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Started by Janvier, September 08, 2008, 05:31:05 AM

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Rumckle

Quote from: Janvier on September 11, 2008, 04:32:36 AM
Seriously!
Answer me!
Or Kill Me

Is that you getting pissed off?


Quote from: Janvier on September 11, 2008, 06:35:16 AM
Quote from: Rumckle on September 11, 2008, 06:01:12 AM
Quote from: Janvier on September 11, 2008, 04:32:36 AM
Or Hug Me

Quote from: Rumckle on September 11, 2008, 04:22:51 AM
Be careful what you wish for...

Actually the reason I didn't answer you before is I was busy doing interesting more important stuff (he says as he posts on PD.com)

Seriously I don't care, to me you are just slightly annoying, but interesting in a way. Whatever, I'm not in the mood to care
Aww... getting scared? Of a newbie like me?

Fine, hugs for Janvier

Anyway, if I was scared of anything it was failing physics,
It's not trolling, it's just satire.

Janvier

Quote from: Rumckle on September 11, 2008, 06:40:05 AM
Quote from: Janvier on September 11, 2008, 04:32:36 AM
Seriously!
Answer me!
Or Kill Me

Is that you getting pissed off?


Quote from: Janvier on September 11, 2008, 06:35:16 AM
Quote from: Rumckle on September 11, 2008, 06:01:12 AM
Quote from: Janvier on September 11, 2008, 04:32:36 AM
Or Hug Me

Quote from: Rumckle on September 11, 2008, 04:22:51 AM
Be careful what you wish for...

Actually the reason I didn't answer you before is I was busy doing interesting more important stuff (he says as he posts on PD.com)

Seriously I don't care, to me you are just slightly annoying, but interesting in a way. Whatever, I'm not in the mood to care
Aww... getting scared? Of a newbie like me?

Fine, hugs for Janvier

Anyway, if I was scared of anything it was failing physics,

Naw, not pissed. Just having a little fun. Physics don't scare me, failing it even less. Hawking is hilarious if you figure out his secret.

Rumckle

It's not trolling, it's just satire.

Janvier

#108
Quote from: Rumckle on September 11, 2008, 06:48:50 AM
Physics is Phun
I bet it is. But the Penrose-Hawking theorem is just bullshit.
In fact, it is so hilariously wrong that I promote Stephen Hawking to saint status.

Rumckle

A lot of physics is just bullshit, but I do agree, Hawking is overrated as a physicist in the general community
It's not trolling, it's just satire.

Janvier

Quote from: Rumckle on September 11, 2008, 06:54:02 AM
A lot of physics is just bullshit, but I do agree, Hawking is overrated as a physicist in the general community
Let me ask you this: If quantum mechanics governs the smallest universes, why does it convince the most people?

Rumckle

I doesn't the most people don't know what quantum mechanics is.

If your talking about why it is scientifically popular, well because something needs to be researched to keep physicists in jobs, and a lot of other stuff is already known. Plus it has potential to make money for people, that's the reason most things happen.
It's not trolling, it's just satire.

Janvier

Quote from: Rumckle on September 11, 2008, 07:04:44 AM
I doesn't the most people don't know what quantum mechanics is.

If your talking about why it is scientifically popular, well because something needs to be researched to keep physicists in jobs, and a lot of other stuff is already known. Plus it has potential to make money for people, that's the reason most things happen.
So basically they are collaboratively making shit up to deceive the docile masses? Wow, great way to scrape out a living. So fucking dignified.

Janvier

Sophism can mean two very different things: In the modern definition, a sophism is a confusing or illogical argument used for deceiving someone. In Ancient Greece, the sophists were a group of teachers of philosophy and rhetoric.

But are they really so different?
Are not the deceivers the teachers?

LMNO

Quote from: Janvier on September 11, 2008, 07:26:26 AM
Quote from: Rumckle on September 11, 2008, 07:04:44 AM
I doesn't the most people don't know what quantum mechanics is.

If your talking about why it is scientifically popular, well because something needs to be researched to keep physicists in jobs, and a lot of other stuff is already known. Plus it has potential to make money for people, that's the reason most things happen.
So basically they are collaboratively making shit up to deceive the docile masses? Wow, great way to scrape out a living. So fucking dignified.


