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Discourse 24: Monsters

Started by Trollax, March 22, 2004, 04:46:46 AM

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Trollax

Quote from: fullmoonerIf I were the killing kind......You'd think with all the training I had of dealing with the maliciousness of other people I would not be taking them so damnedably.

Just count up the number of ways you can kill thim with your bare hands... then think about the fragility of life and how easy it is to end it. Then think about that person pleading and begging for their life, and how similar you would be in the same situation. Then the reasons why seem trivial. It's helped me not perform massacres on many occasions. The jail time and the label kind of cancels out the benefits of having one-less jerk in the world.

fullmooner

Exactly why I am not the killing kind. too many repercussions compared to simply walking away.

Trollax

Quote from: fullmoonerExactly why I am not the killing kind. too many repercussions compared to simply walking away.

Then why beat yourself up about being the strong one?

fullmooner

::sniffles:: Cause I wanna hurt them for being mean. I walk away and some stupid person walks up and continues telling me what I walked away fromm hearing in the first place. Ergo, by walking away, I now have TWO people I wanna smash until bleeding.

Trollax

Quote from: fullmooner::sniffles:: Cause I wanna hurt them for being mean. I walk away and some stupid person walks up and continues telling me what I walked away fromm hearing in the first place. Ergo, by walking away, I now have TWO people I wanna smash until bleeding.

Sometimes I feel like giving wouldn't be so bad myself.

although I haven't been arrested yet so you can guess which way I voted...

Guido Finucci

Quote from: fullmoonerThen things truly ARE out of my hands then? No matter how hard I try? and is that my monster?

Sorry for jumping in on this late.

You are drawing a distinction between the ego (your 'I') and the monster. Things aren't out of your hands 'cause you and the monster aren't seperate entities. Or to put it another way, when the monster is making your decisions for you, it is still making your decisions, decisions that you could have made differently. Even thinking of it as 'not you' in some way can kinda be dangerous - after all you stil haev to accept responisibility for all of your choices whether you made them with the best or worst of intentions.

fullmooner

Read the rest of this conversation and see WHY I worry about those repercussions and blame and accountability and uncontrol. This gets more interesting.

Guido Finucci

Quote from: fullmooner::sniffles:: Cause I wanna hurt them for being mean. I walk away and some stupid person walks up and continues telling me what I walked away fromm hearing in the first place. Ergo, by walking away, I now have TWO people I wanna smash until bleeding.

Walking away is a metaphor. Actually walking until there is physical distance between you often helps but 'walking away' is about letting go of the emotions that were locking you into a situation. If someone else continues talking about it and you get twisted straight back into all the crap, I would usggest to you that you have yet to let go of the original stuff...

... just walk away.   :)

fullmooner

Kinda hard to walk when others throw marbles at your feet.

Guido Finucci

Then skate (it's faster anyway).

Or just to flee the analogy before it gets to arbitrary - fight fire with marshmallows (or pie).