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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #180 on: September 30, 2008, 06:19:03 pm »
i feel that it's a way of living rather than a philosophy.  the 'things are true in some sense, false in some sense...' bit really speaks to me.  i personally don't think discordianism can be philosophised because it's essence is subjective.  cabals it seems, are where like minded discordians can thrive for a mutal goal or environment but it's not really a set way.  the 'really REAL discordians' can have their place...at least its a step further toward TFY,S.  i think what gives Discordianism it's real value is it's ability to give embellishment to other ideas.  the whole of PD has a whole slew of various backgrounds and ideas.  Discordia, i think, is kind of an upgrade to those ideas.  sort of like ontological or epistemological performance enhancers.  :fap:

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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #181 on: September 30, 2008, 09:09:22 pm »
I dislike the "Discordia is anything and undefinable" meme. Because at the end of the day, we DO have a lot of stuff in common. And when we try to explain Discordia to others, there are things that we say and things we do not say.

there certainly are actions and mindsets we can say are markedly "un-Discordian"


I mean, Discordia is vague, and we've got this loose Catma instead of Dogma thing, but aren't there times when you can say "you're doing it wrong" and be correct?

There's always this dodgey "Is this satire?" angle you can throw out, which justifies a lot of questionable stuff. But if someone asked me if Dick Cheney or Mitt Romney are good Discordians, I'd have to say No, those people aren't Discordians at all.


Is it "Un-Discordian" of me to try to define it this way?
It's fun  to play order games, and it's fun to play chaos games.   The Dick Cheneys and Mitt Romneys are trapped by Aneristic Delusions.  Your post comes across to me like you are trapped in Eristic Delusions.  As if you love the Eristic mental trap you are in, kinda like other people love the Aneristic traps they are in.  If you like and enjoy your trap, that's kool.

I'd rather switch up traps every now and then.  Order games are fun.  Disorder Games are fun.  Why not play both?  Either one can lead to creative solutions to problems or be beneficial in some situations.

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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #182 on: September 30, 2008, 09:35:24 pm »
Cram can be a very orderly motherfucker.  Just saying.

He put a book together, after all; one doesn't do that by tossing a pencil at a notebook and hoping for the best.
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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #183 on: September 30, 2008, 09:35:45 pm »
forget Discordia, whats this Concordia thing about
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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #184 on: October 01, 2008, 12:18:40 am »
I dislike the "Discordia is anything and undefinable" meme. Because at the end of the day, we DO have a lot of stuff in common. And when we try to explain Discordia to others, there are things that we say and things we do not say.

there certainly are actions and mindsets we can say are markedly "un-Discordian"


I mean, Discordia is vague, and we've got this loose Catma instead of Dogma thing, but aren't there times when you can say "you're doing it wrong" and be correct?

There's always this dodgey "Is this satire?" angle you can throw out, which justifies a lot of questionable stuff. But if someone asked me if Dick Cheney or Mitt Romney are good Discordians, I'd have to say No, those people aren't Discordians at all.


Is it "Un-Discordian" of me to try to define it this way?
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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #185 on: October 01, 2008, 01:13:02 am »
Cram can be a very orderly motherfucker.  Just saying.

He put a book together, after all; one doesn't do that by tossing a pencil at a notebook and hoping for the best.

No, you have to put the pencil and the notebook in a box with a monkey and a Geiger counter. Once the Geiger Counter clicks, the monkey will be simultaneously William Shakespeare and Carrot Top until you open the box, and then it will be a cat.

That's what Wikipedia says, anyway.
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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #186 on: October 01, 2008, 03:09:01 pm »
forget Discordia, whats this Concordia thing about

What would you like to know?
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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #187 on: October 01, 2008, 06:22:24 pm »
I dislike the "Discordia is anything and undefinable" meme. Because at the end of the day, we DO have a lot of stuff in common. And when we try to explain Discordia to others, there are things that we say and things we do not say.

there certainly are actions and mindsets we can say are markedly "un-Discordian"


I mean, Discordia is vague, and we've got this loose Catma instead of Dogma thing, but aren't there times when you can say "you're doing it wrong" and be correct?

There's always this dodgey "Is this satire?" angle you can throw out, which justifies a lot of questionable stuff. But if someone asked me if Dick Cheney or Mitt Romney are good Discordians, I'd have to say No, those people aren't Discordians at all.


Is it "Un-Discordian" of me to try to define it this way?

I suppose it depends on the angle. After all, "every man, woman and child is a Discordian." All of us bring chaos and order to the world around us, we all order things and disorder things. Does the Curse of Greyface make you un-discordian, or does it simply blind the poor hunchbrain to their Discordian nature? Perhaps, some humans find a way to put the curse into remission. Did we become Discordian, or did we recoginize our discordian nature?

Eris uses us all as tools and not many fit that description better than Bush and Cheney. Couple of fuckin' tools. However, its not just that they're tools that I call them Discordian. For they are human and no animal is more of a multi-faced, manipulative, mean spirited, half-mad trickster than a human.

In some sense. ;-)

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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #188 on: October 01, 2008, 06:25:45 pm »
Did we become Discordian, or did we recoginize our discordian nature?


That's an interesting idea.
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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #189 on: October 01, 2008, 06:57:17 pm »
Did we become Discordian, or did we recoginize our discordian nature?


That's an interesting idea.

I thought so too... Sjaantze and I were discussing this thread and the term just fell out somewhere in the discussion.
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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #190 on: October 01, 2008, 07:02:29 pm »
heh, i've bitched before about "empaths" being an egotistical description for someone who is in touch with their sensitive nature...why would a discordian be any different.

course, it IS more fun that way

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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #191 on: October 01, 2008, 09:29:49 pm »
Empaths suck.  True story.

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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #192 on: October 01, 2008, 10:27:04 pm »
forget Discordia, whats this Concordia thing about

What would you like to know?

I like the concept, think it could be expanded on the POEE DISORGANIZATIONAL MATRIX
there was often a joke that REALLY real discordians werent calling themselfs that anymore
but were possing as Christans so if God can have his devil with tales,
why not us. Mob up both sides of our coin for no other purpose cause we can
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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #193 on: October 02, 2008, 01:12:00 am »
heh, i've bitched before about "empaths" being an egotistical description for someone who is in touch with their sensitive nature...why would a discordian be any different.

course, it IS more fun that way

Empaths.

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Re: Why is Discordia more relevant than ever in the year 2008?
« Reply #194 on: October 02, 2008, 01:12:55 am »
Empaths suck.  True story.

So do Pixies, Santa Claus, and HIMEOBS.
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