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Started by Lupernikes_shadowbark, September 01, 2008, 10:45:52 AM

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Roo

Quote from: East Coast Hustle on September 08, 2008, 08:02:23 PM
Quote from: Roo on September 08, 2008, 04:49:51 PM

Quote from: GA on September 08, 2008, 02:07:50 PM
Quote from: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 08, 2008, 01:34:13 PM
If you can imagine, perhaps you don't have to be wrong, perhaps you subconciously give shape to some energy or suchlike?

Think about that sentence for a second.  Are you really saying that by believing in something, mystic energies will contort themselves to humor you?  That simply by imagining things they become real?
Wouldn't that be a kicker? Suppose for a second that were true. Think about all the wars, poverty, abuses of power and people, all the things that are wrong with the world...what if we make them real by believing they are? What if we could change those things simply by imagining something else?

It's a fucked up hypothesis at this point. We have no way to prove it even if it were true. And yet, some of my experiences suggest that it might be. Not in the sense of mystic energies contorting themselves to humor me, but in the sense of being part of those mystical energies, and having the ability to shape and manipulate them through thought and belief. 

A lot of people I've discussed the idea with tend to throw in "well, what about the victims?" What about the people who get raped, or murdered, or hit by some natural disaster? Are you saying it's their fault? That they thought or believed what happened to them into existence?". I can't say no without shooting down the whole hypothesis, and I can't say yes without some people taking it as blaming the victims. So I'll take the chance on people thinking I'm blaming the victims, and say that each of us is ultimately responsible for our lives. We are responsible for our thoughts and beliefs, and have the power to change those as we wish. We can accept whatever we were taught, and go through life believing without understanding, or we can question what we were taught, and decide whether or not to keep those beliefs. In essence, there are no victims, only people experiencing life in all its complexity. There is no blame, only choices and consequences.

didn't you get verbally gang-raped last time you brought up this idiotic idea of yours?

and didn't you deserve it?
It's true, the reactions around here tended to be fairly nasty. Unfortunately, I've been frequenting too many New Age forums, where such ideas are commonplace, and apparently forgot where I was.  :oops:

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 08, 2008, 07:50:12 PM
please don't put words into my mouth, thank you...I didn't say that

so you and some others are obviously very up on scientific thought and theory and I am not.  This makes me wrong in your opinion which is fine.  Why not accept that I can have another opinion and leave it there?

no, this makes you wrong in fact, not in anyone's opinion.

we can accept that you have another opinion which you know to be wrong and ignorantly defend anyway, you can accept that many of us enjoy poking people like you with sticks.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Lupernikes_shadowbark

sad, that's all I can say....I really am leaving it there now

East Coast Hustle

sad that you would willingly ignore facts in favor of clinging to an ill-informed opinion?

I agree.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

Lupernikes_shadowbark

yes, yes whatever makes you happy

Kai

Quote from: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 09, 2008, 12:02:25 AM
yes, yes whatever makes you happy

Actually, he'd be more happy if you'd continue digging yourself a hole.
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Lupernikes_shadowbark

which is why i won't, I've got better things to do with my life than give sad little boys a hard on

Chairman Risus

Quote from: Lupernikes_shadowbark on September 09, 2008, 12:14:37 AM
which is why i won't, I've got better things to do with my life than give sad little boys a hard on
:sadbanana:
:cn:

Golden Applesauce

And....

:lulz: HE JUST KEEPS POSTING!  :lulz:

The one sure sign of an internet loser, even more than bragging about IRL toughness, penis size, or how much you really don't care (no, really! I don't give a shit!) is when a person repeatedly recognizes that being in a discussion is doing him no go, swears he'll leave and never come back (multiple times) ...

... and sticks around.
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A: We have hired a number of FORMER 8th graders.

East Coast Hustle

that and having "wolf" anywhere in your username.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

BADGE OF HONOR

I think the next time I need to make a troll account I will use a wolf name.
The Jerk On Bike rolled his eyes and tossed the waffle back over his shoulder--before it struck the ground, a stout, disconcertingly monkey-like dog sprang into the air and snatched it, and began to masticate it--literally--for the sound it made was like a homonculus squatting on the floor muttering "masticate masticate masticate".

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