlson's Undercover: My Four Years in the Nazi Underworld of America is well worth reading.

[Sir Squid Diddimus]

What I find funny is that the McCain campaign has been chiming on about how Obama doesn't have enough foreign policy experience blah blah cause "he's never even been over there" and what have you yet all their new new campaigning is trying to tie him to terrorists.

Obama... terrorists.

What? The shit just doesn't make any damn sense. Yet there are people out there dumb enough to fall for the shit.

Ug. I'm just sick of it all now.
The least they could do is try to be honest. Or at least twist the truth into your favor. But outright lying?

(unless he actually is tied to terrorists somehow, if so please tell me)