Ok, you want to know why quantum mechanics is popular?

Because it works.  Not only on paper, where it solves a greater amount of problems than other theories, but because when you use it to predict results in an experimental setting, they are right more often than they are wrong.

So the standard model of quanum physics is used most often because:
A)  The math works.
B)  It accurately predicts physical phenomena.

So, now I suppose you have a model for particle behavior that is superior to quantum mechanics, yes?

East Coast Hustle

NO!

THEY ARE USING QUANTUM PHYSICS TO DECEIVE THE MASSES AND WE WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH OF ANYTHING UNTIL WE LEARN TO UNDERSTAND JANVIER AND HIS AMAZING INSIGHTS ON THE NATURE OF THE UNIVERSE.

WHICH HE CANNOT BE BOTHERED TO CLEARLY EXPLAIN.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

LMNO

If it's string theory, I am laughing.

Like this --->   :lol: :kingmeh:

Rumckle

Quote from: LMNO on September 11, 2008, 12:52:44 PM
If it's string theory, I am laughing.

Like this --->   :lol: :kingmeh:

String Theory is just made by all those physicists who want to be guitar stars  :D
It's not trolling, it's just satire.

Janvier

Quote from: LMNO on September 11, 2008, 12:40:36 PM
Quote from: Janvier on September 11, 2008, 07:26:26 AM
Quote from: Rumckle on September 11, 2008, 07:04:44 AM
I doesn't the most people don't know what quantum mechanics is.

If your talking about why it is scientifically popular, well because something needs to be researched to keep physicists in jobs, and a lot of other stuff is already known. Plus it has potential to make money for people, that's the reason most things happen.
So basically they are collaboratively making shit up to deceive the docile masses? Wow, great way to scrape out a living. So fucking dignified.


Ok, you want to know why quantum mechanics is popular?

Because it works.  Not only on paper, where it solves a greater amount of problems than other theories, but because when you use it to predict results in an experimental setting, they are right more often than they are wrong.

So the standard model of quantum physics is used most often because:
A)  The math works.
B)  It accurately predicts physical phenomena.

So, now I suppose you have a model for particle behavior that is superior to quantum mechanics, yes?
Obviously it's memetics.
Memes > rules
memes evolve so they can transcend rules. Rules are rigid and dependent on old memes.
This is where the message goes.
This is where the Ballad of Marshall McLuhan is sung.

5 layers. Seems appropriate for Discordia. Think it's enough?

LMNO

Quote from: Janvier on September 11, 2008, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: LMNO on September 11, 2008, 12:40:36 PM
Quote from: Janvier on September 11, 2008, 07:26:26 AM
Quote from: Rumckle on September 11, 2008, 07:04:44 AM
I doesn't the most people don't know what quantum mechanics is.

If your talking about why it is scientifically popular, well because something needs to be researched to keep physicists in jobs, and a lot of other stuff is already known. Plus it has potential to make money for people, that's the reason most things happen.
So basically they are collaboratively making shit up to deceive the docile masses? Wow, great way to scrape out a living. So fucking dignified.


Ok, you want to know why quantum mechanics is popular?

Because it works.  Not only on paper, where it solves a greater amount of problems than other theories, but because when you use it to predict results in an experimental setting, they are right more often than they are wrong.

So the standard model of quantum physics is used most often because:
A)  The math works.
B)  It accurately predicts physical phenomena.

So, now I suppose you have a model for particle behavior that is superior to quantum mechanics, yes?
Obviously it's memetics.
Memes > rules
memes evolve so they can transcend rules. Rules are rigid and dependent on old memes.
This is where the message goes.
This is where the Ballad of Marshall McLuhan is sung.

5 layers. Seems appropriate for Discordia. Think it's enough?

Really?  That's really where you're going with this?


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It sounds to me as if you're saying that the meme "2+2=5" is somehow more accurate than the equation "2+2=4".

Please explain how memetics can explain the path of a baseball being thrown better than arithmetic.